2016 Postmortem

Herman4747

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95. Getting insights is not by itself problematic...

Reply to Adrahil (Reply #93)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:22 AM

Jun 2016

acting in accord with malicious ideas obtained is.

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What makes this most difficult to accept [View all] retrowire Jun 2016 OP

The people have spoken. redstateblues Jun 2016 #1

Yes, but what they actually said is not as clear as some on DU pretend. A mere sampling. merrily Jun 2016 #6

What "people"? pinebox Jun 2016 #15

Like they did in 2004, when Chimpy was re-elected? n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #63

That doesn't make them right or wise. n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #90

No they haven't. Don't mistake results from a corrupted system as speaking for the People. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #114

It's not difficult for me to accept. bigwillq Jun 2016 #2

Well said! One of the 99 Jun 2016 #17

Congrats on 2,000 posts! bigwillq Jun 2016 #29

Thanks! nt One of the 99 Jun 2016 #32

The Media has spoken. snort Jun 2016 #109

Trade deals? She will work with Congress. Military conflict? She will use prudence. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #3

LOL! o.k. merrily Jun 2016 #7

Someone channeled their inner Bush this morning pinebox Jun 2016 #16

um, you should probably not direct that comment to me. merrily Jun 2016 #20

lol pinebox Jun 2016 #22

"There is no bargaining on that for her." - Did you miss the time Clinton indicated she was open to PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #28

I am not so sure she will use prudence democrattotheend Jun 2016 #112

Ok boston bean Jun 2016 #4

3 isnt? because shes literally said this about womens right to choose retrowire Jun 2016 #9

and there's your problem... msanthrope Jun 2016 #37

this was the proudest most pompous response ive ever received retrowire Jun 2016 #41

Thing is, you'd turn away because you have no answer to the legal point raised. msanthrope Jun 2016 #69

no, its really that I don't know that you're right retrowire Jun 2016 #75

Thank you for making my point....clinging to ignorance about actual reproductive law, whilst msanthrope Jun 2016 #83

oh boy retrowire Jun 2016 #94

Casey is the SCOTUS decision that defines abortion rights for American women. msanthrope Jun 2016 #100

okay, has bernie gone against Casey? nt retrowire Jun 2016 #106

Yes. If he supports no restrictions on abortion after viability, yes. msanthrope Jun 2016 #110

Casey was a SCOTUS abortion case... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #104

I just got mansplained on abortion rights by a guy who doesn't know what this is. msanthrope Jun 2016 #108

I find this to be one of the most intelligent and beautifully worded responses on this topic. Thanks PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #44

Thank you.....note that the OP finds my tone not to his liking....it's hilarious. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #85

I am an intelligent woman who has heard Hillary's stance on abortion and other issues... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #64

You've "heard" on abortion? I've worn the blue vest. Maybe you need to hear from more msanthrope Jun 2016 #71

Oh no I made a typo. I will rush to fix it. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #105

Responses HERVEPA Jun 2016 #11

Those flaws are high on the list for the privileged and not the marginalized and the fact that... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #5

And this encourages Hillary supporters to be gracious winners ... HOW? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #8

You're really having a lot of trouble with that one, aren't you? merrily Jun 2016 #23

Ha! Then the "beatings will continue," eh? As you wish. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #34

Me and mine? Ugh. I posted to you about you. Are you responsible for every post by merrily Jun 2016 #40

Justify it as you will. Belligerence and pettiness changes nothing. Nothing! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #66

Neither does snark about how you just can't be nice to Bernie's supporters, but that hasn't merrily Jun 2016 #88

Yes, yes ... we know. Bernie's aggressive supporters have suddenly become delicate flowers. And ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #101

Keep ignoring that you posted repeatedly that you did not know how Hillary supporters merrily Jun 2016 #103

I see you've taken your choice ... okay. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #107

If Planned Parenthood is good with her on choice, you can relax nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10

it was befuddling to understand that endorsement in light of this retrowire Jun 2016 #12

I find the dog whistle stuff on abortion to be distracting Tarc Jun 2016 #27

With respect auntpurl Jun 2016 #30

"Bernie wasn't running to be president of the United States" -- ALL his statements to the contrary.. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #98

He never tried to appeal to moderates/centrists or Republicans auntpurl Jun 2016 #102

No, it wasn't. They've given the long list of explicit reasons for it. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #47

I agree. I was shocked honestly! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #68

Not befuddling at all. seaglass Jun 2016 #84

Well, the head of PP endorsed her, but relaxing is silly when she put merrily Jun 2016 #42

That is not what she did. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #67

RESTRICTIONS? on the bitty right to choose the SCOTUS has granted? merrily Jun 2016 #74

the SCOTUS never granted a right to abortions deep into the third trimester. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #99

She will govern this country much like President Obama has done... DCBob Jun 2016 #13

i like obama but he isnt perfect retrowire Jun 2016 #21

I didnt say he was perfect but if you liked Obama then you should be fine with Hillary. DCBob Jun 2016 #24

I trust Obama's integrity, even when I disagree with him and feel comfortable with him in charge Armstead Jun 2016 #65

Because Obama focused a lot on racial justice issues? merrily Jun 2016 #43

No.. because she has said it many many times and has worked for women's issues in the past. DCBob Jun 2016 #45

Hillary has said a lot, including that she is willing to negotiate a Const. Am. merrily Jun 2016 #49

I trust her on this issue. DCBob Jun 2016 #54

Women are supposed to care who some anonymous DU male says he trusts on abortion? merrily Jun 2016 #92

Sorry. What Hillary has said has not always matched up to reality. merrily Jun 2016 #53

If you care about those issues or any issues, you'll vote Hillary in November. YouDig Jun 2016 #14

You only debate so far anyway. You really don't want a debate. R B Garr Jun 2016 #18

Here is the thing, I know in your hearts you believe all the hype about Clinton. seabeyond Jun 2016 #19

Attacking HRC relentlessly for months didn't pan out, huh? LexVegas Jun 2016 #25

Yes. But only one side can win an election, and progressive success doesn't depend on one election HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #26

"We lost an election and FOUND OURSELVES!" Thirties Child Jun 2016 #50

We can't really be sure if we lost or not. This is only a sample. merrily Jun 2016 #57

My case. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #31

Clear? Remind us about the Wall Street regulation she introduced as a Senator? merrily Jun 2016 #46

You literally just brought up a bill Sanders voted for. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #55

Speaking of honest discussion, how honest is your Reply 55 exactly? merrily Jun 2016 #62

There is not one single dishonest word in 55. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #72

Still more "honest" discussion in Reply 72. You must be so proud. merrily Jun 2016 #82

Hint: if you don't like abuse, find another forum. Gregorian Jun 2016 #33

By all voting measures, yes it was. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #38

Or so it may seem on the surface. merrily Jun 2016 #51

Are you some kind of HA Goodman acolyte? No one has time to follow so many links down BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #56

Gee, I'm so sorry for backing up what I said with links instead of bullshitting. I'm so ashamed. merrily Jun 2016 #61

Interesting...... Land of Enchantment Jun 2016 #77

Only one candidate can win jzodda Jun 2016 #35

you're not going to get an answer.... Locrian Jun 2016 #36

I've never seen so much hysteria from people who are supposed to be critical thinkers. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #39

Your arguments against Hillary's record and her money/corporate puppetmasters won't be heard here Triana Jun 2016 #48

There's really nothing to debate at this point RandySF Jun 2016 #52

your "fall in line" statement may be shocked to learn that retrowire Jun 2016 #58

I'm just saying that the debate over the Democratic nomination is over. RandySF Jun 2016 #60

im not debating though retrowire Jun 2016 #76

Are you arrogant enough Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #59

When the voters are mistaken, like they were in 2004... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #70

The problem is that you're pre-emptively claiming you are right. randome Jun 2016 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Herman4747 Jun 2016 #87

I've expressed my objections to Bernie a number of times... Adrahil Jun 2016 #73

this statement falls into 2. retrowire Jun 2016 #79

Speaking of the world, how "pragmatic" is it... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #80

Well, he certainly is a not a good guy.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #86

Yeah, like how best to prevent the restoration of Democracy... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #89

You didn't want a serious answer. Adrahil Jun 2016 #93

Getting insights is not by itself problematic... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #95

Like you guys keep saying, Hillary won democrattotheend Jun 2016 #113

Hillary is nothing like Bernie folks here said she is. upaloopa Jun 2016 #81

fall in line right? nt retrowire Jun 2016 #96

She knows about our concerns with her perceived hawkishness ecstatic Jun 2016 #91

no no no retrowire Jun 2016 #97

Meaningless. You can't live in New York and not know people ecstatic Jun 2016 #111

Locking. Disruptive meta-discussion is forbidden. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #115