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2016 Postmortem

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Sun Jul 10, 2016, 06:52 AM Jul 2016

'We Have Just Written Half of the GOP Platform': Progressives Dismayed by Dem Party Platform [View all]

"The trend continued on the second-to-last day of platform negotiations in Orlando, Florida, when Clinton surrogates on Friday rejected an amendment supporting the creation of a postal banking system, modeled on the one in North Dakota, as well as measures that would end corporate welfare and lay penalties on companies for offshoring jobs, lift the $250,000 income cap on the social security tax, and expand cost of living increases for senior citizens' social security benefits."


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Getting stuck on a platform that carries no binding weight with elected officials is not Jitter65 Jul 2016 #1
I don't think this article begins to say that the Democratic Party give everyone what they want. midnight Jul 2016 #2
I keep asking, and people keep not answering... Scootaloo Jul 2016 #3
The platform is always vanilla Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #4
Doesn't answer my question Scootaloo Jul 2016 #5
Sure I did. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #9
I remember the Lilly Ledbetter act came about because of the huge controversy over midnight Jul 2016 #7
It was passed by the House and Senate in 2009 because Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #10
Lilly Ledbetter had the courage and privilege of speaking at our Democratic convention to let midnight Jul 2016 #12
And it still happens Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #100
The struggle goes on. midnight Jul 2016 #120
I completely agree Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #123
I sure as shit remember fighting with Straight Democrats to get pro LGBT language Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #16
I suspect you'll just hear crickets. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2016 #46
Then simply don't have a platform. When somebody asks just say... ret5hd Jul 2016 #19
The platform is supposed to be what the Party stands for. That is it nonbinding is all the more merrily Jul 2016 #54
Honestly, people would be better served by working on changing Congress than by putting so much kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #83
NOT including some items is the same as what the GOP favors? I don't understand that. randome Jul 2016 #6
This is what I don't understand. midnight Jul 2016 #8
All things that most of us would be in favor of, too. randome Jul 2016 #13
I see good stuff in the platform, some of Sanders' stuff apcalc Jul 2016 #11
I think that is the whole point is the GOP platform is a big time sucků. midnight Jul 2016 #15
Platform is looking solid and to be very progressive from what I have read. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #14
I firmly believe it's a mistake to waltz around the TPP issue in the platform. Snarkoleptic Jul 2016 #18
Thing is, "being on the side of working people" LONG-TERM may well call for trade agreements. Hoyt Jul 2016 #32
TPP might be an easier sell if all could be expected to play by the rules. Snarkoleptic Jul 2016 #39
^^^This!!! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #47
Don't try to con people to thinking the TPP is good for anyone but billionaires, long or short term. w4rma Jul 2016 #101
More CommonFantasies nonsense. JoePhilly Jul 2016 #17
Seems to me like shoring-up Social Security would be a plus. Snarkoleptic Jul 2016 #20
After watching them bash Obama for eight years. JoePhilly Jul 2016 #27
They're really "out there". NurseJackie Jul 2016 #21
Oh BULLSHIT! This is the progressive platform in many years. Enough of the purist horseshit. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #22
Unfortunately the last 35 years has caused many more Americans to go without so that so few midnight Jul 2016 #119
Purist idiots never learn. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #23
Any criticism of the extreme rightward drift is "purist". Got it. arendt Jul 2016 #61
no, not any criticism. I referred to fact-free, obviously false whining like geek tragedy Jul 2016 #63
Then, you need to qualify your blanket insult arendt Jul 2016 #64
Did you read the headline of this post? geek tragedy Jul 2016 #66
Because "expand" is the kind of empty verbiage that has been used forever... arendt Jul 2016 #69
Platforms aren't legislation, they generally talk about values and goals geek tragedy Jul 2016 #70
So, if they have no teeth, why object to something that is a core Democratic Party value - SocSec? arendt Jul 2016 #72
eliminating the cap isn't a core Democratic party value. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #75
So the issue is that you have no concept of what a platform IS? -nt- Lord Magus Jul 2016 #77
One of the goals of the platform committee is to give the GOP no ammunition Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #105
Clinton has details of the expansion she envisions on her website- one great thing is bettyellen Jul 2016 #74
Claiming that an "extreme rightward drift" exists among Dems certainly can be described as such. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #76
For f***s sake, it's the most liberal platform in a generation. This purity garbage is ridiculous. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #24
In that case it doesn't say much for the platforms of the last generation. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #31
How progressive do you think it would be were Bernie not involved NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #40
The poster you responded to LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #50
What the fuck is with your "team Hillary" snark. Are you not a part of team Hillary? Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #113
About what we could expect HassleCat Jul 2016 #25
Except that it's not true. What in that platform will likely appear in the GOP platform? Zynx Jul 2016 #28
