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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
146. Thanks for the back story.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

I remember him for "Segregation now! Segregation tomorrow! Segregation forever!" statements from his inaugural of Jan. 14, 1963.



Didn't know he had turned into such a liberal, especially considering the lengths to which Nixon's White House, in which Poppy Bush was a player, went to exploit his near-assassination.

"Reluctantly, I began to pack a bag, adding to it the shaving kit that held my CIA-issue physical disguise and documents....I called several airlines and found that the only available flight would put me in Milwaukee about 11 o’clock that night." -- E. Howard Hunt

E. Howard Hunt, Undercover (New York: Berkley Publishing Corporation, 1974), p. 217 via "Bremer & Wallace: It’s Déjà Vu All Over Again" by Lisa Pease.
moderates, centrists and independents eat that shit up. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1
Regardless of his flaws and they were many Bush never demonized Muslims or Hispanics. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #6
Oh my unicorn he is practically a saint then isn't he! Well I was wrong! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #9
Compared to Trump Bush was a saint. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #15
Ask Mrs. King. Octafish Jun 2016 #22
Thank you for your input. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #25
You are most welcome! Octafish Jun 2016 #37
Thank you for sharing those photographs with me. I never saw them before. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #46
you do realize the only reason Wallace was in that photo dsc Jun 2016 #138
Thanks for the back story. Octafish Jun 2016 #146
again it isn't the choice I would have made dsc Jun 2016 #150
At one time George Wallace was quite progressive and was endoresed by the NAACP BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #217
Speaks volumes to me, and many of the troops, Sir. bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #187
bush never dissed......... heaven05 Jun 2016 #210
Ohhh dear excuse me for critizing your man!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #44
Thank you for misrepresenting my position and sneaking in an ad hominem attack as well DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #50
As you did mine! You have a very nice weekend as well! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #60
I don't believe I misrepresented your position as my commitment to veracity is my sine qua non. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #64
You are kinda cute! You know that though eh! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #71
I live in the SFV. It's going to be > 105 degrees !!! DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #74
5000 dead US soldiers and 100, 000 dead innocent Iraqis based on a lie? Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #59
You must have left out your sarcasm thingy. jonestonesusa Jun 2016 #112
And Dubya never praised Mussolini nor Hitler! Obama should give him a Medal of Freedom award! imagine2015 Jun 2016 #153
George W Bush met Hillary Clinton at Nancy Reaganís funeral BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #218
W didnt disparage, he just stole from them, used them and lied to them swhisper1 Jun 2016 #231
Lol Dem2 Jun 2016 #19
I would venture to say it is you that is dangerous to our country! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #56
Now you're just spamming fallacies Dem2 Jun 2016 #68
Have a lovely day! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #85
this is the kind of black and white thinking that cause something like the OP treestar Jun 2016 #211
candidate Bush in 2000 was WAY more moderate and acceptable than any of the Republican geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10
GWB never "demonized" Muslims sure; GWB just lied the USA into war and blew up Muslims with PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #80
Thank you for your input. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #81
Your threats are childish. blackspade Jun 2016 #95
I didn't threaten anybody in this thread. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #101
Your silly continual references to Monday's changeover.... blackspade Jun 2016 #119
Exactly. I wondered by this person kept saying this over and over... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #123
That wasn't my intention. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #134
Party unity is a dirty word to some... blackspade Jun 2016 #141
What an odd inference. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #125
Oh yes, how odd. blackspade Jun 2016 #139
I take that as you have no intention to apologize for disrespecting, dehumaninizing.... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #142
Disrespect, dehumanize, and delegitimize? blackspade Jun 2016 #172
There is no need to disrespect , deligitimize, and dehumanize me DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #179
Lather, rinse, repeat.... blackspade Jun 2016 #181
No projection, sir or madame. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #182
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #136
I refuse to respond to your attempt to denigrate, disrespect, and dehumazine me in kind. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #143
Candor compels to opine that you must have slept through Shock and Awe Autumn Jun 2016 #191
There is no need for us to address our fellow members in such a hurtful fashion. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #196
