2016 Postmortem

mhatrw

(10,786 posts) Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:37 AM Jun 2016

I find it amazing that after all the years of conflict I have endured on DU, [View all]

a place I sincerely appreciate as an important information resource, that this is where it all ends.

with the most inopportune candidate at the most opportune time in USA history for a truly Democratic Underground?

agree to disagree

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I find it amazing that after all the years of conflict I have endured on DU, [View all] mhatrw Jun 2016 OP

Deal with it. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #1

Did you miss the "agree to disagree" part? Mika Jun 2016 #3

Using images of Muhammad Ali as a reaction gif right now in a tiny internet squabble is pretty tacky Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #4

What the hell are you yapping about? Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #7

Oh I didn't realize it was your sig line. I thought you pasted it there to add punch to your Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #8

Pictures sometimes help people... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #52

Wow ... That Carly Simon song comes to mind ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #76

One assumption that the poster acknowledged means inability to imagine. o.k. merrily Jun 2016 #104

That's easy ... None. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #151

LOL! o.k. nt merrily Jun 2016 #164

You need to look up the word "unity". cui bono Jun 2016 #31

The words "the most inopportune candidate" don't exactly scream unity to me. LonePirate Jun 2016 #114

Says the poster who had made up shit about Bernie in the past. And does not deny it. nt Logical Jun 2016 #41

When people admire dishonesty in their candidate vintx Jun 2016 #67

what an awful thing to say about Hillary. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #92

Yet nowhere near as awful as outright lies that get posted on DU about Bernie daily. merrily Jun 2016 #105

Well, he or she did delete a lot of posts after others started linking to them. merrily Jun 2016 #103

Disgusting response in multiple ways. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #78

Ha! That's great! RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #130

Oh, we all will be dealing with it for some time. JEB Jun 2016 #160

Your choice to leave because the voters chose another candidate nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #2

Thank you, mr/ms obvious. eom Mika Jun 2016 #5

Not what the OP said at all, but whatever. I guess posting stuff like that makes you feel.... merrily Jun 2016 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #121

Guess so. If they derive no benefit of any kind from it, they'd be masochistic to continue, no? merrily Jun 2016 #128

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #6

It isn't "undemocratic" for the voters to democratically choose a different candidate than you. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #11

I'd buy that if she hadn't gotten this far by lying and cheating pengu Jun 2016 #27

Getting more votes than her opponent is not cheating. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #61

It is when you cheat to get the votes pengu Jun 2016 #73

Claiming that the Nevada caucus was "stolen" is a 180-degree reversal of reality. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #74

You're lying pengu Jun 2016 #75

Almost all of the disqualified Bernie delegates didn't even show up. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #79

Spin Spin Spin pengu Jun 2016 #82

Lie Lie Lie Lord Magus Jun 2016 #83

Spin Spin Spin pengu Jun 2016 #84

Kudos ... You were wise to disengage from the discussion ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #77

OMG there really is no hope for some - LiberalElite Jun 2016 #94

Good thing then that the hidden post said nothing like what you imply it said. merrily Jun 2016 #108

It's not a straw man at all. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #112

Yes, it is. Again, the hidden post does not say what you imply or claim. merrily Jun 2016 #117

Nobody is forcing you Green Party/Nader types to post here. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #12

Nor should you. You should be too ashamed to after having pretended to be a Bernie supporter. cui bono Jun 2016 #33

Why do you think he pretended? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #62

Clearly, that seems to be a threshold belief. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #81

No, not unfathomable. Just not true in certain cases. merrily Jun 2016 #115

Have you cleared with Skinner who should and should not post here? merrily Jun 2016 #110

okay, allow me to rephrase: geek tragedy Jun 2016 #113

Remind me what "Naderism" means in 2016 again? merrily Jun 2016 #119

Here is what the message to which I responded now says: geek tragedy Jun 2016 #122

Luck of the draw doesn't change anything in my posts to you. That was not an admin ban, was it? merrily Jun 2016 #125

have you read the TOS? Arguing for people to vote against the Democratic nominee geek tragedy Jun 2016 #129

It's not that hard. However, that is a very different issue from what you posted. merrily Jun 2016 #132

Is it the DU's fault that many more people voted for Hillary over Bernie? What do BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #9

Think about what you just said historian Jun 2016 #10

Years of good natured CONFLICT, not suffering. mhatrw Jun 2016 #15

Read the messages from Hillary supporters on this thread emsimon33 Jun 2016 #13

LMAO. How can any adult believe this nonsense? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #17

There's rigged and there's rigged Armstead Jun 2016 #32

That is very well said. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #44

Nobody owns a party this large. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #69

You're complaints are looking small Armstead Jun 2016 #95

"while also dealing with sexism, racism and other social issues." geek tragedy Jun 2016 #100

Response Armstead Jun 2016 #111

you guys really need to get over the idea that people of color geek tragedy Jun 2016 #120

Walking and chewing gum Armstead Jun 2016 #124

you're offering excuses as to why your side failed to make its argument geek tragedy Jun 2016 #127

It's not one size fits all....It's progressive vs. conservative Armstead Jun 2016 #140

why was Sanders's coalition so much less diverse than Clinton's or Obama's? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #142

Yeah just us straight white boys and no one else Armstead Jun 2016 #146

The numbers are the numbers. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #148

It's not feel good photos -- The numbers are too simplistic Armstead Jun 2016 #149

Sigh, Bernie's campaign and Bernie never once failed. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #150

Respectfully disagree.. When AA posters provided advice to Sanders how to improve outreach emulatorloo Jun 2016 #109

I disagree with the assessment of the tone Armstead Jun 2016 #116

We agree in many many areas. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #137

Enjoy your right wing party that indeed used race to divide people nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #139

I share your perception Armstead. Thanks. eom PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #85

Like you think Clinton is a corporatist, some of us think Sanders is focused on white, middle/upper seabeyond Jun 2016 #88

+1000! G_j Jun 2016 #101

And at least one, if not two had real problems nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #138

There was no rigging. That is outright bullshit. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #18

Of course there was. It's documented and several state's primaries are under investigation. cui bono Jun 2016 #34

No they are not under investigation. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #136

More "whine" than in a Roman Orgy MFM008 Jun 2016 #22

Please explain historian Jun 2016 #53

Mostly I can't, actually. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #56

If every state held a primary instead of a caucus... tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #68

Open primaries when ALL Americans vote she is decimated, period! onecaliberal Jun 2016 #131

That is a lie. Sanders lost 11 out of 15 open primaries. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #134

Why should ALL Americans have a say in who a PARTY's nominee is? tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #147

Because you falsely accuse Clinton of stealing saying Sanders really sits at 75%. Actual facts seabeyond Jun 2016 #86

Maybe part of the problem is the site's name. LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #14

How about Demopublican Overlords? mhatrw Jun 2016 #16

We are Democrats. Apparently you have a problem with that nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #19

DOers, not DUers! nt mhatrw Jun 2016 #20

So is Zell Miller. So was Kim Davis. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #25

Elizabeth Warren was a Republican for several years, and yet progressives are pushing her for VP. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #36

I'm not pushing for Warren as VP AT ALL. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #66

I agree unapatriciated Jun 2016 #152

Hi and NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #154

So is Bernie Sanders. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #47

there are DINOs on the left as well as the right geek tragedy Jun 2016 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #126

Exception vs rule Dem2 Jun 2016 #141

There's no way of knowing what you are since you pretend to be something you're not cui bono Jun 2016 #35

I like it! Might add LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #21

If you don't want to be here, why are you here? YouDig Jun 2016 #29

One IS led to wonder. LOL! Lots of masochistic balderdash being posted recently by the BSers. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #37

Your posts lack all content about the candidate you claim to support, you focus on saying 'BSers' Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #123

Sanders would be "inopprtune" rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #23

Why does it end just because your guy is on the losing end of a primary? OKNancy Jun 2016 #24

Because for the first time in my adult life we have an actual egalitarian progressive to vote for Fumesucker Jun 2016 #30

DU has become boring anymore. It's the SOS, bashing. I'm so fed up with the RKP5637 Jun 2016 #45

Jacpine Radicals would welcome you. Onlaketime Jun 2016 #57

Thanks! I think so too. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #60

Can you imagine what that site will end up like? JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #118

I'm sorry, but I think you are completely wrong. Onlaketime Jun 2016 #155

I'm not going to argue, but I can point out JPR's JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #156

I think Manny is a true progressive democrat Onlaketime Jun 2016 #157

Why is it so difficult to believe that a majority of Dems preferred the longterm Dem in the race? LonePirate Jun 2016 #106

Got it, Bernie supporters aren't real Democrats. Only those who support the Third Way are Demos. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #153

Okey dokey. Just remember, while you were enduring others, they were enduring you too. mahina Jun 2016 #26

It is sad but I am with you. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #28

If Sanders had prepared for this run during his 25 years in the Senate, it would be different. randome Jun 2016 #38

Political Science 101--the BSers need to do a course. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #39

Seriously. randome Jun 2016 #40

A lot of us believe the team is inherently corrupt Fumesucker Jun 2016 #42

Clinton doesn't move me, either. She isn't as natural as Obama. randome Jun 2016 #48

such drama Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #43

This is no different from 2008. Vinca Jun 2016 #49

I don't remember du backing a candidate from the get go in 2008. peace13 Jun 2016 #51

I was a moderator Puglover Jun 2016 #72

We didn't. We fought like hell. Just like this year. Vinca Jun 2016 #145

Things change. The US has become an idiocracy. Zorra Jun 2016 #50

This shit right here ! ^^^^^^^^ vintx Jun 2016 #70

Yes. I haven't changed. DO and the Democratic party have moved right. nt mhatrw Jun 2016 #97

Yep. An amazing, unexpected chance to actually turn this failing nation around... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #54

This nation will surely get "turned around" if the BoB mentality helps Trump get elected. eom tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #71

Another web site for non right wingers will appear. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #55

Actually, it already has. 99Forever Jun 2016 #58

"after all the years of conflict I have endured on DU" betsuni Jun 2016 #59

"Underground" implied fighting back. rickford66 Jun 2016 #63

The Right Wing just decided to buy the Democratic Party... Yurovsky Jun 2016 #65

That is something when Sanders base is bagger, Libertarians, Republicans. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #90

You're an employed engineer comparing yourself to those living in poverty? Seriously? bettyellen Jun 2016 #98

Don't be stupid. rickford66 Jun 2016 #133

Stupid is thinking the "boss does stupid things" is somehow as bad as having less opportunity and bettyellen Jun 2016 #158

You don't understand what I meant so forget it. rickford66 Jun 2016 #161

I got it, alright. It was a ridiculous analogy, period. bettyellen Jun 2016 #162

Think twice about what? rickford66 Jun 2016 #163

Comparing a well compensated employee who's boss is dumb to people bettyellen Jun 2016 #165

and so begins the collective epic pout bigtree Jun 2016 #80

Might I suggest you trash GD. P? NCTraveler Jun 2016 #87

That works btw. I did with 2008 and I was an Obama supporter. It did help. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #91

It IS strange. Octafish Jun 2016 #89

The best candidate won. baldguy Jun 2016 #93

yeah and, he is sexy, too! Hiraeth Jun 2016 #144

Based on polls, crowds, visible signs of support, I have concluded that the primary has been stolen reformist2 Jun 2016 #96

No there ISN'T a certain point where crowd sizes and bumber stickers become indicative of votes. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #135

She choose not to hold huge rallies, so nope.... You won't see a lot of memes either. But there is bettyellen Jun 2016 #159

With you in Spirit. The biggest opportunity in our lifetime has just floated down the river. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #99

In a free, democratic society, people can disagree.,55% to 60% disagree with you. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #102

such is the nature of a democracy - you often lose to a majority that sees things differently DrDan Jun 2016 #143

Me too. lostnfound Jun 2016 #166