Nothing wrong with the platform. HassleCat Jul 2016 #124
Really? The Third Way is about $15 minimum wage, the public option, etc? They're awesome! CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #37
You won't find very much of anything in that platform in the GOP platform this time. Zynx Jul 2016 #26
If you give a mouse of cookie... SaschaHM Jul 2016 #29
I didn't realize comparing Sanders supporters to mice is allowed under DU general election rules. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #34
It's a common proverbial phrase. If you want to feel personally victimized by it, be my guest. SaschaHM Jul 2016 #35
Bernie supporters are pretty much fair game now. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #36
No, Bernie Sanders likes this platform. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #42
Try here. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #43
"We got 80% of what we wanted." geek tragedy Jul 2016 #59
* Trajan Jul 2016 #108
$15 per hour minimum wage may be meaningless if TPP with ISDS passes Arizona Roadrunner Jul 2016 #30
No one is 'surrendering' anything. randome Jul 2016 #45
The ISDS has been in worldwide trade agreements since 1959, none of that has happened. If it had, Hoyt Jul 2016 #49
France says they won't sign TTIP. We just had Brexit. But "Europe..signing as fast as they can". LOL arendt Jul 2016 #73
Who said that? Plus, I don't think it's finished, probably several years away. Hoyt Jul 2016 #82
TTIP will never pass here in the EU AntiBank Jul 2016 #95
Yes the TPP will render all of the labor laws unenforceable. Doctor_J Jul 2016 #51
Yes. The TPP vote is the real stinker. The rest is chump change, as AR notes. n/t arendt Jul 2016 #62
+1 TheFarseer Jul 2016 #97
Which party at one time had this in its platform? hobbit709 Jul 2016 #33
The Republican Party in 1956, when Richard Nixon was the VP. (NT) Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #41
Beautifully said. midnight Jul 2016 #122
The author conflates postal banking with state banks. Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #38
"If the Democratic Party would fight as hard for the Working Class ... Scuba Jul 2016 #44
Awww rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #48
And appantly our "diverse coalition" Proud Public Servant Jul 2016 #53
Exactly! ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #56
"We got 80% of what we wanted in this platform."--Sanders campaign geek tragedy Jul 2016 #65
Bernie is one person. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #79
And all you need to do is convince majorities of voters in 218+ Congressional geek tragedy Jul 2016 #81
I vote. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #84
you make an awful lot of assumptions about the motives of people who disagree with you geek tragedy Jul 2016 #85
You seem to take offense to statements that haven't been directed toward you directly. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #87
Lulz. nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #94
Thank you for doing this- it's heartbreaking what passes as affordable healthcare... midnight Jul 2016 #121
What would the Democratic platform have been if Bernie had not run? nt merrily Jul 2016 #52
It would be unimportant just as it is now. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #106
"Taking Congress" by 60 LIBERAL Senators is not going to happen, ever. merrily Jul 2016 #110
We did not have sixty liberal Senators ...not with Lieberman and Kennedy desperately ill Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #114
Yes, I know. See the subject line of my prior post. merrily Jul 2016 #116
Fair enough. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #117
The party leadership is primarily Reagan republicans. Doctor_J Jul 2016 #55
WAAAAAAAH!!!!!! MohRokTah Jul 2016 #57
No they didn't. nt ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #58
"We got 80% of what we wanted in this platform"--Sanders campaign geek tragedy Jul 2016 #60
Which means they didn't get 100%, so they can continue to bellyache. Bernie is not only going to be Hekate Jul 2016 #93
So, a Republican platform?Clintonites explain pls. George Eliot Jul 2016 #67
Explanation: "We got 80% of what we wanted in this platform"--Sanders campaign geek tragedy Jul 2016 #68
Ok. Not republican. But we're Democrats. George Eliot Jul 2016 #86
"Progressive", "New Wave", "Alternative" It's all just Pop. LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #78
Talking platform. Not Bernie. George Eliot Jul 2016 #88
My point is that you differentiate between Liberal and Progressive, while aligning "progressive" LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #91
Still dividing dems.I think those are issued we George Eliot Jul 2016 #98
I don't use the word "liberal", because internationally it means "neoliberal". (nt) w4rma Jul 2016 #104
The platform as currently written would be burned at a Republican convention. Zynx Jul 2016 #80
Good. So why not go for it? George Eliot Jul 2016 #89
That's good. Go for more. Supposed to be that way. George Eliot Jul 2016 #99
now, now, the progressive stuff that DID pass is destined to be ignored come 11-9-16 MisterP Jul 2016 #71
That's funny and probably true. I hope not. George Eliot Jul 2016 #90
this ^^^^^^^^^^ AntiBank Jul 2016 #96
Who are these "progressives?" iandhr Jul 2016 #92
Common Dreams is the Brietbart of the left. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #102
Strategically, why fight on this? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #103
works for me. nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #107
haven't had COLA heaven05 Jul 2016 #109
Well, we progressives are dismayed by most modern American politics... Orsino Jul 2016 #111
You can't please the Purists, no matter what. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2016 #112
Oh, good god! baldguy Jul 2016 #115
Did I accidently wind up on JPR? joshcryer Jul 2016 #118
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