Just don't bother to PM me. I blocked messages from you after the last one. Autumn Jun 2016 #198
Thank you for getting another shot in and insulting me again. I refuse to respond in kind. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #199
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Thank you... I hope to be your model. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #204
You are the perfect role model and the quintessential DUer. Autumn Jun 2016 #206
Thank you. I think. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #207
Good grief. Cary Jun 2016 #219
You bet your fucking ass I'm bitter, I lost a Nephew in that clusterfuck so put your Autumn Jun 2016 #221
Enjou Cary Jun 2016 #222
Whoa. Hissyspit Jul 2016 #240
Whatever. Cary Jul 2016 #241
Somehow that didn't stop you from supporting Clinton in 2008 BainsBane Jun 2016 #232
That's not the reason I won't support her. nt Autumn Jun 2016 #236
Presidents and First Ladies are the only ones who knows the crap they go through yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #94
Hey nice Bernie attack there. Sneaky too! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #66
this is the primary forum, correct? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #70
You do know Hillary won the primary don't you? Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #82
I know it, but the junior Senator from Vermont refuses to admit it nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #87
And you care because WHY? Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #234
Until he suspends his campaign he is in the picture. By his choice. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #220
I guess Bush wasn't that bad. I still think he's a war criminal tho NWCorona Jun 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #4
I know and I actually thought that note was a nice gesture to Bill NWCorona Jun 2016 #7
Mike Malloy... ReRe Jun 2016 #34
Nope. blackspade Jun 2016 #20
Exactly Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #98
.... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #107
Yes that was an attempt at sarcasm on my part. NWCorona Jun 2016 #129
Why would anyone support GWB? Blows my mind. n/t Paper Roses Jun 2016 #3
She has admitted she's after the Republican vote..... KoKo Jun 2016 #8
For every Republican vote she gains... ReRe Jun 2016 #77
A Dem base she doesn't care about any way Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #100
Well... ReRe Jun 2016 #111
It's vulgar Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #147
Is this what it means to be a "pragmatic progressive"? demwing Jun 2016 #189
Bernie also said he hoped one_voice Jun 2016 #135
The difference is that Bernie never pandered to them arikara Jun 2016 #209
Support? That's not how I read this. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #35
In politics, sometimes people have to be diplomatic shenmue Jun 2016 #215
George HW Bush used the phrase voodoo economics against Reagan in their primary tonyt53 Jun 2016 #5
Moneynfor his banker friends to rebuild! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #13
And he got a vote for his war from that money. Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #43
Indeed I suppose it does! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #88
As a New York Senator, she asked for things from him and got them. leftofcool Jun 2016 #11
At Nancy's funeral Hillary spoke a litany of lies in service to Reagan at the expense of the truth Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #12
It's good politics, appealing to centrists and Republicans uncomforatble with Trump. YouDig Jun 2016 #14
Expanding the wrong way; to the right. blackspade Jun 2016 #23
Every vote counts the same. If there are centrist votes available, and with Trump, there are, YouDig Jun 2016 #26
Centrists don't like the Bushes.... blackspade Jun 2016 #48
Some centrists do. And I can't think of too many Democrats that would vote against her YouDig Jun 2016 #51
Recall GWB's gaff in calling his war making a "crusade"? eom PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #90
yes I do heaven05 Jun 2016 #239
Nope...Sanders himself (and many DUers agreed) he was wooing the "R" vote. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #63
You mean she behaved like a grown up person La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #16
Praising a war criminal? blackspade Jun 2016 #24
As long as he remains unconvicted by any courts La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #27
By that loose definition any member of Congress who votes for defense spending is a war criminal. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #33
So he gets a pass from you. blackspade Jun 2016 #38
Lol. Such drama. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #53
Oh yes, death and destruction is "drama" blackspade Jun 2016 #62
I'm sure her reaction would be the same if Bernie praised W. I'm sure of it Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #102
You mean how we're told that Bernie supporters are mostly angry, white, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #148
It's been constant forever. This past year has been like a frustrating nightmare that won't end Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #149
Nightmare is it. What twisted, contradictory and absurd claims offensive to many groups. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #152
She praises the opposition when it is not apporpriate nor even accurate: Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #29
She said that at a funeral and apologized for being wrong La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #30
No, she said that after the funeral, to the press without being asked about it. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #39
Why are you lying about me? I've criticized Ronald Reagan a million times on du La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #52
You mock me for caring about the history. "No matter how obsessed you are with this" you snark Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #75
I mock you for using a misstatement for an irrational hatred La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #78
You mock me for caring about the truth and seeking to bring that truth to the table. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #104
Ahhh was she tired and overworked. Poor Hillary! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #108
March, 2016. Hillary Clinton with MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell appalachiablue Jun 2016 #131
I totally agree! nt LAS14 Jun 2016 #159
She likes war criminals - Kissinger, Netanyahu etc so her affection for the Bush crime family Arazi Jun 2016 #213
Legitimizing a corrupt and criminal regime that gave us torture, unjustified wars tabasco Jun 2016 #17
George W Bush who ignored NSA, CIA, FBI warnings about Osama bin Laden? Octafish Jun 2016 #18
This means he couldn't have helped out New York after 9/11??? nt LAS14 Jun 2016 #161
Hadn't thought of it that way. Thought he was criminally negligent, at best. Octafish Jun 2016 #171
Yeah...you missed the part where they won't endorse her...of course you did. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #21
Didn't miss it. blackspade Jun 2016 #32
I know it's hard for those on the far, far end of the political spectrum to understand, but... Tarc Jun 2016 #28
Cordial terms do not require false or undue praise nor the revision of important history to serve Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #31
Why do you always manage not to include that she apologized La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #36
Why is an apology all it takes to make that go away? Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #49
Because the Clinton's have a long history of HIV AIDS activism La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #76
Saying that a person who shit on HIV problems was a champion for it Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #86
Bob Hattoy at the 1992 Democratic Convention, spoken in Hillary's presence: Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #93
I think that is the truth! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #120
Oh, she bashed then said 'sorry'? That means it can't be discussed? She said what she said on TV Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #61
She didn't bash anyone. Your hatred is making you blind La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #73
Sorry but when you take away the good works of an oppressed group and credit those actions Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #84
She apologized only because she saw the polls dropping!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #114
+2 The cold, calculating truth. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #133
I believe that Clinton long apologized for the AIDS and Reagan comments Tarc Jun 2016 #65
I buried the love of my life back then, also half my friends and mentors. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #79
You get out what you put in, as the saying goes Tarc Jun 2016 #91
I'll just let readers read what you have just said and what I said. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #105
The readers will see you dredging up some thing Hillary said that she already apologized for Tarc Jun 2016 #116
"Love and Kindness" QC Jun 2016 #128
I am so sorry Blue. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #126
This^^^ Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #110
Some are not sophisticated and well read enough to understand that historical context. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #45
So that's what we're doing now? Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #55
To the extent that you wish to demonize everything about those Republicans that have served this Trust Buster Jun 2016 #97
Disingenuous bullshit. blackspade Jun 2016 #115
Being a Democratic website does not mean that one must hate every aspect of Republicans. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #122
Snort. blackspade Jun 2016 #137
There isn't a fucking "tea party left" blackspade Jun 2016 #57
No freeper ever hated liberals more than QC Jun 2016 #69
No kidding. blackspade Jun 2016 #96
"Hating" is going crazy over Hillary complimenting past presidents. Projection. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #103
No, hating is his kind of stuff. QC Jun 2016 #113
Nope, hating is being so sanctimonious as believing everything is black and white and good and evil Trust Buster Jun 2016 #118
I find the Cavers at DI to be more open minded and friendly. Autumn Jun 2016 #214
Post #97 applies to your post as well. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #99
Chah! What do you think this is? The Democratic Underground? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #162
Because the best way to win a general election is call the other party names. BootinUp Jun 2016 #40
Somebody just above you referred to progressives Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #67
I used the term "Tea Party Left" as it applies to totally demonizing the service of past presidents Trust Buster Jun 2016 #106
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #225
