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41. From Steve Singiser

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Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:37 AM

Nov 2012

Steve Singiser ?@stevesingiser
@Redistrict : Hearing from numerous others that real reason is many OH counties didn't have EV in 08...?

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Disturbing tweet about OH early voting [View all] democrattotheend Nov 2012 OP

That is because the hours were cut back. Chillax. JRLeft Nov 2012 #1

According to his tweets democrattotheend Nov 2012 #2

And they missed a day due hurricane Sandy. JRLeft Nov 2012 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author fujiyama Nov 2012 #5

Cuyahoga had days of bad weather due to hurricane Sandy. LisaL Nov 2012 #7

Well, actually, Franklin county is up compared to 2008. LisaL Nov 2012 #25

Franklin county is a big deal. woolldog Nov 2012 #35

In OH, absentee ballots have to be mailed before the election. LisaL Nov 2012 #38

They cut back early voting hours didn't they? woolldog Nov 2012 #26

They did. And Cuyahoga had days and days of rain and no electricity in some parts due to Sandy. LisaL Nov 2012 #32

Democrattotheend went to bed before the end CreekDog Nov 2012 #84

Sorry, I saw it right before I went to sleep democrattotheend Nov 2012 #103

This is what the Romney campaign has been saying for a while TroyD Nov 2012 #4

Oh the Romney campaign said... Maximumnegro Nov 2012 #28

Well I guess since Romney is well known for his honest I have to believe it. LisaL Nov 2012 #40

they say Republican early vote is up 14% and Democratic early is down 4%. Rove was saying jezebel Nov 2012 #6

Obama leads large in early vote in all the OH polls. LisaL Nov 2012 #8

And you watch O'Reilly and Rove WHY??? You're quoting numbers from Karl Rove? progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #64

Axelrod responds. mzmolly Nov 2012 #65

in Ohio your party ID is based off last primary, Dems had no reason to vote in primary this cycle krawhitham Nov 2012 #81

These numbers were based on county democrattotheend Nov 2012 #102

This is why I think it's premature for Nate Silver & others to call OHIO for Obama now TroyD Nov 2012 #9

Silver is making his calls based on the polls. woolldog Nov 2012 #39

Psssst.... FrenchieCat Nov 2012 #10

Ugh... Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #11

Not just decent. A large lead. LisaL Nov 2012 #12

They are manipulating the vote count in Ohio UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #13

Is there a record of the original vote count flamingdem Nov 2012 #18

You also need to wonder, if there is a Trojan in the code, who's side planted it? fearnobush Nov 2012 #45

there's paper CreekDog Nov 2012 #82

SurveyUSA poll: O leads early voters 58 to 38 Cicada Nov 2012 #14

That's a 20 point lead in early voting. LisaL Nov 2012 #16

Ohio does not track party affiliation, only the last primary you voted in. 20895DEM Nov 2012 #15

This is a load crap, malarkey! Even RCP has a HIGHER polling average now than on 2008. fearnobush Nov 2012 #17

Why are you posting this again? BlueInPhilly Nov 2012 #19

Nate Silver responded. mzmolly Nov 2012 #20

HOW DARE YOU BRING FACTS AND NUMBERS INTO OUR FREAK OUT! Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #22

Sorry bout that! mzmolly Nov 2012 #37

What data? Not the data I've seen. SunSeeker Nov 2012 #21

By the way, this tweet doesn't appear to be correct. LisaL Nov 2012 #23

Did you see Nate Silver tweet that even if they readjust numbers on '12 totals... Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #27

I was responding to a claim that early voting in Franklin county is down compared to 2008, when LisaL Nov 2012 #29

I know...I was just pointing out that even if the #s were true, the difference would be minimal. Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #31

Well, it's not true. LisaL Nov 2012 #34

This Place Is Incredible, Isn't It?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #33

I think Wasserman is jumping the gun. mzmolly Nov 2012 #44

I think he is confused about something. LisaL Nov 2012 #46

Your Concern Is Duly Noted.Thank You For Your Input/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #24

democrattothend isn't a concern troll woolldog Nov 2012 #53

OMG DER POLZ AND EV WUR WRNG ONOZ Maximumnegro Nov 2012 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #36

From Steve Singiser RandySF Nov 2012 #41

Am I crazy, or is Wasserman confusing absentee voting with mzmolly Nov 2012 #42

I have no clue as to what he is talking about at all. LisaL Nov 2012 #43

I think he's very mzmolly Nov 2012 #47

I think he should stop tweeting in the middle of the night. LisaL Nov 2012 #48

Too much alcohol. Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #49

And what is excuse for someone to post his tweets here? LisaL Nov 2012 #50

Nerves? Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #52

My thoughts as well. mzmolly Nov 2012 #58

And he called absentee voting an early voting. A big no-no. LisaL Nov 2012 #59

Wasserman is making a valid observation Azathoth Nov 2012 #51

He appears to be confused about absentee vs. early voting, and you claim LisaL Nov 2012 #54

You are trying to make a distinction without a difference Azathoth Nov 2012 #60

So are all the polls wrong? woolldog Nov 2012 #61

No, but I don't remember what the polls showed for early voting in 2008. Azathoth Nov 2012 #66

Early voting in Franklin county is actually up, not down, compared to 2008. LisaL Nov 2012 #68

Well I was worried about this a few days ago. woolldog Nov 2012 #70

You don't have to buy anything. LisaL Nov 2012 #63

Excellent point. mzmolly Nov 2012 #69

Yes, republicans could have takend advantage of absentee voting (which they usually LisaL Nov 2012 #71

I think you're missing the point? mzmolly Nov 2012 #67

Well, I can't vouch for the accuracy of the numbers Azathoth Nov 2012 #73

Last day to send ballots was a day before the election. LisaL Nov 2012 #75

I don't claim the numbers are inaccurate. mzmolly Nov 2012 #76

I am sure Husted sending every voter an absentee ballot application was designed to LisaL Nov 2012 #78

In a poll from mid-October, Obama led McCain by 18 among early voters... Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #55

So that appears to be consistent by how much he is over Romney. LisaL Nov 2012 #56

That is encouraging Azathoth Nov 2012 #72

Axelrod responds to this critique in general. mzmolly Nov 2012 #62

That's the bottom line, I guess Azathoth Nov 2012 #74

Indeed. mzmolly Nov 2012 #77

There are still 50,000 outstanding absentee ballots in Cuyahoga. LisaL Nov 2012 #79

OHIO.. More actions to disenfranchise voters. Please read and sign the petition.. crunch60 Nov 2012 #57

29.7% EV'ed in 2008 and 31.0% have EV'ed in 2012 not counting yesterday krawhitham Nov 2012 #80

The issue is what counties are overperforming and underperforming in early voting woolldog Nov 2012 #85

Cuyahoga still has 50,000 outstanding absentee ballots. LisaL Nov 2012 #86

I'm thinking/hoping woolldog Nov 2012 #88

Could be Sandy. They had really bad weather up North because of Sandy. LisaL Nov 2012 #89

tbh, woolldog Nov 2012 #92

Could have been worse if election was closer to Sandy. I think they are very enthusiastic. LisaL Nov 2012 #97

It does not matter what counties they come from, all polling data shows us with a giant lead in EV krawhitham Nov 2012 #87

Could also be why they are late in sending in their absentee ballots. LisaL Nov 2012 #90

We are ahead by 83,330 in Cuyahoga County alone krawhitham Nov 2012 #83

Bottom line is that deep red counties are up 14% while deep blue ones are down 4% Azathoth Nov 2012 #91

Where did the numbers on that spreadsheet come from? LisaL Nov 2012 #92

I didn't compile it Azathoth Nov 2012 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL Nov 2012 #92

After a relatively UTLonghorn Nov 2012 #96

If it's by 1%, we will be sitting waiting for results for weeks. LisaL Nov 2012 #98

If it makes you feel any better UTLonghorn Nov 2012 #101

Nate Silver AND Dave Wasserman say to chill out Pacific moderate Nov 2012 #99

Polls predict better than EV data Pacific moderate Nov 2012 #100