2016 Postmortem

Jack Bone

(2,032 posts) Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:32 PM Jun 2016

This is a horrible speech from our "presumptive" nominee. [View all]

She's all over the place, no common thread, other than "he's bad...so I must be good"

the "I've went toe-to-toe with Russia and China" is some major chest pounding hawkish crap that's worthy of W. Bush's speech writers.

no vision, no call to action...just a bunch of rehash and finger pointing.

We are much bigger than that! we're supposed to be Democrats!!

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This is a horrible speech from our "presumptive" nominee. [View all] Jack Bone Jun 2016 OP

Chalk with his up another reason why I can't..... onecaliberal Jun 2016 #1

It was a god awful speech. No wonder she doesn't give press conferences. JimDandy Jun 2016 #54

I thought the speech was great. She hit all the points against Trump she needed. Now she needs Jitter65 Jun 2016 #107

so why is she claiming to? nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #126

No, Here's WHY She Refuses To Give Press Conferences... It's That Little Thing Called "fibbing...." CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #214

yeah the Chuck Todd quote blew me away!! Jack Bone Jun 2016 #215

Any instructions for installing a secure server? Downwinder Jun 2016 #2

nope...not yet...but she's still going...nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #6

Thought she would tout her experience. Downwinder Jun 2016 #36

lol, love your profile picture. n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #170

Just thought of this, but did you know that somehow, mysteriously ALL of her email from pdsimdars Jun 2016 #57

I shut down my server when the hard disk crashed. Downwinder Jun 2016 #140

Hard to track intelligent speech with your fingers in your ears, isn't it? Lalalala Hekate Jun 2016 #3

While we are at it, did you listen to Bernie's press conference this morning. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #66

This was REAL news... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #148

And the stupid media. All they wanted to talk about was if he could win CA jillan Jun 2016 #189

+10000 nt riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #216

If only Aerows Jun 2016 #208

Yeah she's attacking Republicans CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #4

She needs a rationale other than she is not Trump Mass Jun 2016 #13

Righhhhhhht CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #15

" I have not heard the speech" So let me shit on it anyway MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #18

Except I did not express an opinion. But, feel free to make things up. Mass Jun 2016 #19

Are you mad? "but I think this is what the OP is saying and I subscribe to that." MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #26

I susbcribe that she needs a rationale. Dont you? Mass Jun 2016 #28

Countering his criticism? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #68

" I am not the insane guy" will literally be more than enough... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #111

What was that? You haven't heard the speech and you subscribe to that? Care to re-phrase? brush Jun 2016 #37

Kinda like how Bernie's rationale is just "I'm not her" ? Tarc Jun 2016 #49

How could anyone who listens to Bernie say that? JDPriestly Jun 2016 #69

Try to make statements that correspond to objective reality. senz Jun 2016 #188

Nicely done! Scuba Jun 2016 #210

Yup. Shadowflash Jun 2016 #59

What is she offering? 840high Jun 2016 #30

More war Doctor_J Jun 2016 #88

Of course. 840high Jun 2016 #99

She seems to say that she would continue to take the neocon position in the Middle East amandabeech Jun 2016 #65

Like I said CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #74

Did you hear her talk about her Middle Eastern policy? amandabeech Jun 2016 #114

Yes, I'm sure you believe all of that. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #120

Love and kisses!!! amandabeech Jun 2016 #128

I liked what I heard of her speech. Ilsa Jun 2016 #158

Thank you for your vote, and your sensible approach. auntpurl Jun 2016 #169

Bernie attacks Trump at every rally. The Bernie crowd boos Trump, too. senz Jun 2016 #187

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #212

Really? I think she's doing a great job! n/t Chemisse Jun 2016 #5

yeah...at telling us trumps bad...we know that already..nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #12

It's called GE campaigning. She's talking to more than Sanders supporters on DU. brush Jun 2016 #41

