2016 Postmortem

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Hey! Maybe if we vote for Trump, things will get really bad... brooklynite Jun 2016 #1

The Susan Sarandon School of Political Science. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #5

She drove off that cliff on Thelma and Louise and that was all she wrote. barrow-wight Jun 2016 #31

Ive had this argument several times with people. Baobab Jun 2016 #39

Exactly Carolina Jun 2016 #44

.+1 840high Jun 2016 #78

I'm not sure they ought to take the money. grasswire Jun 2016 #130

I simply don't believe anyone who says they know a Bernie supporter who will vote for Trump. JimDandy Jun 2016 #115

Sorry, but I had 2 complete strangers zalinda Jun 2016 #123

What my post was implying is that they were never real Bernie supporters in the first place. JimDandy Jun 2016 #125

exactly still_one Jun 2016 #132

chaos in the Middle East, such as we have thanks to HRC's regime change in Libya? amborin Jun 2016 #7

Exactly. We know we'll have more wars with Hillary. CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #30

I won't vote for Trump or other GOP or third party and may or may not vote for Hillary Clinton. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #119

DU is for people who vote for democratic party candidates, not advocates who want trump nt msongs Jun 2016 #2

I don't think Yves is posting here. Are you saying otherwise? What is her handle? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #4

DU is for people who support democratic principles amborin Jun 2016 #6

And trump supports those? barrow-wight Jun 2016 #32

Statistically, a vote for Hillary in the Primary is a vote for Trump in the GE. Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #67

Exactly amborin Jun 2016 #86

It's also for people who support progressive politics, which are at odds with Hillary Doctor_J Jun 2016 #19

Yup Baobab Jun 2016 #48

she's the antithesis of progressive politics amborin Jun 2016 #62

Interesting angrychair Jun 2016 #20

Read? Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #73

I mean seriously angrychair Jun 2016 #74

... Well, come on, where's the fast buck Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #77

Bernie is more of a real D/democrat Carolina Jun 2016 #45

I thought it was for people who believe unshakeably in democracy and democratic values Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #85

My vote is for democratic establishment.com. Nt azmom Jun 2016 #101

you're right, never even thought of that one. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #107

You do know that that Skinner, or David Allen, owner of DU azmom Jun 2016 #110

I didn't know that. I wonder why he picked the wrong name, then. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #114

My understanding is, that this place came to be because azmom Jun 2016 #116

the establishment is trickly-down, makes many feel a little safer so they let its Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #121

"They can no longer abuse progressives". But they tell us this is like any other election cyle... Skwmom Jun 2016 #3

I'm going to rec this but I am really surprised that she knows Bernie supporters who will vote Trump Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #8

I'm not surprised a bit. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #87

Well, I am a member of Bernie or Bust and their is very little strategical talk about voting for Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #89

I still think Bernie is going to be President. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #97

Good for you. I really don't think about it one way or another. A Brand New Congress Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #99

yes, that's the boat I want to keep sailing on.. find the wind, and stay with the wind. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #108

I do too Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #127

It's hard for you to disagree with voting for Trump over Clinton? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #129

Ah, yes, burn it down to save it. One of the most useless, narcissistic concepts in modern politics TwilightZone Jun 2016 #9

It's the "if my hut's getting burnt down so is yours" Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #13

^^^This^^^ cliffordu Jun 2016 #37

Exactly. pacalo Jun 2016 #60

Done! azmom Jun 2016 #102

More like the abused partner rationalizing, "I have to keep taking this shit because I have Doctor_J Jun 2016 #49

The best alternative is to write-in Bernie if Hillary is the Dem candidate. As time passes there floriduck Jun 2016 #54

Why do we need change in the Democratic Party? bvar22 Jun 2016 #10

^== WOW! Great Job! IdaBriggs Jun 2016 #18

Yes indeed! Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #61

Great job! azmom Jun 2016 #103

Good research Bvar22 trudyco Jun 2016 #25

Thank you. vintx Jun 2016 #27

Right on the mark. Agony Jun 2016 #36

Awesome! Should be its own OP. cliffordu Jun 2016 #38

K&R, double WOW, bvar22 Carolina Jun 2016 #46

We're not worthy! dchill Jun 2016 #55

yes, just a few of the reasons why the 99% has had it with being shafted amborin Jun 2016 #65

.that^ 840high Jun 2016 #79

Excellent post. deathrind Jun 2016 #109

Thank you this is wonderful work! Seeinghope Jun 2016 #111

Excellent post! Raster Jun 2016 #113

Thanks Bvar22. We need change in the Democratic party. Time is growing late eom. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #120

One thing I can promise you, I will Not vote for Trump. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #11

