2016 Postmortem

okasha

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63. The only effect DC will have is to increase Hillary's majority.

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:14 PM

Jun 2016

And no, there was no reason to wait. The strategic thing right now is to get the Democratic heavy-hitters onto the field against Trump, who is a clear and present danger to the country.

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Is anybody going to talk about the claim about Sanders possibly winning California? [View all] Seeinghope Jun 2016 OP

He lost California by a wide margin. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #1

Results won't be in for a while. 840high Jun 2016 #5

OH, the results are very much in. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #7

Yet another fraudulent election, full of dirty tricks. reformist2 Jun 2016 #44

Conspiracy Theories metroins Jun 2016 #60

Yet another election that Sanders lost Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #91

Worse campaign in history...bull shit leftinportland Jun 2016 #131

The kind pf thinking that is hostile to anyone who dared oppose the chosen one. reformist2 Jun 2016 #132

I did not say it was the worst. Bernie was his own worst enemy...he should have listened to his team Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #144

You're talking to somebody who thinks the elections must be rigged because of rally sizes. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #137

Good point. Nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #143

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Jun 2016 #105

Thank you. If we can't even express our opinion that elections can be rigged, then reformist2 Jun 2016 #110

You have until the 16th to do so obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #113

Better watch your back. It is getting really, really bad. pangaia Jun 2016 #118

This. She already won... scscholar Jun 2016 #81

So you think all those ballots will be for Sanders? brush Jun 2016 #12

Read the details of the articles. Seeinghope Jun 2016 #16

I don't have to. All the ballots are not for Sanders. He lost. Face the music. brush Jun 2016 #18

Hillary won by a lot. Sancho Jun 2016 #28

Not by over 2 million. And yes, a big % of those will be Sanders votes. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #43

The vote count so far has put her ahead even more. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #94

Then there is nothing to fear from counting them Ash_F Jun 2016 #99

Yes they will be counted ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #104

I am not afraid of counting anything. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #123

Counting votes is a waste of time and money???? Wow. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #128

We need to just let MSM and Supers decide. They really don't need us. kpola12 Jun 2016 #139

There are other items on the ballot. Ash_F Jun 2016 #163

People's votes should be counted IF they voted correctly. If they didn't, they shouldn't. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #162

PSA: California Presidential Primary Election June 7, 2016, President Democratic - Statewide Results Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #164

Yes, there are still mail in ballots to be counted. Bernie would have to win 75%. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #166

No (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #2

Seeing how it is complete-arsed bullshit, not really, no Tarc Jun 2016 #3

This is strange. bravenak Jun 2016 #4

I believe that's why it took so long for Bernie to speak. They had hoped it would tighten up. grossproffit Jun 2016 #13

Nobody I know went to even one rally. But they voted, Hillary mostly. bravenak Jun 2016 #23

Right. GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #37

The caucus was bad enough bravenak Jun 2016 #38

Yep GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #39

Ha! You'd be right about that! bravenak Jun 2016 #40

Can't argue against that GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #41

Omg were you at my caucus? MFM008 Jun 2016 #72

Every caucus I have ever seen was a hot, humid, sweaty, mess. bravenak Jun 2016 #73

More unity building, I see. Glad to know you don't need my vote. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #45

Ok GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #48

Wow, you really haven't been paying attention. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #49

So GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #52

To a Sanders supporter lancer78 Jun 2016 #70

dismissive much RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #54

All I was trying to say GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #59

First thing will be to not tell you on DU. Others may differ, but that seems silly to do. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #62

Well GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #67

I'm not going anywhere. There's no requirement that I must write gushing comments about the nominee JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #68

Glad to hear it GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #74

You get the rules... NCTraveler Jun 2016 #93

I just said that. The person I was replying to didn't understand that. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #111

Somewhat poorly worded on my part. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #112

Ah, ok. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #125

but that's NOT what you said. RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #69

My family had jobs and went to see Obama. We volunteered and we had jobs. peace13 Jun 2016 #71

Saying that large rallies do not translate into votes is not mocking large rallies. charlyvi Jun 2016 #97

Aaa...you may want to reread some of those, in this OP and across the Board. peace13 Jun 2016 #98

Once more... charlyvi Jun 2016 #101

I don't have any issue with people going to rallies... Adrahil Jun 2016 #151

....this year! peace13 Jun 2016 #157

One year of data does not establish predective power... Adrahil Jun 2016 #158

I could never as smart as you....... peace13 Jun 2016 #159

Very very very very unlikely. Zynx Jun 2016 #6

Her votes will go up as well. grossproffit Jun 2016 #8

.... 840high Jun 2016 #9

I'm sure some people will talk about that just like any other dumb conspiracy on the internet. YouDig Jun 2016 #10

Elvis never did no drugs... Matt_R Jun 2016 #145

The claim you are making is that Clinton stole the election? oberliner Jun 2016 #154

No reason to Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #11

Oh my, wouldn't that be embarrassing? Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #14

Say that by some miracle... Adrahil Jun 2016 #21

Oh, I think that would be pretty embarrassing. nt Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #24

By the time it happened, Bernie will have already endorsed her. Adrahil Jun 2016 #25

Pretty sure it would still matter quite a bit. nt Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #26

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #15

Sanders remains rattled by the California vote Zorro Jun 2016 #17

Happy to have done my part. grossproffit Jun 2016 #19

Diverse states were his achilles heel through out the campaign with few exceptions. brush Jun 2016 #22

