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HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
14. ...both...
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:39 PM
May 2016

Here's why...

'08 she and her campaign couldn't overcome a 'grassroots' nominee, she thought she learned her lesson and prepared for it in '16
So far she's barely beating Bernie, so her ability to overcome is lacking to a larger degree... bad leadership shown

Now in '16, she's losing against national polling against TRUMP... TRUMP...
If she's so feckless and l;acking against him now, it's only going to get worse as they toss everything and the kitchen sink at the public

Trump 'wins' with PR, and using media against his rivals... he's much better than Clinton at that, she's lost that very large gap she had earlier against him....

So imo it's both, bu the trend is showing '16 will be a larger train wreck

Well, Clinton is WINNING in 2016... brooklynite May 2016 #1
If she wins the primary, Democrats lose the presidency and she has zero coattails, so she squanders w4rma May 2016 #6
In 2016, she's about to win the Dem nomination... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #2
Counting chickens before they hatch SwampG8r May 2016 #4
Notice... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #3
What does that say for Sanders? nt onehandle May 2016 #18
I'm a Sanders supporter, and I find your OP tasteless. RiverNoord May 2016 #5
2008, severely underestimated the caucuses. joshcryer May 2016 #7
Except for all her lies, yes. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #11
The only wreck was caused by running over Bernie's campaign. CrowCityDem May 2016 #9
In 2008 she lost jamese777 May 2016 #10
Nice... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #13
Hillary: 1771 pledged delegates. Bernie: 1487 pledged delegates senz May 2016 #22
Neither candidate will be able to reach 2383 pledged delegates from the remaining primaries annavictorious May 2016 #30
16 the year the DNC handed the presidency to Trump by pushing their un-vetted corporate candidate. B Calm May 2016 #12
Refund jamese777 May 2016 #16
Funny how there's outliers in polling ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #28
Correction: ThirdWayToTheHighway May 2016 #26
...both... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #14
Neither mythology May 2016 #15
shes looking at a tiebreaker. Skink May 2016 #17
16 is more painful to watch at this point... n/t Mohammed_Lee May 2016 #19
08 because it doesn't get much tackier/craven than when she implied Obama might end up like RFK. nt m-lekktor May 2016 #20
That Hillary quote was sick beyond any measure. That alone should had disqualified her from ever B Calm May 2016 #24
2016 karynnj May 2016 #21
Clinton has a longer history of failure in 2016. senz May 2016 #23
both of them equally. she should have had this mess figure out by now okieinpain May 2016 #25
Actually, she's been running since she left the White House. Few are as calculated as Hill. At floriduck May 2016 #27
These passive aggressive OPs are getting annoying. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #29
She lost in '08, but at least not subject of FBI criminal investigation. HooptieWagon May 2016 #31
Impeached? jamese777 May 2016 #32
That's for removal from office on impeachment charges. HooptieWagon May 2016 #33
Yes I Know jamese777 May 2016 #34
First of all, it neuters the president. HooptieWagon May 2016 #35
Bill Clinton jamese777 May 2016 #36
41 to 1 jamese777 May 2016 #39
16 - the investigation this time is worse plus social media is much more pronounced now. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #37
Which of your spouses did you beat more severely? Garrett78 May 2016 #38
16. bigwillq May 2016 #40
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