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nikto

(3,284 posts)
78. Even a huge, landslide loss by Trump will not be the end of the danger, by a long-shot
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:32 PM
Aug 2016

The real problem for America, isn't Trump.

Can you guess what it is?

It is the tens of millions of people who passionately support him.
They, or their families, in millions of cases, have been hurt by an economy that favors
investors, bankers and corporations. In addition, these folks' emotions and perceptions have been
twisted like pretzels by the racist-tinged, highly-manipulative, NON-STOP avalanche of
venal, dishonest BS that is FoxNooz, vicious hate-radio talk-show hosts, and the hideous RW media
in general.

In addition, the racist fringe of America has joined in, with an ugly enthusiasm for attacking civil rights.
Put 'em all together, and you've got the "Trumpers".

The real Frankenstein's Monster is this group of many millions of enraged, and very confused and hateful Americans
who will only be frustrated further by Trump's defeat. They are not going anywhere.
They will, if history is to be any lesson for us, choose more and more extreme representatives to insert their hopes, fears and hatreds into, in an escalating pattern, possibly culminating in a future candidate far worse than Trump.

A solid Progressive agenda put forth by the Democratic Party, strongly and persistently, that truly helps the US middle class and working class to recover some sense of economic security,
earning power and HOPE
, would go a considerable way towards eroding and moderating this angry sub-group,
and reducing both their numbers and their intensity.

But if both parties continue their intensely pro-corporate/pro-big-business course on economic policies, IMO,
things will continue to escalate and tilt frighteningly rightward.

In the classic example of Nazi Germany, the Nazi Party only got 37% of the vote. That may not be as many
as the "Trumpers" may be right now, in America. In 1930s Germany, The rest of the citizenry were pulled, or dragged, along, ultimately, by this minority, to disaster.
With the economic collapse Germany endured, that was all it took (37%) to bend the country to the extreme rightwing.

If that collapse could have been somehow lessened or neutralized for the majority of working people,
the 3rd Reich may never have come to power.

There will always be extremist groups and candidates, but history show us clearly:
Economics matter.

Bad economics clearly empowers tyranny and oppression. This a major lesson of History.
It behooves us to heed that in America, at this critical juncture.


A bad economy for working people, combined with a common sense of citizen helplessness in trying to change it,
empowers tyrants every time.


FoXNooz and the toxic US RW media ain't going anywhere (except maybe Hell).

The milions of angry, confused "Trumpers" will
still be searching, as drug-addicts do, for ever more potent sources of intoxication.

If the "bad whiskey" of past Republicans who damaged America, like Reagan and Dubya, has given way to the "cocaine" of Trump, then, we must ask-------if Trump fails,
what future candidate will be this group's heroin? Or crack?
Or meth?

If either party does not step-up to save America's middle class, the Trumpers will just get more and more extreme,
as will the "leaders" they are likely to put up, endangering our future, as much or MORE, as Trump endangers us now.

I wonder if his campaign will freeze his Twitter account, while the election results are coming in Siwsan Aug 2016 #1
I'll stay up for the concession PJMcK Aug 2016 #4
I look forward to the concession, also. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #6
I like your first best part! (n/t) PJMcK Aug 2016 #9
I wish my mom was here to see this. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #22
I wish my Mom was here too...she would be so excited Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #54
Now that I think about it, the Adrenalin Rush might make sleep impossible. Siwsan Aug 2016 #8
No way he will go down gracefully on his own. lark Aug 2016 #38
he won't concede NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #15
You're right about that. From the way that young people are abandoning Don the Con in droves, catbyte Aug 2016 #34
Last place Marty 65 Aug 2016 #94
I would be surprised if he gives a concession speech liberal N proud Aug 2016 #30
I doubt he'll ever concede. That would be consistent COLGATE4 Aug 2016 #46
If he does, it will be chock full of sour grapes. Chemisse Aug 2016 #55
Yeah, whining about how he was cheated out of his obvious victory COLGATE4 Aug 2016 #67
He wont MFM008 Aug 2016 #49
Great rant, cali PJMcK Aug 2016 #2
So You Got Your 50 Non Voters To Agree To Vote Like Michael Moore Said? Yallow Aug 2016 #21
Hear, hear...I'm working hard in CT to elect Hillary... First Speaker Aug 2016 #3
We need a democratic landslide workinclasszero Aug 2016 #5
More importantly, any who endorsed him need to lose credibility and office... Orsino Aug 2016 #7
Trump must lose to save the country... world wide wally Aug 2016 #10
We crush him! And take full advantage of this historic election ALBliberal Aug 2016 #11
Absolutely, cali. Trump must be crushed to DESTROY his politics & his kind of politician. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #12
And we need to elect many more Dems downticket of we want any progress bettyellen Aug 2016 #13
He might fake a medical reason to quit vlyons Aug 2016 #14
That would not surprise me cali Aug 2016 #16
yeah, I was thinking that too Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #18
His loser speech on election night will go down in history vlyons Aug 2016 #25
Yep! Amen! Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #47
It would not surprise me to hear him call for violence. Still In Wisconsin Aug 2016 #57
yes, admitting any defeat is just not in his character es35 Aug 2016 #85
fake assassination attempt. mopinko Aug 2016 #28
He can write his own excuse note from his "doctor"--the same one who said how healthy DTs is. Hekate Aug 2016 #39
But that's an admission of weakness. "I DON'T DO WEAK! I'M THE bullwinkle428 Aug 2016 #60
yes, totally yes. I was ok with Hillary to begin with, but wow, she freaking has to win. Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #17
He's the backlash to the excellence of PBO..a President who's (Eeeeeeek!!!!!)... Black. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #19
You can phone bank from home. cali Aug 2016 #26
I think I'd rather do it there. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #44
Concur. Crush him and his cronies like a bug DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #20
ROFL! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #45
i am not one for revenge... berksdem Aug 2016 #23
The OP isn't about revenge. I don't personally hate Trump. cali Aug 2016 #87
Yes... crushed like a walnut WheelWalker Aug 2016 #24
Yes...crushed like a grape. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #27
I Want to See Donnie Go Down in Flames Leith Aug 2016 #29
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #31
It's a terrible echo chamber. Criticism of Clinton is met poorly, horribly, cali Aug 2016 #36
If we want significant change, we need a Democratic majority in the house and senate. DanTex Aug 2016 #40
Oh, don't worry. Just as soon as the votes are counted I expect a replay of the scene here re Obama Hekate Aug 2016 #48
Thanks for your reply. By the way, I recommend Thomas Frank's new book, Ron Green Aug 2016 #75
My sentiments exactly! He needs to go down in a big way! Hillary needs to be declared the winner Liberal In Red State Aug 2016 #32
You know, those of us who live West of the Mississippi really despise that mindset. Hekate Aug 2016 #51
They will . . . That will be the Avalanche! Just like when Reagan was elected . . . I want the Liberal In Red State Aug 2016 #68
The is the schoolyard bully grown up. Dawson Leery Aug 2016 #33
I dont want to see Don he Con destroyed a much as I want to see the Pub Party destroyed! napi21 Aug 2016 #35
I want Trump to not only... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #37
I'm starting to buy into the theory he doesn't want to win Gman Aug 2016 #41
What I believe leimen Aug 2016 #42
Excactly, thanks for the piece, just as I've been saying to all that will listen... downeastdaniel Aug 2016 #43
I`m sickened by Donald Trump. democrank Aug 2016 #50
Former SoS George Schultz on a Trump Presidency: "God help us". cali Aug 2016 #52
That we agree on! Trump is running for Dicator in chief... Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #53
I agree. DawgHouse Aug 2016 #56
The world's perception Mr.Bill Aug 2016 #58
I agree, for Bernie Sanders' indisputable reasons: ancianita Aug 2016 #59
Needs to be embarrassed...landslide of EPIC proportions bmills1608 Aug 2016 #61
No, we must support Trump, sing his praises, marvel at his deeds ... JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #62
K&R! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #63
It is up to us to make this happen Docbroke Aug 2016 #64
Icing on the cake lillypaddle Aug 2016 #65
yes, though that's not my point. The sentiments expressed in the OP are not grounded in cali Aug 2016 #74
I understand lillypaddle Aug 2016 #77
There's countries threatening sanctions against us if he wins. Initech Aug 2016 #66
K&R! napkinz Aug 2016 #69
Because there is an entire WORLD, and we are losing ground in it because of him and his ilk. nolabear Aug 2016 #70
So VERY true! Did you write this Cali? vkkv Aug 2016 #71
I did. cali Aug 2016 #72
+infinity^infinity! nt LostOne4Ever Aug 2016 #73
OMG, you read my mind AwakeAtLast Aug 2016 #76
Thanks. cali Aug 2016 #88
Even a huge, landslide loss by Trump will not be the end of the danger, by a long-shot nikto Aug 2016 #78
This is what we should have done to GWB. grahamhgreen Aug 2016 #79
You couldn't be more correct!!! CRUSHED!! nt glennward Aug 2016 #80
The Republican Party put back together by people with sanity & integrity? MarianJack Aug 2016 #81
Sigh. I know. But she's better than Kelly Ayotte. Cold comfort, I know. cali Aug 2016 #89
True. MarianJack Aug 2016 #91
He needs the snot beaten out of him. And his whole accursed Bronze-Age-mentality party, too. calimary Aug 2016 #82
He and his family should be deported. nt onehandle Aug 2016 #83
Dems are predicting an "extinction event" for the GOP on the order of what killed the dinosaurs es35 Aug 2016 #84
Trump Stakes™ trusty elf Aug 2016 #86
could Russia hack the election computers? tomp Aug 2016 #90
I totally agree Lithos Aug 2016 #92
Thank you. Glad to see you post. Anytime. Anywhere. cali Aug 2016 #93
EZ joshcryer Aug 2016 #95
Yes! A REAL Landslide... freebrew Aug 2016 #96
I'd pay to see ... GeorgeGist Aug 2016 #97
I'm sure the movie script is being written. cali Aug 2016 #98
amen to that Cali.. amen to that! Peacetrain Aug 2016 #99
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