Yes we do. Chemisse Jun 2016 #145

Ok, Bernie's up next. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #7

No shit... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #23

"I won't start stupid wars" CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #43

yep Schema Thing Jun 2016 #73

Bingo Carolina Jun 2016 #96

But just how in the world are General Dynamics or Blackwater .... Yurovsky Jun 2016 #164

Here is his press conference on the environment this morning. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #71

This is actually one of her strongest moments of the campaign. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #8

Huh?? I'm still watching now... k8conant Jun 2016 #47

LOL madokie Jun 2016 #127

if that's all she's got. smiley Jun 2016 #211

If she gets into a 'tit for tat' war with Trump, she loses by default AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #9

And can't be as good as him at being him. CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #45

She just needs to avoid the "Me too!" AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #48

yep I tuned in and she was doing a verbal rerun of her 3am anti-Obama ad only the name was changed azurnoir Jun 2016 #10

nice comparison...i didn't see that... Jack Bone Jun 2016 #17

did you plug your ears or take a break for more ...... azurnoir Jun 2016 #46

This reminds me so much of the daisy girl ad passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #75

I'm so glad Obama's answering the phone and not Clinton. senz Jun 2016 #190

That photo of her with Bush makes LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #11

.that^ 840high Jun 2016 #33

Right. Her Libya policy encouraged ISIS. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #77

I think her ME decisions bear some responsibility for the refugee crisis. senz Jun 2016 #192

You should contribute senz Jun 2016 #191

I did! LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #194

Well thank you! I'll check it out. senz Jun 2016 #196

Lol. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #14

Sanders has a foreign policy speech coming up then? brooklynite Jun 2016 #16

Here is his press conference on the environment from this morning. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #80

Thank you. findrskeep Jun 2016 #122

Hope he will. He has one of the most rational, well thought-out views senz Jun 2016 #193

Bernie's Foreign Policy? redstateblues Jun 2016 #20

I'm not sure how well she dealt with Russia ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #21

15 more days nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #22

Until what? jack_krass Jun 2016 #38

until they start enforcing the rule that people here have to support the Democratic geek tragedy Jun 2016 #42

There is no such rule. Those who do not support Clinton simply cannot say so JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #63

I think this poster fantasizes about "turning in" thought criminals and jack_krass Jun 2016 #97

You might be right Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #106

It's the "Fifteen days and then you WILL PAY FOR YOUR INSOLENCE" crowd Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #173

Most of them seem to. The authoritarian mindset. senz Jun 2016 #198

So they'll compromise their principles for fear of losing their posting privileges?... SidDithers Jun 2016 #149

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #156

Or they can just not comment on things that might get them in trouble....as i intend to do. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #159

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #89

Did you read the TOS when you registered? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #93

Nobody here, except a few who are trollls, would disagree... jack_krass Jun 2016 #101

"Hillary for Prison 2016" type of posts will be a thing of the past. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #103

Never seen anything like that here jack_krass Jun 2016 #110

Fox News is a valid source of info. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #138

LOL. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #146

LOL Marr Jun 2016 #141

You gave the HRC General Election campaign slogan: angrychair Jun 2016 #24

A little long for bumper stickers. LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #56

LOL, thats a keeper madokie Jun 2016 #130

Brilliant! GreenPartyVoter Jun 2016 #143

!!! pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #184

Fifteen more days DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #25

This was constructive criticism...I didn't post the sarcasm emoji. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #34

Given the image in your footer, you are not capable of fair, constructive criticism. LonePirate Jun 2016 #115

I used to criticize Bush...we ALL did....I hold Hillary to the same standards. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #123

Wait! You find the image of Hillary with Bush unfair? How so? panader0 Jun 2016 #166

Reading comprehension seems to be a lost skill nowadays. LonePirate Jun 2016 #171

My reading comprehension is just fine. panader0 Jun 2016 #172

Your reply title and first sentence are completely contradictory. LonePirate Jun 2016 #174

Wow, you're really good at counting jack_krass Jun 2016 #70

You are really good ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #221

It's going to be a boring place here. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #81

Waving good bye to votes in November if Camp Clinton gets too high handed? Armstead Jun 2016 #105

You give my keyboard activism way too much credit. I don't believe I influence anybody. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #108

They know they're not alone....and I realize none of us has any real influence but... Armstead Jun 2016 #112

Fifteen more days of facts. Then you can enter la la land senz Jun 2016 #195

Do you always talk such egregious codswallop? Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #27

I didn't watch - no interest in her. 840high Jun 2016 #29

why post then? redstateblues Jun 2016 #53

why not? 840high Jun 2016 #98

I'd suppose Bernie's foreign policy speech would have something to do with "billionaires" and the 1% qdouble Jun 2016 #31

Bernie's a one trick pony CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #62

Bernie goes after Trump at every rally senz Jun 2016 #197

I enjoyed the cybersecurity part. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #32

. haikugal Jun 2016 #39

Pass the word... JimDandy Jun 2016 #61

Going after Trump and making sense is going to piss a select group off. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #35

I'd agree with you....had she made any sense, Jack Bone Jun 2016 #40

^^^^^^^^^^ Peacetrain Jun 2016 #44

Great Speech! jzodda Jun 2016 #50

I am waiting for the full text to be released nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #51

maybe it "reads" better... Jack Bone Jun 2016 #78

We just do that. When she had her major mass incarceration speech nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #82

Sometimes it's tough to get transcripts from The Clintons ;) Jack Bone Jun 2016 #182

Hillary will outline why exactly why Trump will be a disaster, put him on the defensive Tarc Jun 2016 #52

"Personalize it, attack the man himself...." You want an insult competition with Trump?!? n/t ieoeja Jun 2016 #100

Not in the "he's a jerk", he's a loser" etc, no... that's his shtick Tarc Jun 2016 #142

That is white noise at this point angrychair Jun 2016 #165

Great speech- She looked very Presidential redstateblues Jun 2016 #55

Thanks for the constructive criticism Mosby Jun 2016 #58

Please post a link to "this" speech. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #60

What do you want her to say? MFM008 Jun 2016 #64

I thought she was effective and called out Trump, and gave the speech to fire up the media to braddy Jun 2016 #67

That's useful. Good. floppyboo Jun 2016 #163

Your agenda is obvious. It was a good speech. seabeyond Jun 2016 #72

not really a speech...but a good series of 5 sec. zingers. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #86

So people here are upset Hillary went after Trump MattP Jun 2016 #76

Yes. Telling, isn't it. auntpurl Jun 2016 #132

Bernie goes after Trump at every rally. senz Jun 2016 #199

me me me plus some dickwaving elehhhhna Jun 2016 #79

Is there a transcript I could read? Xyzse Jun 2016 #83

The disconnect is amusing in that she/they consider foreign policy her strength, AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #84

What area of the world is better off after HRC has been involved? stillwaiting Jun 2016 #139

^^^ FACTS ^^^ senz Jun 2016 #200

She lost me when she said the US "stood up" to foreign countries that Purveyor Jun 2016 #85

+1,000,000,000 vintx Jun 2016 #109

I'm with you. amandabeech Jun 2016 #118

Such a good point. senz Jun 2016 #202

That was a damn good speech. A President in the making!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! asuhornets Jun 2016 #87

I'm not jealous...that wasn't a speech! @ best it was an address... Jack Bone Jun 2016 #116

The highlights: Doctor_J Jun 2016 #90

Where did she ever imply or say #2? qdouble Jun 2016 #134

Balderdash! MineralMan Jun 2016 #91

WOW... I'm a big Bernie supporter... WiffenPoof Jun 2016 #92

Thank you for saying so. auntpurl Jun 2016 #133

I thought she destroyed trump. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #94

