2016 Postmortem

Warren DeMontague

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44. It was insulting/dismissing Millennials, which unfortunately has been a trend from the Hillary side.

Tue May 24, 2016, 04:50 PM

May 2016

And not just Steinem- Madeleine Albright, DWS, etc have done it, too. (Not to mention a good number of posters here.)

If the Steinem comment had happened in a vacuum, I think it would be one thing, but it didn't.

It has been a kind almost reflexive and knee-jerk get off my lawnitude, and it's counterproductive- because for all the "they never vote" noise, insulting them is one way to ensure they don't.

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Boxer did not "flip the bird" or say she "feared for her life", Steinem never called women "sluts" [View all] bettyellen May 2016 OP

Sure, "feared for her safety" is completely different. Dawgs May 2016 #1

by a large order of magnitude. The bird flipping lies are all over GDP. No lie too big or small... bettyellen May 2016 #2

Regardless what you think, she didn't fear for her life or her safety. Dawgs May 2016 #5

The people who said she flipped the bird can be proven as liars. People claiming to know her state bettyellen May 2016 #12

How can you tell what she thinks? hrmjustin May 2016 #15

It would be easy to assume that if she didnt show fear, she didnt have any. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #53

That was apparent in the video..if anything she was trolling the people who were rightfully haikugal May 2016 #65

Hahahaha! Completely pantsed the OP! Yurovsky May 2016 #4

Yea it was soon hilarious Ohioblue22 May 2016 #47

Boxer flipped the bird and said she feared for her safety AgingAmerican May 2016 #3

Nope, she unmistakably wagged her index finger. Easily seen in the pics. bettyellen May 2016 #6

She flipped off the audience AgingAmerican May 2016 #8

The pictures show she did not- unless she has seven fingers. bettyellen May 2016 #14

Here's the photo adjusted in Photoshop to show things more clearly Bob41213 May 2016 #31

Middle fingers are located in the middle, not off center like that. Sorry to disappoint you... bettyellen May 2016 #35

>Middle fingers are located in the middle, not off center like that< GreatGazoo May 2016 #61

The thing that looks like her last finger (edge of her hand) is someone's head so yes it looks like 2cannan May 2016 #37

This is not Barbara Boxer flipping people off. Sky Masterson May 2016 #7

Yes it is AgingAmerican May 2016 #10

It's clearly the same index finger she had been wagging moments before. bettyellen May 2016 #13

In what country do people hold up their index finger in that manner vintx May 2016 #17

Does an index finger mean "flipping off" or "the bird"- clearly it does not, in America. bettyellen May 2016 #19

I don't blame you for not wanting to answer. vintx May 2016 #21

Bernie wags his finger all day long- but THAT is okay with you. Got it! bettyellen May 2016 #23

Sad. nt vintx May 2016 #42

I think it could be either. Sky Masterson May 2016 #20

Hodor! The three knuckles say it all- as does the fact that she was waving that same index bettyellen May 2016 #25

If you look you will see there short little nub down next to her index finger Autumn May 2016 #22

LOL, nope. You can see three knuckles, which makes it impossible unless she has seven fingers. bettyellen May 2016 #24

Then she has 7 fucking fingers because there is a bent down finger next to her index finger Autumn May 2016 #29

Snopes says you are wrong, and we can all see the three knuckles clearly. It is not MID hand. bettyellen May 2016 #34

You can see two knuckles cleanly on one side of her finger and one on the other Autumn May 2016 #45

Your nonsense has been debunked, have a good day. bettyellen May 2016 #51

no, thats the face everybody else makes when they flip someone off reddread May 2016 #26

Of course she didn't. She did throw a few chairs though. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #9

Ok, what about those mocking kisses she was blowing arikara May 2016 #11

People are often pissed off and scared in the same moment- reactions like that are common. bettyellen May 2016 #16

So you're a psychiatrist now..? Amazing! closeupready May 2016 #38

But it is you guys claiming you can say what was in her head, not me. And yes- people can bettyellen May 2016 #41

Ok ok somebody had fun with photoshop nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #18

This is what Gloria Steinem said: Aerows May 2016 #27

layers of sexism reddread May 2016 #28

It is not calling women sluts or slut shaming them- which is what I have seen repeated here. bettyellen May 2016 #33

I repeated word for word Aerows May 2016 #36

While it was foolish of her, it does not rise to the level of "slut shaming" as was claimed here. bettyellen May 2016 #39

It was insulting/dismissing Millennials, which unfortunately has been a trend from the Hillary side. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #44

That as little to do with what I was saying- about the "slut shaming" crap.... bettyellen May 2016 #48

I think there has been hyperbolic exaggeration from both sides, to be sure. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #55

And all of that is *you* making a value judgment on Aerows May 2016 #52

I am not trying to cast it in a positive light. I was highlighting the twisted exaggeration bettyellen May 2016 #60

Nor has Pope Photo Op endorsed Sanders PeaceNikki May 2016 #30

Thanks so much! Aerows May 2016 #32

Lol. Dragged? You're... PeaceNikki May 2016 #49

I got a suggestion and I am half way serious nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #40

It is "inconvenient" that purported liberals were screaming B*TCH at her, yes it was. bettyellen May 2016 #43

My goodness angry people got heated at a nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #46

You want to normalize sexist slurs hurled at working women, that is on you. I refuse to. bettyellen May 2016 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author vintx May 2016 #54

None is normalizing a thing dear nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #57

Oh goody. Aerows May 2016 #59

Well could not or would not fight against the falling narrative nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #63

I wish Boxer flipped the bird after that mess. RandySF May 2016 #56

She did actually nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #58

She blew lots of taunting kisses arikara May 2016 #62

LOL --throwing kisses in now taunting. LOL--& hi to all riversedge May 2016 #64