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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Which clinton campaign is more of a train wreck 08 or 16? [View all]HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)14. ...both...
Here's why...
'08 she and her campaign couldn't overcome a 'grassroots' nominee, she thought she learned her lesson and prepared for it in '16
So far she's barely beating Bernie, so her ability to overcome is lacking to a larger degree... bad leadership shown
Now in '16, she's losing against national polling against TRUMP... TRUMP...
If she's so feckless and l;acking against him now, it's only going to get worse as they toss everything and the kitchen sink at the public
Trump 'wins' with PR, and using media against his rivals... he's much better than Clinton at that, she's lost that very large gap she had earlier against him....
So imo it's both, bu the trend is showing '16 will be a larger train wreck
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If she wins the primary, Democrats lose the presidency and she has zero coattails, so she squanders
w4rma
May 2016
#6
Neither candidate will be able to reach 2383 pledged delegates from the remaining primaries
annavictorious
May 2016
#30
16 the year the DNC handed the presidency to Trump by pushing their un-vetted corporate candidate.
B Calm
May 2016
#12
08 because it doesn't get much tackier/craven than when she implied Obama might end up like RFK. nt
m-lekktor
May 2016
#20
That Hillary quote was sick beyond any measure. That alone should had disqualified her from ever
B Calm
May 2016
#24
Actually, she's been running since she left the White House. Few are as calculated as Hill. At
floriduck
May 2016
#27
16 - the investigation this time is worse plus social media is much more pronounced now.
Juicy_Bellows
May 2016
#37