Elvis never did no drugs... Matt_R Jun 2016 #146

Explain please. brush Jun 2016 #149

Its cool you don't get it. Matt_R Jun 2016 #150

How profound. Wish I hadn't bothered. brush Jun 2016 #153

But you did, and are still responding. Matt_R Jun 2016 #156

And the AP and Clinton campaign collussion to suppress the vote doesn't bother you even the Live and Learn Jun 2016 #50

If the warmongering, hanging with Kissinger,... HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #77

Same old smears redstateblues Jun 2016 #120

Just the facts, ma'am. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #121

lolz you guys! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #115

Politico has an article today stating that Sanders stopped polling in CA ahead of vote due to cost. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #92

+1000 stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #103

Greg Palast has proven himself a crank. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #20

This isn't near over. kpola12 Jun 2016 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author floppyboo Jun 2016 #29

So embarrassing alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #30

Thank you! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #42

Yeah, I've been trying not to roll my eyes about this obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #116

If it wasn't for the wingnuts here, I never would have heard of this...and eastwestdem Jun 2016 #31

He lost and it wasn't close jcgoldie Jun 2016 #32

This is just my 2 cents. Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #33

I posted this back on the day of the VA Primary FSogol Jun 2016 #34

The silver lining is Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #35

Since world war 2 Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #47

Both of my sons (college age) have never missed an election or primary. n/t FSogol Jun 2016 #87

Almost missed this post. I hope others read it as well. Thank you for posting this.eom grossproffit Jun 2016 #46

Most important thread in this post. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #127

As they say what difference does it make. But it might explain the rush to align behind her. Skwmom Jun 2016 #36

This is what parties do once they have a nominee. okasha Jun 2016 #53

They couldn't wait until DC voted? Really? Skwmom Jun 2016 #58

The only effect DC will have is to increase Hillary's majority. okasha Jun 2016 #63

He is such a danger they did EVERYTHING they could in primary after primary to elect the weakest Skwmom Jun 2016 #75

They meaning the voters? hack89 Jun 2016 #114

Democracy is best left to social media and the fleeting moods of birds at large venues. randome Jun 2016 #122

Don't forget the vital role of big corporate media and their polls. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #126

The Establishment. Skwmom Jun 2016 #129

So you completely discount the votes of millions of people? hack89 Jun 2016 #130

Why should they waste the time? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #95

It's pretty obvious who DC will vote for and by a wide margin.... ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #108

+1 Matt_R Jun 2016 #148

Is anyone going to talk about me having Ice Cream tonight? postatomic Jun 2016 #51

We had champagne. murielm99 Jun 2016 #57

Losing California would've been absolutely devastating to the Clinton campaign RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #55

Exactly. I knew before primary day they would make sure she "won". And they did. reformist2 Jun 2016 #142

yes, there are a lot of votes outstanding....Trump votes, Cruz votes, Sanders votes, Clinton votes,. Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #56

People should know that a lot of those ballots probably aren't for the Democratic Primary. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #61

SNOPES: Ballot Blocks It's true that millions of California ballots have yet to be certified Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #64

Absolutely. Greg Palest started the bullshit how Provisional ballots aren't counted, and that is a still_one Jun 2016 #80

Palast. Greg Palast. One of the best journalists around. Octafish Jun 2016 #133

California has probably the most transparent process around onenote Jun 2016 #135

Willful ignorance has nothing to do with it. Palast doesn't lie. Octafish Jun 2016 #136

Nope. beastie boy Jun 2016 #65

No, because it is flame bait n/t lancer78 Jun 2016 #66

vote by mail still being counted Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #76

Another stupid post! The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #78

A post that says "Election fraud' gets hidden? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #79

I have never seen State calls reversed MFM008 Jun 2016 #82

There wasn't any voter suppression. ucrdem Jun 2016 #83

Please don't break off into the sea! auntpurl Jun 2016 #84

Still attached to mainland ucrdem Jun 2016 #86

Besides, more states yet to vote! robbedvoter Jun 2016 #85

Caucus states to boot! grossproffit Jun 2016 #89

Bookmarking to keep kicked...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #88

HIllary Clinton's lead has increased Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #90

Nate Silver: Not looking good for Sanders brooklynite Jun 2016 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #100

Oh, I fully expect that the "but to declare someone else the winner now will just upset things" djean111 Jun 2016 #102

As a Bernie supporter, I'd rather let the validated votes do the talking. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #106

Sanders needs a margin of over 440k votes to pull ahead ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #107

Well, you and a few others, maybe. The rest of us are mocking the claim. randome Jun 2016 #109

I think they're slogging through it. Didn't someone file a lawsuit about it? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #117

Ballots not counted on election day, including provisional and late-arriving MineralMan Jun 2016 #119

What's to talk about? Sanders PD deficit requires him to net at least 80% of Cali's PDs to catch up. apnu Jun 2016 #124

Weekend kick...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #134

I am at a listening stage right now with a wait, watch and see attitude. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #138

Sad DesertRat Jun 2016 #140

No, because it's bullshit. Next. Maven Jun 2016 #141

Sanders was ahead until AP called it the day before. n/t Matt_R Jun 2016 #147

Suuuuure he was.... Nt Adrahil Jun 2016 #152

The win should be for Sanders? oberliner Jun 2016 #155

Hillary will get the win on most of those ballots Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #160

we all know who won hearts and minds. Corruption isnt new swhisper1 Jun 2016 #161

Kick...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #165

Sanders got trounced in California. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #167