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2016 Postmortem

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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:00 AM Jun 2016

Should the next Democratic president apologize to Latin America for all past US intervention? [View all]

Last edited Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:48 AM - Edit history (1)

Corollary question: should that president agree to leave Latin America alone from now on?

Second corollary question...if not, why not?

(If anyone is voting no because they supported HRC in the primaries and see this as an attack on her, you've got my intentions wrong here. It is not a comment about her in the slightest).


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Yes, she should apologize
15 (44%)
No, she should not apologize
17 (50%)
No opinion
2 (6%)
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should all the native american groups who ever attacked each other apologize? nt msongs Jun 2016 #1
That's up to them(some have, I think). Not comparable to what I was talking about at all. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #2
No. oasis Jun 2016 #3
Because...? Ken Burch Jun 2016 #4
To what purpose? Hillary knows she'll need to take care of the oasis Jun 2016 #9
How would this conflict with that? Ken Burch Jun 2016 #11
Not on the top 100 list of most Americans. Priorities. nt oasis Jun 2016 #13
It wouldn't take any significant amount of time. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #15
press conferences etc. + Off message on what would currently be going on. oasis Jun 2016 #18
With regard to the first question, perhaps some. David__77 Jun 2016 #5
by "leave alone", I don't mean have nothing at all to do with those countries. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #6
I agree totally on the need to acknowledge all of the miseries inflicted on Native Americans Ken Burch Jun 2016 #7
Do you even begin to realize how utterly inadequate okasha Jun 2016 #24
I totally agree with everything you've said there. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #25
You realize that would have to be done individually? okasha Jun 2016 #28
Yes, but it is about our overall mindset towards the hemisphere. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #35
And yet they were all... tonedevil Jun 2016 #42
Arguing over who goes first just ensures nothing is addressed. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #20
Scotaloo wasn't the poster making fatuous remarks about Native Americans needing to apologize. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #26
We need a truth and reconciliation commission with Latin America. Nt killbotfactory Jun 2016 #12
Good point. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #17
I suppose that there is a sense in which everyone should apologize to everyone else for everything, Tal Vez Jun 2016 #14
Admission of wrong is part of the process of improvement. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #16
Actually, I look forward to the day when we might be able to unify our hemisphere, Tal Vez Jun 2016 #29
If, by Americans, you mean the peoples of this hemisphere, an apology will do a lot. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #30
If it will help, I'll sign it. Write it up! Tal Vez Jun 2016 #32
What good is a false apology? Downwinder Jun 2016 #19
Not Kissinger himself, obviously Ken Burch Jun 2016 #31
Actions speech louder than words. Downwinder Jun 2016 #33
We need to do both. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #34
Apologize posthumously to Edmund and Elizabeth Horman? Downwinder Jun 2016 #37
That would help. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #39
The single best thing the US could do for Latin Americs okasha Jun 2016 #38
That should be done too. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #40
I'm not tryong to start an argument. okasha Jun 2016 #43
The apology is meant as a starting point. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #44
There can be no "plan" okasha Jun 2016 #45
I never claimed that apologies by themselves solve all problems. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #46
How many apology dominos do we need? okasha Jun 2016 #47
We need all of those AND action. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #48
Perhaps not. okasha Jun 2016 #67
The unjust past since at least 1820, then. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #70
See my reply to your post 63. okasha Jun 2016 #73
The CIAs cold war meddling should be apologized for, certainly. joshcryer Jun 2016 #21
Yes, specifically what Friedman and Kissinger did in Chile. Exilednight Jun 2016 #22
It goes much deeper than just US interventionalism AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #23
Absolutely. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #27
Castro and Che are heroes in Latin America? George II Jun 2016 #50
Yes AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #52
Did you see what the author said about his own work? George II Jun 2016 #53
Irrelevent AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #54
No it isn't. In fact it's been banned in several Latin American countries. George II Jun 2016 #55
Yes it is AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #56
Well, this is what you said: George II Jun 2016 #58
It was banned in the 70s AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #60
Exactly. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #65
presumably when the military dictatorships were in power. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #64
But the point is that it was stated that this book was REQUIRED reading for all students... George II Jun 2016 #66
Required reading for all students in Latin American countries without a military junta in power. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #68
So it's a qualified "required reading", if even that. George II Jun 2016 #69
It doesn't discredit the statement if the book was only taken off the reading list Ken Burch Jun 2016 #71
It is required reading... AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #77
I'm inclined to say yes, but just to stop doing it already would be enough. n/t Old Union Guy Jun 2016 #36
I think some people here are voting no because they think this is an attack on HRC. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #41
Why? George II Jun 2016 #49
No. As with many of our relationships we simply start to foster them.... NCTraveler Jun 2016 #51
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #57
Yes and every American company should MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #59
To what specific and measurable end? LanternWaste Jun 2016 #61
Apologies are cheap. They do not fix the problems. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #62
And again, I wasn't suggesting that apologies were ALL that was needed. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #63
Can and have. okasha Jun 2016 #72
Only if it ceases to be something that the US gives orders to. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #74
My problem with this sort of apology okasha Jun 2016 #75
That isn't the chief purpose I have. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #76
Why, the US never apologizes for any wrong doing in any part of the world! akbacchus_BC Jun 2016 #78
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