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ailsagirl

(22,842 posts)
18. Isn't it strange how that happens?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:55 AM
Nov 2012

It's like watching the Zapruder film and wishing somehow it would end differently.

I guess that happens when the mind cannot accept the reality.

And how different things would have been had President Kennedy been able to at least finish even one term.

I Saw "Lincoln" Today [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 OP
How realistic were the vampires? jenw2 Nov 2012 #1
That's A Moronic Theme/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #2
Really... besides, they were zombies jberryhill Nov 2012 #52
Maybe There Will Be A Sequel, Franklin Roosevelt, Ghost Buster/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #57
Frankenstein Roosevelt? cui bono Nov 2012 #81
Franklinstein. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #109
Of course! How did I miss that??? cui bono Nov 2012 #121
Wrong movie, but thanks for asking. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #3
LOL! He was making Funny boingboinh Nov 2012 #16
lol, great post. Ztolkins Nov 2012 #14
Lucky you! hedda_foil Nov 2012 #4
I saw it today, too. Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #5
I saw the producer and production designer talk about the film today. Kablooie Nov 2012 #21
I'd love to hear about what they said.That film was beautifully designed. The set decoration CTyankee Dec 2012 #135
Wife and I tried to see it at the Landmark yesterday. All remaining shows were sold out when coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #36
Keep trying. It's really worth it. Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #53
I hope that you get an opportunity to visit the Lincoln museum murielm99 Nov 2012 #6
yeah InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #7
Yes, he was a man of his time. Maplegrass Nov 2012 #100
You're basing your view of Lincoln on a MOVIE? WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #8
He was a pragmatist. Aristus Nov 2012 #11
The Union absolutely Had To hold. alphafemale Nov 2012 #25
Predicting history is tricky - what if the Civil War prolonged the suffering of Southern blacks ??? LVZ Nov 2012 #89
Yes, you're right. It's tricky, and no one knows what the right choice is. Maplegrass Nov 2012 #101
You really have not read the OP, have you? intaglio Nov 2012 #108
A few disagreements. ieoeja Dec 2012 #141
I believe the poster specifically pointed out . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #19
"I know now that while certain ideals are timeless" WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #20
That Movie You're Trashing..... Paladin Nov 2012 #24
Your threshold for amazement . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #31
Maybe The Movie Will Inspire People To Learn About The Real Lincoln DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #44
I'm curious where American kids are supposed to be getting all of this in-depth information... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #34
Storytelling has been used to teach history since, like, *forever*. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #51
The movie was extremely well researched. Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #56
This film doesn't make a lot up. Kablooie Nov 2012 #22
It Didn't Think Me Thirty Five Years From The First Time I Studied Lincoln To Know His Views On Race DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #27
Lincoln was smart. lalalu Nov 2012 #29
LOL - I think you win the award for Understatement of the Millennium with coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #38
Made Me Want To Listen To A Certain Song DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #40
Oh so true. lalalu Nov 2012 #42
Sherman Is The First "Modern" General To Employ The "Total War" Concept/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #48
He was one bad dude. lalalu Nov 2012 #49
As Long As You Weren't In His Path DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #50
Sherman Was Unlike Grant Who Hated Slavery DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #39
Lyndon Johnson's greatness was tarnished by Vietnam. lalalu Nov 2012 #46
Johnson was a bigger-than-life Texan with a bad attitude Maplegrass Nov 2012 #102
Grant's main problem was that he was too trusting Wraith20878 Nov 2012 #78
Great points about Grant. lalalu Nov 2012 #111
It was his fatal flaw Wraith20878 Nov 2012 #122
If Sherman had thought it was primarily a issue of Slavery whistler162 Nov 2012 #96
Thanks for the information. lalalu Nov 2012 #97
But Grant Was A True Believer DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #116
" ...his concern was the Union, not slavery. Success at any cost." morningfog Nov 2012 #35
The movie is based on Doris Kearns Goodwin's biography\history, btw. Lincoln's coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #37
Gore Vidal lalalu Nov 2012 #47
Goodwin's book is Obama's favorite book on Lincoln. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #110
A lot of movies are based on books WeekendWarrior Dec 2012 #138
So tell us where we can see him in person & ask him his views ... Myrina Nov 2012 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #126
the movie was based on Doris Kearns Goodwin's acclaimed book "Team of Rivals" so it has CTyankee Dec 2012 #136
And you're assuming WeekendWarrior Dec 2012 #137
Oh, I wasn't talking about all of Hollywood.Nor all of picture making. CTyankee Dec 2012 #140
Dying to see it!6? cilla4progress Nov 2012 #9
When I read "Team of Rivals" I cried my eyes out at the end. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #10
Isn't it strange how that happens? ailsagirl Nov 2012 #18
But now he belongs to the ages Wraith20878 Nov 2012 #79
I can't wait to see that film demmis19566ie Nov 2012 #12
I can't wait to see it ReRe Nov 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Nov 2012 #15
Greatly looking forward to seeing it. silverweb Nov 2012 #17
The Fiery Trial NoPasaran Nov 2012 #23
I expect I'll watch it, if nothing else for Tony Kushner Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #26
Thanks for that warning. MuseRider Nov 2012 #30
the score was rather understated.... dhill926 Dec 2012 #130
As a Daniel Day Lewis fan lalalu Nov 2012 #28
Looking forward to seeing it Progressive dog Nov 2012 #32
