2016 Postmortem

nadinbrzezinski

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21. It will happen when enough pressure is put from the streets

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:19 PM

Jun 2016

Because we had a democratic house and senate in 2008 and the blue dogs, like good neoliberals that they are, fought it.

The country has been heading towards something ugly for over 30 years. So try that with people who still believe in the voting faerie. Power concedes nothing.

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Here is my argument for party unity. All the things Bernie calls for have to be fought for and won [View all] upaloopa Jun 2016 OP

Bingo. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

I honestly think that in a few days Merryland Jun 2016 #2

I honestly don't think the Sanders will be indicted for their actions at Burlington..... NCTraveler Jun 2016 #7

Great post! redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #3

After months of "no we can't" I find it hard to believe a word you say. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #4

Do you think Hillary would veto progressive legislation that Bernie got through congress? YouDig Jun 2016 #6

No. But pressure senate friends to kill it or amend it to death: that would be consistent with Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #10

You mean the record of voting with Bernie 93% of the time? That record? YouDig Jun 2016 #13

No, the record that includes DOMA, DADT, TPP, TTIP, fracking, IWR, Libya, and Syria. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #14

So you want to ignore the 93% of the votes they agree on to push a false narrative. YouDig Jun 2016 #17

Clinton shares over 90% of her votes with ANY Democratic senator. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #23

That's not true, but then "not true" from a Berner is hardly surprising, is it? YouDig Jun 2016 #24

So no response on substance then? How typical of a Hill-bully. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #25

I did respond. You flat-out lied. Any evidence to back that 90% thing? Didn't think so. YouDig Jun 2016 #29

congressional records. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #41

Congressional records don't support your lie. YouDig Jun 2016 #43

Complaining about a lack of substance while mythology Jun 2016 #47

Gish Gallop alert!! JoePhilly Jun 2016 #32

I would be very surprised if you get a response. auntpurl Jun 2016 #33

+1 Lucinda Jun 2016 #40

I'm not surprised to see straight moderates fail to understand what it felt like to have Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #49

Clinton supported (and was married to ) the president who signed DOMA and DADT. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #42

Once again ... JoePhilly Jun 2016 #50

I appreciate this post. n/t yodermon Jun 2016 #5

K&R nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #8

Need big coattails to flip Congress lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #9

That's still Clinton mythology Jun 2016 #48

I think that's a very helpful post for this site. David__77 Jun 2016 #11

He should have been doing that during his past 25 years in the Senate. randome Jun 2016 #12

Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda libdem4life Jun 2016 #26

...corrected... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #15

Thanks! I hope he can do that! tandot Jun 2016 #16

I honestly LIKE that. Keeps the fire on Hillary to stay left. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #18

none of the things that we believe should happen will happen with a president who is fighting Doctor_J Jun 2016 #19

Here's the error in your analysis jeff47 Jun 2016 #20

Here's the error on your post puffy socks Jun 2016 #53

And that requires not talking about single-payer AND public option because.........? jeff47 Jun 2016 #54

Yes they did need a super majority puffy socks Jun 2016 #55

Reading. You need to try doing it sometime. jeff47 Jun 2016 #58

It will happen when enough pressure is put from the streets nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #21

If Sanders was serious, he would start grassroot, local and filling in those spots, working up. seabeyond Jun 2016 #22

Keep up listening to other people libdem4life Jun 2016 #28

Seriously? I started with thoughts that if Sanders serious about a revolution he would start with seabeyond Jun 2016 #31

Actually, you are right. libdem4life Jun 2016 #34

No he did not. He did speeches and gained followers who couldn't be bothered to vote. seabeyond Jun 2016 #35

I think you mean he didn't do it the way you think he should have. libdem4life Jun 2016 #36

We will see, and there is that possibility, but it actually means doing the work too, seabeyond Jun 2016 #38

I agree. We still have to do the work. libdem4life Jun 2016 #39

Oregon sure as shit voted. For Bernie. Big margin. Closed Primary. We give our electoral votes to Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #45

Seriously? Lol. Beyond the fact it was interesting information, I am hardly responsible for the seabeyond Jun 2016 #51

Right....like during the Obama years vi5 Jun 2016 #27

Funny, I can make the OPPOSITE argument very easily. basselope Jun 2016 #30

Absolutely, even if his supporters are not ready to donate to Hillary, more of their $27 donations anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #37

The problem here is this. I just now read another thread in which you had this post hidden: Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #44

I don't have to like the guy or his followers for us to work together upaloopa Jun 2016 #52

No party unity with Hillary! PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #46

Hillary and Bernie will be united by November bigwillq Jun 2016 #56

except we've already been told they're off the table azurnoir Jun 2016 #57