Re-read the OP and maybe you will understand the subject matter better. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #226
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #227
Hillary said none of that in the OP. Go re-read the OP so you have a better understanding of the Trust Buster Jun 2016 #229
Because she's not the "burn the whole house down and demonize everyone" person that a Trust Buster Jun 2016 #41
Obama pinned a medal on Poppy Octafish Jun 2016 #42
Because hating on an old man that served his country in WWII, the CIA, the vice presidency and Trust Buster Jun 2016 #47
HW Bush was a murderer and a coward WDIM Jun 2016 #83
Your over the top and sanctimonious attitude does not impress me at all. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #109
If reality is over the top and sanctimonious for you WDIM Jun 2016 #121
Get a grip. Re-read the OP. It criticized Hillary for saying that H.W. asked her opinions and Trust Buster Jun 2016 #124
Terrorists for Bush Octafish Jun 2016 #132
Not hate, telling the truth. Octafish Jun 2016 #130
Revolting Doctor_J Jun 2016 #54
Democrats have been taken over WDIM Jun 2016 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #58
That was the straw that broke the camel's back. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #72
So we, as liberals, are expected to believe ... surrealAmerican Jun 2016 #89
Eliz. Warren explained it a few years back. QC Jun 2016 #92
Warren certainly received the treatment from Summers about the Club. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #144
She certainly did, and then she compounded her grievous sin QC Jun 2016 #145
Roll out those tortured rationales, oh brave cognitive dissonants. RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #117
I have no problem with her saying truthful nice things about Bush dsc Jun 2016 #140
Hitler created the autobahn and the VW bug Buzz cook Jun 2016 #151
Really? blackspade Jun 2016 #155
We were headed toward Godwin's rule Buzz cook Jun 2016 #160
Maybe you should run for president on those observations. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #163
Gotta remember this excellent comeback. Unfortunately... LAS14 Jun 2016 #174
How to explain that? It's pretty easy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #154
That's a lousy explanation. blackspade Jun 2016 #156
Okay ... But that IS how the real world works. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #164
Especially when criminals are given a pass. blackspade Jun 2016 #167
Why should we have to explain it? Do we want... LAS14 Jun 2016 #157
Sorry, not giving the Bush criminals a pass. blackspade Jun 2016 #166
So acknowledging a good thing about someone is giving... LAS14 Jun 2016 #173
That poster is way out there. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #175
Way out where? blackspade Jun 2016 #183
It's a big club, and although you're not in it, we insist you vote for it. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #158
How is acknowledging what is probably simply true "pivoting to the right???" nt LAS14 Jun 2016 #165
Some think that politicians should be kicking each other in the balls or ovaries. grossproffit Jun 2016 #168
Some balls and ovaries deserve to be kicked. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #169
If your goal is going to jail for assault and battery. grossproffit Jun 2016 #170
A lot if hatred in this thread over nothing. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #176
And a lot of casuistry, sophistry, obscurantism as well... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #180
That is disturbing DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #184
I find the language and imagery disturbing. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #185
A lot of the comments defending her statements are unbelievable to me. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #177
Ain't that some shit? d_legendary1 Jun 2016 #178
It's the new way. EndElectoral Jun 2016 #193
It is very simple to explain. potone Jun 2016 #186
Beings the current Prez Go Vols Jun 2016 #188
OMG, is Team Hill openly embracing the Bushes now? Hydra Jun 2016 #190
If "praising" means speaking the truth. As NY Senator she relied on Bush to get the funding needed glennward Jun 2016 #194
It was dishonest of her to lie for the Bushes to get them a blank check for the Iraq war Hydra Jun 2016 #197
Huh? Lie for the Bushes? When, where? You mean voting for the war like so many other glennward Jun 2016 #216
Lol Hydra Jun 2016 #223
Oh my gawd! She's a grown up that behaves professionally! Lil Missy Jun 2016 #192
I've noticed how many Republicans have praised Obama. EndElectoral Jun 2016 #195
DU liberals justifying this... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #201
Sickening, ain't it? pokerfan Jun 2016 #212
Obviously they're not liberals. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #230
Have you ever watched the House or Senate in action on C-Span? George II Jun 2016 #202
I imagine she's trying to get votes from Republicans who can't stand Trump gollygee Jun 2016 #203
The optics is all true and has been for 50 years. gordianot Jun 2016 #205
The vitriol being spewed in this post primary season is what happens redstateblues Jun 2016 #208
That red arrow felix_numinous Jun 2016 #224
He was committed to getting New York money to rebuild -- as praise goes, that's hardly even praise fishwax Jun 2016 #228
and that's supposed to convince people BainsBane Jun 2016 #233
Sure, cut the crap. blackspade Jun 2016 #237
A presidential candidate doesn't get to do scorched-earth... Orsino Jun 2016 #235
One word. Carter. blackspade Jun 2016 #238
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