2016 Postmortem

Warren DeMontague

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69. No, I'm saying that you have constructed an opponent

Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:48 PM

Jul 2016

For your argument here that is entirely in your head. I've done this dance before.

The bottom line is that, one, there isn't a whole lot of distance between the positions of DWS and Canova on the Iran deal.

Two, as has been pointed out, there is a tremendous amount of difference between the IWR vote of 2002 and support (or lack) for the Iran deal.

Three, for me at least, the IWR isn't a deal-breaker anymore.

So that's it for the thesis of your OP, right there.

Hillary won the primary, and like Bernie Sanders I am enthusiastically supporting her. But I am not obligated to support DWS against her democratic primary opponent .

And in case you hadn't noticed, a lot of people seem to think she has done a poor job as a political leader. Pelosi and Reid don't seem to be too distraught to see her resign as DNC chair.

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Donations for War on Iran, Tim Canova [View all] BainsBane Jul 2016 OP

CDS is pretty strong among the usual suspects here, and it blinds them to the larger picture. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #1

DWS or bust. Dawson Leery Jul 2016 #2

With DWS! Her Sister Jul 2016 #4

Wow! Thanks BainsBane~ Her Sister Jul 2016 #3

It would appear that peace matters less BainsBane Jul 2016 #5

Speaking of... Hortensis Jul 2016 #27

As I noted below BainsBane Jul 2016 #36

K&R eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #6

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #7

You didn't realize that when they accepted Tulsi Gabbard into the fold? SaschaHM Jul 2016 #10

Incredible, isn't it? BainsBane Jul 2016 #12

Lol. Waay down the list. When's the last time Hortensis Jul 2016 #45

You're more generous BainsBane Jul 2016 #19

K&R NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #8

K&R mcar Jul 2016 #9

K&R brer cat Jul 2016 #11

And DWS is pro apartheid against the Palestinian people. JRLeft Jul 2016 #13

But not pro-Israel enough for Canova. BainsBane Jul 2016 #14

I do, and he's wrong on that issue, but better than her by a wide margin on most. JRLeft Jul 2016 #15

Be specific about those differences BainsBane Jul 2016 #18

Again, please tell me about that wide margin. BainsBane Jul 2016 #29

The Trade, banking deregulation, Marijuana, fracking, money out of politics, and health care. JRLeft Jul 2016 #32

I'm sorry, I'd like specifics BainsBane Jul 2016 #33

There is no case you can make that DWS is more progressive than Tim. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #42

Where is she on the Iran Nuke deal hammered out by our president? RonniePudding Jul 2016 #16

She supported it JRLeft Jul 2016 #17

Talk about propaganda. FFS! grossproffit Jul 2016 #41

K&R. nt UtahLib Jul 2016 #20

K&R Jamaal510 Jul 2016 #21

KnR. Thanks for your OP and posts in this thread also. Her Sister Jul 2016 #22

Unreal. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2016 #23

What's "progressive" about this guy again? MADem Jul 2016 #24

I guess Iran is a "progressive" war. BainsBane Jul 2016 #28

He supports cracking down on payday usury, wants us to stop subsidizing private prisons, Ken Burch Jul 2016 #39

The old saying the devil you know just may be better than the devil you Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #25

they don't give a shit about the issues. they are just full of hate JI7 Jul 2016 #26

Wow! That's some position to take.. I hope Debbie wins! Cha Jul 2016 #30

K & R pnwmom Jul 2016 #31

I gave Tim $10 but months later after I found out his Iran position I regretted it. RAFisher Jul 2016 #34

Yeah, I used to live in Palm Beach County BainsBane Jul 2016 #35

You are only doing this because Tim called for DWS' resignation as DNC chair. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #43

It most certainly is not a strawperson BainsBane Jul 2016 #50

K and R JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #37

Why would you even bother supporting DWS for another term? Ken Burch Jul 2016 #38

Not a fan of nuking Iran back to the stone age BainsBane Jul 2016 #47

Electing Tim would do nothing to make war with Iran more likely. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #55

this more goes to the idea that Canova is in it to win it ericson00 Jul 2016 #40

Clearly they aren't to the left of Hillary or DWS on the issue BainsBane Jul 2016 #53

Bernie was all about faster re-establishment of normal relations with Iran ericson00 Jul 2016 #64

Or, donations to send medical marijuana patients to prison? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #44

It absolutely means war. BainsBane Jul 2016 #48

Argle bargle. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #49

The issue is hypocrisy BainsBane Jul 2016 #51

no, the issue is you waging one of your battles against another straw army. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #54

Here's the deal BainsBane Jul 2016 #66

Are you actually arguing that war with Iran isn't a real issue? BainsBane Jul 2016 #68

No, I'm saying that you have constructed an opponent Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #69

You were in the thread BainsBane Jul 2016 #70

That's right. And I am strongly supporting Tim Canova. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #71

There is nothing in common between HRC's Iraq War vote and Tim's position on Iran. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #60

some people I have a beef with came out today, and said they like Rocky Road ice cream Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #62

When DWS comes out on top... NCTraveler Jul 2016 #46

When is the primary there? BainsBane Jul 2016 #52

Aug 30. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2016 #56

August 30 Freddie Stubbs Jul 2016 #57

Please don't interrupt the Two Minutes Hate for DWS Freddie Stubbs Jul 2016 #58

It has never been hate(and certainly never Orwellian). Ken Burch Jul 2016 #63

That way well be the case BainsBane Jul 2016 #67

Tim Canova now supports the Iran deal Chathamization Jul 2016 #59

He's only been a candidate since the deal was made BainsBane Jul 2016 #65

This proves you are wrong about Tim's position on Iran: Ken Burch Jul 2016 #61

I posted content rom HIS website. BainsBane Jul 2016 #73

Tim Canova was on RW hate talker Joyce Kaufman's show today. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #72