2016 Postmortem

Triana

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47. According to the rest of the World (outside the US bubble) . . .

Mon May 30, 2016, 11:53 AM

May 2016

Sanders is SLIGHTLY left of Center and Clinton is well right of Center. So by normal (not US) standards both are 'Center' candidates if you want to blabber about "center". Hillary is a 1960s Republican. Sanders is an FDR-style New Deal Democrat.

I don't give a damn about the D and the R or the party (which I left back in 2001 to be unaffiliated though I always vote the most progressive candidate on the ballot). I don't give a damn what Hillary calls herself or what Sanders calls himself -- or what you call yourself. I'm old enough to know what a REAL Democrat looks like and what a Republican looks like.

Todays "Democrats" are yesterday's Republicans (except Sanders).

Today's Republicans are yesterday's Fascists.

It's where we are.

If you're about the party as you proclaim to be, then you'd support the ONLY Democrat in the race - Sanders.

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I vote for values and not based on labels. My vote can still be earned. [View all] Vote2016 May 2016 OP

Hillary will do no such thing. The winner does not adapt to the loser. Trust Buster May 2016 #1

If she wants any chance of winning the GE, she better. B Calm May 2016 #3

Sorry, adapting to the radical fringe will not win a GE. History shows us as much. Trust Buster May 2016 #4

When you call 46% of the party the "radical fringe," it says something about the size of your tent Attorney in Texas May 2016 #7

I remember a time in DU they would have been labeled as a disrupting B Calm May 2016 #10

I remember a time they would have been clearly seen as the center of the Democratic Party, and those highprincipleswork May 2016 #54

A group that attacks anyone who realistically believes that compromise in a divided government Trust Buster May 2016 #11

"Compromise" is something that happens in negotiation. It is "capitulation" when you adopt your Attorney in Texas May 2016 #16

I assure you that Hillary agrees with me. You can vote for Jill Stein if you want. Trust Buster May 2016 #19

I'll vote for Hillary or not depending on the convention and the platform and the ticket. Period. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #25

I don't think you understand what a platform is. Trust Buster May 2016 #28

Having served on the platform committee,I might have a fair understanding. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #33

Then you should be well aware the the DNC will call for a living wage. They won't assign a specific Trust Buster May 2016 #35

So Hillary was running against the platform when she opposed a $15/hour wage before flip flopping? Attorney in Texas May 2016 #39

She didn't flip flop on the $15/hr wage. She still supports a $12/hr target. But neither the number Trust Buster May 2016 #44

12$ is more than Sanders was pushing for two years ago! 12$ has big support in bettyellen May 2016 #56

"compromise" and DLC centrist bullshit is why we're in this mess Triana May 2016 #40

That's what the Tea Party says about Republicans. That's why our Legislative Branch is in a Trust Buster May 2016 #46

Actual Democrats like Sanders and his supporters are not "Tea Party" Triana May 2016 #50

I've seen his rallies. They're always held in and around college campuses. He fills these students Trust Buster May 2016 #53

That person should " forfeit the right to post anything under the name 'Trust Buster'" - lol! Vote2016 May 2016 #13

Ah, you want to be a DU censor, huh ? Trust Buster May 2016 #20

You're hillarous! If you're a paid troll, you are doing it wrong. You're not supposed to be so funny Vote2016 May 2016 #23

You post nothing but insults and are satisfied that this makes you look smart. It doesn't. Trust Buster May 2016 #24

Smart is a relative quality. I'm smart compared to some (no names, lol!) but less smart than others Vote2016 May 2016 #27

I've yet tò see evidence of that. Trust Buster May 2016 #31

You might be the last one in this tread who hasn't spotted that evidence. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #34

Well, I've been a registered Democrat my whole adult life and I support the Party. Trust Buster May 2016 #38

I pray I don't have to say I told you so. But if she has your attitude B Calm May 2016 #8

That Hillary supporter doesn't get it (many are drawn to a familiar label and a familiar name) Attorney in Texas May 2016 #18

It that what you learned from Obama in 2008? I saw that a real leader will begin to lead without Attorney in Texas May 2016 #5

Apples and Oranges. In 2008, Hillary did not represent the radical fringe. Wake up. Trust Buster May 2016 #6

Everyone's awake. The 46% of the party you refer to as a "radical fringe" will vote in November and Attorney in Texas May 2016 #9

The center will rule. It always has. Sanders is the epitome of the radical fringe. Trust Buster May 2016 #12

On the populist-elitist scale (and the change-status quo scale), Trump is the center, not Hillary. Vote2016 May 2016 #14

That makes no sense. Trust Buster May 2016 #15

I suspected it might be over your head. Not everyone divides politics into left vs. right. Hillary Attorney in Texas May 2016 #21

Trump will be a puppet for the far Right. You don't even know what makes the guy tick. Trust Buster May 2016 #22

Trump picks more fights with the Republican establishment than Hillary does. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #26

Like I said, you don't understand what makes him tick. He released a list of seven nominees Trust Buster May 2016 #29

According to the rest of the World (outside the US bubble) . . . Triana May 2016 #47

It doesn't really matter what the rest of the world thinks. They won't be voting in November. Trust Buster May 2016 #51

Jesus Christ. I hope that is not the attitude of the Clinton campaign Armstead May 2016 #32

^ THIS. n/t Triana May 2016 #48

I'm not confident we're going to see that leadership, but it's cool that you remain optimistic Attorney in Texas May 2016 #2

Meh. They won't even try to earn your vote. And, will blame the left if they lose. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #17

Her acceptance speech would set the tone, for sure. Buns_of_Fire May 2016 #41

She was the world's foremost diplomat as Secretary of State. mac56 May 2016 #30

"I dodged sniperfire to broker peace in Bosnia but mean internet posts shut me down in Philadelphia" Attorney in Texas May 2016 #36

So unless your values coincide with Trump, you'll vote for Hillary. YouDig May 2016 #37

Oh no! When did they eliminate the write-in vote and the Green Party? Vote2016 May 2016 #42

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you wouldn't throw away your vote. YouDig May 2016 #43

For the overwhelming majority of us who don't live in Ohio or Florida, how EXACTLY does voting our Vote2016 May 2016 #52

Nice to see you are that hopeful nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #45

So, the winner should forgo her voters and adopt all of Sanders stuff to be legitimate? A man making seabeyond May 2016 #49

No one is making demands. This is how a leader unites I divided party to win. Presumably Hillary is Vote2016 May 2016 #57

Sanders most certainly making demands. seabeyond May 2016 #58

Sanders is demanding what he is due from the DNC. If you know of demands to Hillary, you must have Vote2016 May 2016 #60

Hillary can embrace whatever she wants, but the rub is that if she takes on a populist bent NorthCarolina May 2016 #55

No one trusts her. She has little to offer. jwirr May 2016 #59