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2016 Postmortem

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Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:42 PM Jul 2016

GOP Rocked By Clinton Truth Bomb That Russia Is Helping Trump [View all]


The Hillary Clinton campaign went there today by connecting the dots and letting voters know that the Russian government is working to get Donald Trump elected president.


Transcript via ABC’s This Week:
STEPHANOPOULOS: What more is there to know?

We see what’s in them.

MOOK: Well, what’s disturbing about this entire situation is that experts are telling us that Russian state actors broke into the DNC, took all these emails and now are leaking them out through these Web sites.

Obviously, they have to determine, you know, what’s accurate, what — what’s been doctored, what has been doctored. And it’s troubling that some experts are now telling us that this was done by — by the Russians for the purpose of helping Donald Trump.

We said…

STEPHANOPOULOS: For the purpose of helping Donald Trump?

MOOK: That’s what some experts are saying. And so a…

STEPHANOPOULOS: Is that what you believe?

MOOK: Well, I don’t know. The experts need to tell us that. It was concerning last week that Donald Trump changed the Republican platform to become what some experts would regard as — as pro-Russian. And so, again, the DNC needs to — needs to look into this and take appropriate action.
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That's a good way to spin it. Scuba Jul 2016 #1
It seems to be accurate Bradical79 Jul 2016 #11
Probably accurate and diverts heat to the R's. Scuba Jul 2016 #14
It wasn't Russia newthinking Jul 2016 #34
Guccifer is more "powerful" than Putin? Hortensis Jul 2016 #48
Guccifer was more powerful than Putin? newthinking Jul 2016 #65
You suggested he did what Putin could not, but Hortensis Jul 2016 #66
Gucciffer is a hacker. He hacked. Not a god newthinking Jul 2016 #68
yes it was. CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian i Sunlei Jul 2016 #75
Is Romanian hacker Guccifer 2.0 thus affiliated? Ghost Dog Jul 2016 #86
I think the obvious instability Trump would bring to America, would be a benefit to Russia. Rex Jul 2016 #76
Cross post, fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #78
I love it.... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #2
Trump/Putin triron Jul 2016 #13
Yeah but corporate media ignoring it. Iliyah Jul 2016 #3
WaPo and the Times will dig into it, bet on that RonniePudding Jul 2016 #24
I won't take that bet :) They've both published a number of articles Hortensis Jul 2016 #64
I guess they'd rather talk about sarae Jul 2016 #29
spin DonCoquixote Jul 2016 #4
Even if it *is* true, assuming the emails aren't fabricated, they still deserve the attention. JudyM Jul 2016 #16
Russia wants to stir up primary ill will Trenzalore Jul 2016 #17
I believe in rooting out unethical behavior by anyone, any party. It doesn't get a pass. JudyM Jul 2016 #18
Since no one is pure there should be plenty of hobby work. nt fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #79
No one is pure but that does not excuse an absence of ethical behavior. JudyM Jul 2016 #87
I think everyone can benefit from a hobby. fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #88
Thanks for the putdown, but I happen to work in the ethics/compliance field. JudyM Jul 2016 #90
I'd be interested in differences between public vs private entities ethics compliance obligations. fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #92
Re:compliance, it depends on the regulations/regulating entities, which vary depending on nature of JudyM Jul 2016 #93
^^^This!!! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #89
So we are Red Scaring again? Elmergantry Jul 2016 #5
no. we're getting the truth out. mopinko Jul 2016 #8
How is this any different than when the RWs claimed Gore was compromised newthinking Jul 2016 #36
+1. Trump is a monster but I want facts not speculation nt riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #63
It's not a "red scare" tactic if it's acurate Bradical79 Jul 2016 #9
It is not accurate newthinking Jul 2016 #38
CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence- BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #69
Snopes does an excellent job summarizing what has gone on. newthinking Jul 2016 #71
Guccifer 2.0 is nothing but a disinformation or deception campaign by Russian state-sponsored hacker BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #72
1st problem with your contention is that Russia isn't Red anymore. stevenleser Jul 2016 #37
Red scaring? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2016 #74
Makes one wonder what they may be holding? gordianot Jul 2016 #6
Trump should be forced to divest himself of all monitary ties to Russian sources randr Jul 2016 #7
which brings us to- just what is his plan mopinko Jul 2016 #10
Wow NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #12
Anyone who doubts the Russians could be behind it should Ilsa Jul 2016 #15
Plenty of doubters around here tonight....ALL OF THE SUDDEN RonniePudding Jul 2016 #31
Yep they must be PUTINS spies newthinking Jul 2016 #39
Oh look, there's another. RonniePudding Jul 2016 #40
so the guy that has been here two weeks is newthinking Jul 2016 #41
Got to keep that Russian Bogeyman meme going LarryNM Jul 2016 #83
You noticed that too eh? leftofcool Jul 2016 #51
And trying to influence people to elect a Putin toady as our president RonniePudding Jul 2016 #53
Yep leftofcool Jul 2016 #59
This might work EricMaundry Jul 2016 #95
The best-known swiftboaters and ratfuckers are running the Trump campaign. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #19
I hope to see the Trump/Putin commercials ericson00 Jul 2016 #20
yes, but if there hadn't been a turd in the refrigerator in the first place Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #21
The email issue is only one of 4-5 major situations where Trump and Russias interests dovetailed. nt stevenleser Jul 2016 #43
Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been, objectively, a disaster for our party image. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #45
I disagree, but that point is not necessary for us to agree on. The "Trump is Putin's Stooge" issue stevenleser Jul 2016 #46
And we should continue to talk about that. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #47
What was revealed in those emails is all fine and jim dandy. stevenleser Jul 2016 #49
I find the CFO of the DNC suggesting that a candidate's Atheism be "used" against him Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #50
Not something I would have done. But it doesn't break the impartiality rule which is about two stevenleser Jul 2016 #52
I didn't say it broke any impartiality rule. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #54
That's all I am concerned about. Other than that, the private emails are of no interest to me. nt stevenleser Jul 2016 #55
You probably shouldn't be concerned at all. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #56
Nope, she is a convenient scapegoat and whipping boy. Folks who were after her will now find stevenleser Jul 2016 #57
Whatever, most Sanders people are on board. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #58
This was not done, this is an M$M meme people believe without much discrenment uponit7771 Jul 2016 #70
Uh, I read the text of the actual email. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #82
More email problems. This can't be good for Hillary in the public's eye. jalan48 Jul 2016 #22
but but how can this be? Who's he gonna start ww3 with then? stupidicus Jul 2016 #23
Lots of spin there. humbled_opinion Jul 2016 #25
I am guessing you have not read about Trump and Manafort's ties to Russia? leftofcool Jul 2016 #61
Seriously... newthinking Jul 2016 #67
Wow! Dkc05 Jul 2016 #26
Hmmmm. If someone had just installed and maintained secure servers... Purveyor Jul 2016 #27
See my #43 above. nt stevenleser Jul 2016 #44
I don't understand what the big deal is here floppyboo Jul 2016 #28
Same here Elmergantry Jul 2016 #62
AND Russia helped hack the DNC Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #30
All I'll say is - the timing of this is AWFULLY fishy. calimary Jul 2016 #32
You nailed it. MIGHTY convenient, isn't it? eom LibraLiz1973 Jul 2016 #84
Masterful spin job. KPN Jul 2016 #33
Stalinist Trump getting help from former KGB chief - what a good headline that would be. Feeling the Bern Jul 2016 #35
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #42
"Some experts..." is like any "some people say..." David__77 Jul 2016 #60
surprised me how all the other Republicans shut-up and stood aside. what are they afraid of? Sunlei Jul 2016 #73
CrowdStrike BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #80
Thanks, that's interesting. Sunlei Jul 2016 #81
kick Dawson Leery Jul 2016 #77
It's on the front page of CNN LibraLiz1973 Jul 2016 #85
I'd say the republican party workinclasszero Jul 2016 #91
they only prefer Trump over Clinton as trump is so stupid it's easier for Putin to get his way. He Bill USA Jul 2016 #94
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