Me neither. Not in a million years. TransitJohn Jun 2016 #23

No doubt, Hillary has huge problems Jarqui Jun 2016 #12

Most important line for me pdsimdars Jun 2016 #14

And I can just hear trump now... vintx Jun 2016 #29

I imagine him blathering wildly for 4 years while the rest of the govt focuses on keeping him happy Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #91

...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #80

TPP, TTIP, horrible for workers, and for everyone who reads the fine print amborin Jun 2016 #88

+1 azmom Jun 2016 #104

The "smartest progressives" she knows are fucking morons. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2016 #15

She isn't advicating voting for him, just explaining how many Democrats are so sick of the neolibera Baobab Jun 2016 #40

I didn't say she was advocating for him, just that her progressive friends are NOT smart. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2016 #50

You think its wise to endorse the WTO scheme that seems to frame the US as having a huge debt to Baobab Jun 2016 #64

IS it "Their turn" ? (The developing countries) to have those jobs? Baobab Jun 2016 #69

I guess you know that's merely a subjective opinion, even if lots of people find it bewildering Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #96

So, to remain 'trapped' is smart? Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #75

Anyone who calls themselves liberals/progressives geek tragedy Jun 2016 #128

After over twenty years of DLC/Third Way/New Dem policy betrayals.... tokenlib Jun 2016 #83

If my readers are representative, Clinton and the Democratic Party are about to have a long-overdue Skwmom Jun 2016 #16

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #17

Look, Hillary can't make them love her if they won't. There is a song for this. So, vote your Jitter65 Jun 2016 #21

Bernie supporters are the same as ISIS? TransitJohn Jun 2016 #24

Yeah that is literally the kind of shit Rush Limbaugh pulls out of his ass. Agony Jun 2016 #34

Feel the unity. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2016 #56

Those that would vote for Trump, there's a fair argument there. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #133

Living in a bubble must be nice because if you haven't been aware of the degradation of the Seeinghope Jun 2016 #118

This ^^^ ybbor Jun 2016 #122

This is well-written and well thought-out, and it does reflect the thinking on Blue Meany Jun 2016 #22

Good point. How does choosing between two evils offer an opportunity to do good? BillZBubb Jun 2016 #28

drumpf s unknown? his slimy bizness has a slime trail. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #26

Oxymoron: smart progressive voting for Trump onenote Jun 2016 #33

Agreed. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #42

Another "people I know" anecdotal OpEd... Tarc Jun 2016 #35

Do you want a list of real-life people? Because I know many that will do exactly this. reformist2 Jun 2016 #41

Another "people I know" anecdotal DU Post... Tarc Jun 2016 #43

So do I. 840high Jun 2016 #81

I wouldn't trust it as far as I can throw it Tarc Jun 2016 #98

This person writes for Naked Capitalism Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #93

"Some of the Smartest Progressives" he knows sound dumb as f*ck if they would rather have Trump. Beacool Jun 2016 #47

That is RIDICULOUS MFM008 Jun 2016 #51

Sure tandot Jun 2016 #52

Some of the "smartest" progressives . . . madamesilverspurs Jun 2016 #53

it's what we've been saying for years... 2banon Jun 2016 #57

Correction: he's surrounded by stupid people Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #58

... Agschmid Jun 2016 #59

So jerry brown is NOT a progressive because he backs fracking, but somebody who votes for Trump alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #63

there's much more about Jerry Brown that's anti-progressive besides fracking amborin Jun 2016 #66

But somebody who votes for Trump might be a progressive? alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #70

Its out of his hands because of those damn back room deals, so hes covering the ass of the #$%&* Baobab Jun 2016 #71

Brown is cover -story creating for the dishonest Baobab Jun 2016 #72

Jesus Fucking Christ, 57 recs to vote Trump over Clinton. joshcryer Jun 2016 #68

A demonstration of profound Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #82

Yeah, OK. joshcryer Jun 2016 #95

The recs are not for Trump. They are for the article's explanation of how people feel @ the party .. ebayfool Jun 2016 #84

The article is full of shit. joshcryer Jun 2016 #94

In YOUR opinion. Others do not agree. But no response to the issue of conflating recs to... ebayfool Jun 2016 #100

No, the article is objectively wrong. joshcryer Jun 2016 #105

That's all you got out of that? ebayfool Jun 2016 #112

94 have decloaked thus far (jury results) geek tragedy Jun 2016 #134

No true "progressive" is going to vote for the racist Trump. I guess Berners are a different breed. Hoyt Jun 2016 #76

Pretty much Number23 Jun 2016 #124

She writes for naked Capitalism Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #90

It's a liberal blog about exploitation of workers and students. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #131

Rec'd for the term "Vichy Left" dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #92

Gnawin' on it... Jack Bone Jun 2016 #106

Oh yay! Rightwing outlet Politico publishes opinion of lady from Goldman-Sachs struggle4progress Jun 2016 #117

No intelligent progressive would vote for Trump over Clinton geek tragedy Jun 2016 #126