I notice they flooded election night with "Lincoln" ads Patiod Nov 2012 #33
I Think Spielberg Released It After The Election Because He Didn't Want To Be Seen DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #41
Of course, interestingly at that point in time Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #55
Lincoln Republicans do not exist anymore... and-justice-for-all Nov 2012 #43
Lincoln Is In The Pantheon Of Great Presidents DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #45
Lincoln would get teabagged right out of the party today 47of74 Dec 2012 #124
My dining table was bequeathed to my grandfather and grandmother by the granddaughter kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #54
I have trouble thinking of Lincoln as a hero Polldancer2012 Nov 2012 #59
"...of blood drawn with the lash, shall be repaid by another drawn by the sword." DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #60
was any form of negotiation attempted? Polldancer2012 Nov 2012 #61
Yeah ,But The South Wanted To Keep Their Slaves DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #62
thats not quite correct... Polldancer2012 Nov 2012 #64
It was certainly an ugly war. Maplegrass Nov 2012 #103
Exactly/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #115
I think you just answered your own question Hippo_Tron Nov 2012 #73
The Way I See It DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #74
You're kidding, right?! obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #83
I believe there was more involved with the civil war Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #63
of course Polldancer2012 Nov 2012 #65
No It Was Primarily Fought Because Traitorous Southerners Seceded./nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #68
For The Traitorous Southerners It Was A War To Save Slavery DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #70
In the lower south, there was absolutely no other way whatsoever Hippo_Tron Nov 2012 #67
Exactly DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #69
It wasn't really removed... Hippo_Tron Nov 2012 #71
As You Know That Was Because Of The Disputed Election Of 1876 DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #72
Reconstruction was basically done before the 1876 election Hippo_Tron Nov 2012 #75
PREACH! abetterkid Nov 2012 #114
And now the most ridiculous among them are threatening to secede again... Maplegrass Nov 2012 #104
NC was dragged in kicking and screaming obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #84
No. obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #82
This one's the one with Daniel Day Lewis as Lincoln? backscatter712 Nov 2012 #66
I read Team of Rivals and am excited to see the movie davidpdx Nov 2012 #76
Did the movie talk about the Greenback dollar? UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #77
It wasn't the Union side, it was teh United States government obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #85
I put Union Side in parentheses to differentiate it from confederate states UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #88
Agreed, fighting a central bank had a great deal to do with it. Maplegrass Nov 2012 #105
Really looking forward to this movie Wraith20878 Nov 2012 #80
Lincoln is the Best Film I've seen in Decades... Iggy Dec 2012 #149
600,000 Americans dead and 1 million amputations with no medication Ter Nov 2012 #86
If You Were Black And Your Children Were Sold Like Animals From The Same Litter DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #87
History does not work like that ... LVZ Nov 2012 #90
While All This Is Occurring Blacks Folks Are Continued To Be Treated Like Chattel DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #92
in the short term, yes, in the longer term, Southern blacks may have suffered more ... n/t LVZ Nov 2012 #93
They Suffered More Because Reconstruction Ended Too Soon. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #94
very likely true ... n/t LVZ Nov 2012 #95
That's true.. even in blue Virginia I see Confederate flags frequently. Maplegrass Nov 2012 #107
AMEN! abetterkid Nov 2012 #113
Yeah, we let them up a little too easy 47of74 Dec 2012 #125
Not worth 600,000 dead and 1 million amputations with hand saws Ter Nov 2012 #98
So Don't See The Fucking Movie. (nt) Paladin Nov 2012 #91
Is it Lincoln's fault effective anesthesia and penicillin did not yet exist? (n/t) Maplegrass Nov 2012 #106
Is It Lincoln's Fault That The South Seceded From The Union Because They Wanted To Own Other Folks? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #117
Or fired on FEDERAL TROOPS because they were pissed Lincoln was elected? obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #119
He was a truly great man. Maplegrass Nov 2012 #99
I really can't wait to see Lincoln but... abetterkid Nov 2012 #112
Doesn't The Scholarship Suggest Lincoln Abandoned His Repatriation Plans Prior To His Assassination? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #118
yes obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #120
He was a man with flaws and had complex views on many subjects. Kablooie Dec 2012 #134
I saw it today 47of74 Dec 2012 #123
Why didn't the Emancipation Declaration include outlawing slavery in the North? nt Bonobo Dec 2012 #127
One of the sole reasons for the Proclamation Third Doctor Dec 2012 #128
enjoyed it greatly, and can't wait..... dhill926 Dec 2012 #129
I "think" he was the one who was beaten so badly by a southernor in the House of Representatives CTyankee Dec 2012 #132
interesting..... dhill926 Dec 2012 #133
No, that was his ally Charles Sumner Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #144
Thanks. I was really uncertain about this one. Since Stevens was an abolitionist and it looked CTyankee Dec 2012 #145
They didn't really portray Sumner as injured in the film Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #146
I actually noticed that club foot in the film (toward the end). CTyankee Dec 2012 #147
Just an aside, Sugarcoated Dec 2012 #148
I saw it last night. Beacool Dec 2012 #150
There Was An Argument How About Many Lives Needed To Be Sacrificed To Free The Slaves DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2012 #131
Thanks for the post. Beacool Dec 2012 #139
Saw it last night. BlueDemKev Dec 2012 #142
Saw it this past sunday. Great movie. Impeachable offense for Lincoln? Filibuster Harry Dec 2012 #143
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