This is who we have become. The party of FDR is now the party of "hey, at least we're not Trump" Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jun 2016 #104

one way of herding cats reddread Jun 2016 #119

I know cats. If they don't like the cat food your serving, they ain't coming to the table. Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #125

BS'ers have no problem with criticizing Hillary or other democrats qdouble Jun 2016 #136

This ISN'T about Trump... Jack Bone Jun 2016 #176

Sigh. Bernie attacks Trump at every rally senz Jun 2016 #203

I love it...sanders supporters criticizing our nominees speech beachbumbob Jun 2016 #102

Right? NT seabeyond Jun 2016 #150

Bitter and sad KingFlorez Jun 2016 #113

So does Clinton want to show us she's tougher than Trump by going to war against Russia or China? imagine2015 Jun 2016 #117

This is why some of us are not looking forward to a Clinton Presidency. amandabeech Jun 2016 #121

And this is why many of us ignore what Sanders supporters have to say, to get this interpretation of seabeyond Jun 2016 #151

She said a lot of things about Trump, most of which I agree with. amandabeech Jun 2016 #162

Where did she ever imply or say we should go to war with Russia or China? qdouble Jun 2016 #137

To think that the world would have been a safer place if only truedelphi Jun 2016 #154

Now you're getting down to what is really wrong. senz Jun 2016 #204

Link? emulatorloo Jun 2016 #155

We are bigger than that madokie Jun 2016 #124

Dream on. One day you will awaken and it will all be over. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #129

I sure hope so...because if today's speech Jack Bone Jun 2016 #177

I'm stunned at how she can say findrskeep Jun 2016 #131

No wonder she has no desire to debate Bernie Sanders... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #135

Clinton has kicked his ass a number of times. She is done with him and has moved on. seabeyond Jun 2016 #153

Apparently, she hasn't... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #157

She is done because she won, and the focus is Trump. Not tough here. seabeyond Jun 2016 #160

No... That wouldn't be tough for you. MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #161

IT WAS A GREAT SPEECH Justice Jun 2016 #144

it's sad that you settle for that being a speech. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #147

Not a Democrat. Maedhros Jun 2016 #178

I'm a Democrat. senz Jun 2016 #205

I watched it. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #152

She doesnt give a chit laserhaas Jun 2016 #167

Gee I see she hit a homerun and you say it was horrible. n/t doc03 Jun 2016 #168

Far from a home run... Jack Bone Jun 2016 #175

I wish someone in the GOP could have taken Trump down like this.... LAS14 Jun 2016 #179

i guess most you here didn't listen to her speech. nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #180

I heard part of that today and my jaw dropped. glinda Jun 2016 #181

She'll go 'toe-to-toe with Russia and China', but runs from the IG, her commitment to debate BS AzDar Jun 2016 #183

LOL! nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #209

Remind me again what Democratic and Progressive ideals she holds other than coyote Jun 2016 #185

I admire your willingness to listen to that crap, Jack senz Jun 2016 #186

thank you...thank you very much! nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #218

It was a great speech, but I can see how that would upset some people here. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #201

For the last time: Bernie attacks Trump at every single rally. senz Jun 2016 #206

What's upsetting is that she tried to pass that off as a speech! nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #207

FFS, is this a stupid post! You scare me, and will soon be gone thank goodness. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #213

I've been here a long time...I'm not going anywhere... Jack Bone Jun 2016 #217

Yea, you will be gone shortly, i doubt you can follow the rules. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #219

this will be my 4th GE here.. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #220

Lol, 1700 posts! Logical Jun 2016 #225

lost my count w/ name change back in '08 Jack Bone Jun 2016 #228

Not one word about secure server. B Calm Jun 2016 #222

not that I heard...still waiting for the transcript ;) Jack Bone Jun 2016 #223

I think that will be Trump's October Surprise! B Calm Jun 2016 #224

I think you may be right nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #227

Great speech, said a lot of things which should be listened and then judge Trump Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #226