2016 Postmortem

retrowire

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12. it was befuddling to understand that endorsement in light of this

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:09 AM

Jun 2016

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/09/29/hillary_clinton_i_could_compromise_on_abortion_if_it_included_exceptions_for_mothers_health.html

Bernie never compromised on it or entertained the idea for comparison.

I'm only saying endorsements have lost their meaning to me in this election. The environmental organization endorsing Hillary the fracking candidate blew my mind the most.

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What makes this most difficult to accept [View all] retrowire Jun 2016 OP

The people have spoken. redstateblues Jun 2016 #1

Yes, but what they actually said is not as clear as some on DU pretend. A mere sampling. merrily Jun 2016 #6

What "people"? pinebox Jun 2016 #15

Like they did in 2004, when Chimpy was re-elected? n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #63

That doesn't make them right or wise. n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #90

No they haven't. Don't mistake results from a corrupted system as speaking for the People. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #114

It's not difficult for me to accept. bigwillq Jun 2016 #2

Well said! One of the 99 Jun 2016 #17

Congrats on 2,000 posts! bigwillq Jun 2016 #29

Thanks! nt One of the 99 Jun 2016 #32

The Media has spoken. snort Jun 2016 #109

Trade deals? She will work with Congress. Military conflict? She will use prudence. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #3

LOL! o.k. merrily Jun 2016 #7

Someone channeled their inner Bush this morning pinebox Jun 2016 #16

um, you should probably not direct that comment to me. merrily Jun 2016 #20

lol pinebox Jun 2016 #22

"There is no bargaining on that for her." - Did you miss the time Clinton indicated she was open to PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #28

I am not so sure she will use prudence democrattotheend Jun 2016 #112

Ok boston bean Jun 2016 #4

3 isnt? because shes literally said this about womens right to choose retrowire Jun 2016 #9

and there's your problem... msanthrope Jun 2016 #37

this was the proudest most pompous response ive ever received retrowire Jun 2016 #41

Thing is, you'd turn away because you have no answer to the legal point raised. msanthrope Jun 2016 #69

no, its really that I don't know that you're right retrowire Jun 2016 #75

Thank you for making my point....clinging to ignorance about actual reproductive law, whilst msanthrope Jun 2016 #83

oh boy retrowire Jun 2016 #94

Casey is the SCOTUS decision that defines abortion rights for American women. msanthrope Jun 2016 #100

okay, has bernie gone against Casey? nt retrowire Jun 2016 #106

Yes. If he supports no restrictions on abortion after viability, yes. msanthrope Jun 2016 #110

Casey was a SCOTUS abortion case... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #104

I just got mansplained on abortion rights by a guy who doesn't know what this is. msanthrope Jun 2016 #108

I find this to be one of the most intelligent and beautifully worded responses on this topic. Thanks PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #44

Thank you.....note that the OP finds my tone not to his liking....it's hilarious. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #85

I am an intelligent woman who has heard Hillary's stance on abortion and other issues... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #64

You've "heard" on abortion? I've worn the blue vest. Maybe you need to hear from more msanthrope Jun 2016 #71

Oh no I made a typo. I will rush to fix it. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #105

Responses HERVEPA Jun 2016 #11

Those flaws are high on the list for the privileged and not the marginalized and the fact that... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #5

And this encourages Hillary supporters to be gracious winners ... HOW? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #8

You're really having a lot of trouble with that one, aren't you? merrily Jun 2016 #23

Ha! Then the "beatings will continue," eh? As you wish. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #34

Me and mine? Ugh. I posted to you about you. Are you responsible for every post by merrily Jun 2016 #40

Justify it as you will. Belligerence and pettiness changes nothing. Nothing! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #66

Neither does snark about how you just can't be nice to Bernie's supporters, but that hasn't merrily Jun 2016 #88

Yes, yes ... we know. Bernie's aggressive supporters have suddenly become delicate flowers. And ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #101

Keep ignoring that you posted repeatedly that you did not know how Hillary supporters merrily Jun 2016 #103

I see you've taken your choice ... okay. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #107

If Planned Parenthood is good with her on choice, you can relax nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10

it was befuddling to understand that endorsement in light of this retrowire Jun 2016 #12

I find the dog whistle stuff on abortion to be distracting Tarc Jun 2016 #27

With respect auntpurl Jun 2016 #30

"Bernie wasn't running to be president of the United States" -- ALL his statements to the contrary.. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #98

He never tried to appeal to moderates/centrists or Republicans auntpurl Jun 2016 #102

No, it wasn't. They've given the long list of explicit reasons for it. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #47

I agree. I was shocked honestly! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #68

Not befuddling at all. seaglass Jun 2016 #84

Well, the head of PP endorsed her, but relaxing is silly when she put merrily Jun 2016 #42

That is not what she did. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #67

RESTRICTIONS? on the bitty right to choose the SCOTUS has granted? merrily Jun 2016 #74

the SCOTUS never granted a right to abortions deep into the third trimester. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #99

She will govern this country much like President Obama has done... DCBob Jun 2016 #13

i like obama but he isnt perfect retrowire Jun 2016 #21

I didnt say he was perfect but if you liked Obama then you should be fine with Hillary. DCBob Jun 2016 #24

I trust Obama's integrity, even when I disagree with him and feel comfortable with him in charge Armstead Jun 2016 #65

Because Obama focused a lot on racial justice issues? merrily Jun 2016 #43

No.. because she has said it many many times and has worked for women's issues in the past. DCBob Jun 2016 #45

Hillary has said a lot, including that she is willing to negotiate a Const. Am. merrily Jun 2016 #49

I trust her on this issue. DCBob Jun 2016 #54

Women are supposed to care who some anonymous DU male says he trusts on abortion? merrily Jun 2016 #92

Sorry. What Hillary has said has not always matched up to reality. merrily Jun 2016 #53

If you care about those issues or any issues, you'll vote Hillary in November. YouDig Jun 2016 #14

You only debate so far anyway. You really don't want a debate. R B Garr Jun 2016 #18

Here is the thing, I know in your hearts you believe all the hype about Clinton. seabeyond Jun 2016 #19

Attacking HRC relentlessly for months didn't pan out, huh? LexVegas Jun 2016 #25

Yes. But only one side can win an election, and progressive success doesn't depend on one election HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #26

"We lost an election and FOUND OURSELVES!" Thirties Child Jun 2016 #50

We can't really be sure if we lost or not. This is only a sample. merrily Jun 2016 #57

My case. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #31

Clear? Remind us about the Wall Street regulation she introduced as a Senator? merrily Jun 2016 #46

You literally just brought up a bill Sanders voted for. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #55

Speaking of honest discussion, how honest is your Reply 55 exactly? merrily Jun 2016 #62

There is not one single dishonest word in 55. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #72

Still more "honest" discussion in Reply 72. You must be so proud. merrily Jun 2016 #82

Hint: if you don't like abuse, find another forum. Gregorian Jun 2016 #33

By all voting measures, yes it was. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #38

Or so it may seem on the surface. merrily Jun 2016 #51

Are you some kind of HA Goodman acolyte? No one has time to follow so many links down BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #56

Gee, I'm so sorry for backing up what I said with links instead of bullshitting. I'm so ashamed. merrily Jun 2016 #61

Interesting...... Land of Enchantment Jun 2016 #77

Only one candidate can win jzodda Jun 2016 #35

you're not going to get an answer.... Locrian Jun 2016 #36

I've never seen so much hysteria from people who are supposed to be critical thinkers. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #39

Your arguments against Hillary's record and her money/corporate puppetmasters won't be heard here Triana Jun 2016 #48

There's really nothing to debate at this point RandySF Jun 2016 #52

your "fall in line" statement may be shocked to learn that retrowire Jun 2016 #58

I'm just saying that the debate over the Democratic nomination is over. RandySF Jun 2016 #60

im not debating though retrowire Jun 2016 #76

Are you arrogant enough Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #59

When the voters are mistaken, like they were in 2004... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #70

The problem is that you're pre-emptively claiming you are right. randome Jun 2016 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Herman4747 Jun 2016 #87

I've expressed my objections to Bernie a number of times... Adrahil Jun 2016 #73

this statement falls into 2. retrowire Jun 2016 #79

Speaking of the world, how "pragmatic" is it... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #80

Well, he certainly is a not a good guy.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #86

Yeah, like how best to prevent the restoration of Democracy... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #89

You didn't want a serious answer. Adrahil Jun 2016 #93

Getting insights is not by itself problematic... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #95

Like you guys keep saying, Hillary won democrattotheend Jun 2016 #113

Hillary is nothing like Bernie folks here said she is. upaloopa Jun 2016 #81

fall in line right? nt retrowire Jun 2016 #96

She knows about our concerns with her perceived hawkishness ecstatic Jun 2016 #91

no no no retrowire Jun 2016 #97

Meaningless. You can't live in New York and not know people ecstatic Jun 2016 #111

Locking. Disruptive meta-discussion is forbidden. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #115