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47. Very good work paulthompson. That is some reveal that the investigation
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:18 AM
May 2016

started from John Kerry.

I have gone on record that I do not believe that Hillary Clinton will be indicted not because of her actions but because of her accumulated privilege.

Clinton my well be in (deserved) serious trouble with consequences.

Team of Rivals Skink May 2016 #1
PEOPLE: Please don't be drawn into disruption on this thread. grasswire May 2016 #74
Threads like this are a great opportunity to refine your ignore list. pdsimdars May 2016 #96
My ignore list went from a couple JesterCS May 2016 #237
I think I probably have around 300 pdsimdars May 2016 #241
Kerry has nothing to gain personally in this. GreatGazoo May 2016 #158
I doubt that Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #211
Keep wishing and hoping. brush May 2016 #2
The poster is an archivist, not a partisan catnhatnh May 2016 #13
Hah! If you think that you're not too astute. That post is nothing but a Clinton attack. brush May 2016 #19
Okay, catnhatnh May 2016 #25
This site's purpose is to help Dem candidates get elected, not to tear them down. brush May 2016 #32
That's why I'm trying to do paulthompson May 2016 #41
It's not going to happen but if it did we'd all be screwed as the repugs would win in a landslide brush May 2016 #146
I disagree. Clinton's problems are her own, not the entire party's. Qutzupalotl May 2016 #204
You make some good points. brush May 2016 #210
I'll point out your hypocrisy, but you'll ignore it or deflect. RichVRichV May 2016 #227
If you call it hypocrisy to point out that Sanders has baggage too, okay, but I'm . . . brush May 2016 #232
Hillary isn't the party and the party isn't Hillary. RichVRichV May 2016 #233
Sad! Naivete is not a good look. You actually don't think the party would be affected . . . brush May 2016 #234
Not if the indicted person isn't the candidate. RichVRichV May 2016 #235
Seems you still don't get it. brush May 2016 #236
History says you're wrong. RichVRichV May 2016 #238
Not a nominee for president before and election. You have to know there would be . . . brush May 2016 #239
What you're using is called conjecture. RichVRichV May 2016 #240
Trump doesn't stand a chance against Bernie Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #212
That is Not the purpose of DU or this forum fasttense May 2016 #102
Newsflash: It is to get Dems elected. brush May 2016 #135
You HAVE to be kidding. Are you actually saying neither candidates supporters aren't supposed to floriduck May 2016 #185
Read up on the original purpose of the site. brush May 2016 #187
Read what is actually happening and has been happening. floriduck May 2016 #188
Hey, that's great, but... frylock May 2016 #189
So truth has a Bernie bias? Fawke Em May 2016 #149
The poster paulthompson May 2016 #21
Are you saying John Kerry was the first to come up with this? creeksneakers2 May 2016 #230
It's a two-way street paulthompson May 2016 #18
Like I said, keep wishing and hoping. It's not going to happen. brush May 2016 #20
Obama isn't corrupt.....and neither are his appointees. virtualobserver May 2016 #73
I am a Sanders' supporter as well but I do not think this impacts his candidacy one way or another Samantha May 2016 #75
Exactly. Those that have come out to support Sen Sanders are wishing and hoping to end the culture rhett o rick May 2016 #22
Come on. Stop with the sour grapes. Sanders has lost. You're gonna have to learn to deal with it. brush May 2016 #35
The hubris and arrogance of the Corporate Wing of our Party and their minions will be rhett o rick May 2016 #160
He hasn't lost? Math must not be your strong point. brush May 2016 #166
You have always spoken up for what is right and what is good senz May 2016 #63
+1 Wonderful post, senz! merrily May 2016 #80
And you also have spoken up for those that struggle in the middle and working classes. rhett o rick May 2016 #157
Let's See What Happens! I Do Not Believe Comey Will Risk His As Well As The FBI's Reputation By CorporatistNation May 2016 #3
There would be pure wrath 840high May 2016 #50
That's your key. Fawke Em May 2016 #151
A grand jury indicts, rusty fender May 2016 #57
Someone else said that if the FBI doesn't indict then they will have to explain how it is legal pdsimdars May 2016 #98
right, Comey would be opening himself to a veritable hornet's nest of irate judges MisterP May 2016 #192
Comey is establishment, nuff said. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #162
it's Benghazi which has turned into a right wing witch hunt, the email thing does need to be JI7 May 2016 #4
How right wing is it when we state facts that come out of it? JudyM May 2016 #216
That's interesting, and it makes complete sense 2banon May 2016 #5
Thanks. Keeping my own time line nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #6
oh by the way... 2banon May 2016 #7
Misunderstanding paulthompson May 2016 #23
Gotcha, I hadn't seen the date that statement was made when it was posted here a day or two ago 2banon May 2016 #49
I believe this is why so many of the establishment Democrats and corporate media conglomerates have Uncle Joe May 2016 #45
ahh. slip sliding Biden in as replacement. 2banon May 2016 #48
Maybe Boxer? Uncle Joe May 2016 #52
I was thinking Boxer last Saturday, after that disgusting display in Nevada. 2banon May 2016 #55
Barbara is 75 Pastiche423 May 2016 #213
I realize she's retiring, that was my point. Why the hell was she in Nevada? 2banon May 2016 #214
^^^this^^^ cliffordu May 2016 #77
Yes saw that. 840high May 2016 #51
Isn't it super cool cheapdate May 2016 #8
So saith a member of the "Hillary at any cost" team. n/t JimDandy May 2016 #38
Nope. Democrat. cheapdate May 2016 #44
You are both a Democrat AND a Hillary supporter JimDandy May 2016 #67
Wrong. I have stated countless times cheapdate May 2016 #115
This thing has more layers than a matryoshka doll Fumesucker May 2016 #9
Cool! Why should Kerry take the fall for Clinton Machine sleaze and corruption? NewImproved Deal May 2016 #10
Good for him Baobab May 2016 #11
Great research! amborin May 2016 #12
Everyone knows he's a DINO. silvershadow May 2016 #14
Remember when Kerry was engaged in early negotiations wrt Iran's Nuclear capabilities, sanctions 2banon May 2016 #15
oboy grasswire May 2016 #30
I don't remember that. Is there documentation? Scootaloo May 2016 #78
In the early to mid stages of the Iran Negotiations under Kerry, there were reports of leaks 2banon May 2016 #131
At one point, once Netanyahu was being kept informed, he was leaking selective and misleading karynnj May 2016 #175
I'd wager a month's SS that Bebe & Sid were involved 2banon May 2016 #205
I wouldn't go there karynnj May 2016 #206
Good points. 2banon May 2016 #207
Reported in WP June 10, 2015 seafan May 2016 #168
Oh, that's right.. malware, Stuxnet clone. 2banon May 2016 #208
Thanks, Paul. K&R. nt antigop May 2016 #16
John Kerry, that RWNJ trying to manufacture another scandal against Hillary riderinthestorm May 2016 #17
you had me for a sec.. :) 2banon May 2016 #53
Kerry was doing his job. The people demanding all the waste on the Benghazi hearings, however... moriah May 2016 #24
you are right. grasswire May 2016 #29
Any public official deserves scrutiny, absolutely, when an ethical question comes up. moriah May 2016 #39
John Kerry was high on the Clinton Hit List. senz May 2016 #26
I believe it was someone named "John Podesta" who, in 2004... dchill May 2016 #33
Ah, that's right! I remember reading about it. She wanted him out of the way senz May 2016 #42
I think that the Clintons' forte is end runs. dchill May 2016 #46
Actually senz May 2016 #59
Totally agree. dchill May 2016 #64
you have been a warrior for truth, senz grasswire May 2016 #66
It all gets to me as well. mmonk May 2016 #101
peeling the layers of the onion grasswire May 2016 #65
Gas masks may be in order. dchill May 2016 #68
I know people who are making sure to hunker down... grasswire May 2016 #72
Starting to look like the only "vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" Scootaloo May 2016 #79
Or, as Guccifer said, "open like an orchid on the Internet." Fawke Em May 2016 #155
I am positive it gave him no satisfaction karynnj May 2016 #109
Issa started it in 2012. Kerry did not. The OP is flat out wrong. NT seabeyond May 2016 #110
Kerry went to the IG recommending the State IG investigate karynnj May 2016 #111
Yes, "initiated the investigation" means first to start it, and 2012 is not parallel to 2015. ucrdem May 2016 #114
There are investigationS - the S is important to understanding what was said karynnj May 2016 #118
OP is flatly wrong and the rest is a screwy "timeline" that make no sense chronologically ucrdem May 2016 #121
If emailgate began in 2012, it was dormant until March 2015 karynnj May 2016 #171
Oh please. I leave you to your new lord of the flies. nt ucrdem May 2016 #179
We see that the Op gave false information and instead of owning it, you are trying to make it work? seabeyond May 2016 #116
A right wing smear -- you mean that Hillary Clinton did not have a private server and did not karynnj May 2016 #127
The investigation started with a Republican on a GOP committee. Blaming Kerry is grotesque. nt ucrdem May 2016 #129
I am not blaming Kerry, I am blaming HRC. Kerry did nothing wrong here nt karynnj May 2016 #173
Fine. Own it. nt ucrdem May 2016 #181
Rather HRC should own it --- she caused this problem! karynnj May 2016 #184
And again, it started as RW conspiracy, the same with Bengahzi. I won't pretend otherwise. Why are seabeyond May 2016 #132
The email issue started when the NYT, not a right wing publication, wrote its article karynnj May 2016 #139
Issa launched the investigation in 2012. The NYT is completely irrevelevant. ucrdem May 2016 #140
Please link to any hearings and articles in 2013 and 2014 concerning this karynnj May 2016 #156
Red herring. The point is clear: Issa, not Kerry, started the email witchhunt in 2012, not 2015. nt ucrdem May 2016 #174
The red herring is that you call this a witch hunt and try to argue that it logically started with karynnj May 2016 #177
And to pretend this is all Clinton when she merely followed footsteps is equally bullshit. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #141
No other SoS did all her email on a private account and none had a private server karynnj May 2016 #147
Private acct of an X President. Sorry, just not something for me to get all excited about. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #148
What of FOIA and Congressional oversight? karynnj May 2016 #153
What of it? Sanders, Powell, Rice, Albright and most all others, says Meh. That tells me something. seabeyond May 2016 #154
In other words... Fawke Em May 2016 #159
No. I have been informed and the conclusion I have come to is there is nothing at this point, so I seabeyond May 2016 #161
I do not think that Clinton will be indicted karynnj May 2016 #164
Reality, She did the same as Albright, Rice and Powell. Now that has been brought up, and none of seabeyond May 2016 #169
An ex-President's email is not subject to FOIA and Congressional inquiries - SD .gov is karynnj May 2016 #172
The time she walked in, different rules and different time. For you all to be so outraged over this seabeyond May 2016 #176
No one getting her email knew that she was not archiving it and I assume most did not think twice karynnj May 2016 #183
Meh. polly7 May 2016 #182
I thought it was Carville who convinced Kerry not to seek a recount in Ohio democrattotheend May 2016 #219
Possibly, they double-teamed him. dchill May 2016 #220
Such a really fantastic resource you created! bjo59 May 2016 #27
Holy moly, Paul. grasswire May 2016 #28
Wow. I think you just blew the lid of off of something there! Great work! liberal_at_heart May 2016 #31
Impressive body of work, thanks for posting it. K&R Hiraeth May 2016 #34
...and Comey investigated the Clintons for Whitewater, yet Obama appointed him anyway. yodermon May 2016 #36
If I remember correctly, Kerry was supposed to be PBO's original SoS RufusTFirefly May 2016 #37
I thought so too Ned_Devine May 2016 #228
Notice also how Sanders has moved away from using the email server a campaign issue. gordianot May 2016 #40
Sanders' strategy paulthompson May 2016 #43
remember his meeting with Obama? grasswire May 2016 #69
I'm pretty sure the "damn emails" was early on, in the 1st or 2nd debate... Peace Patriot May 2016 #82
thanks for that research. :-) nt grasswire May 2016 #83
Very good work paulthompson. That is some reveal that the investigation PufPuf23 May 2016 #47
Wait wait Glamrock May 2016 #54
Now if I still lived under the Bernie mentality Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #56
Exactly Glamrock May 2016 #58
Riveting read, Paul - thank you for doing this. agracie May 2016 #60
So much care and work, paul. senz May 2016 #61
Excellent Work Paul Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #62
Yes, her deliberately lying about HER ROLE AS THE CLASSIFIER OF DOCUMENTS... Peace Patriot May 2016 #85
If one goes back and looks at that interchange with reporters Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #89
kick, Thanks Paul, excellent work! bbgrunt May 2016 #70
Anyone got a direct line to Thom Hartman or Mike Malloy? grasswire May 2016 #71
Mike Malloy interviewed Paul Thompson, here: KoKo May 2016 #199
Vast Right Wing Kerryspiracy Attorney in Texas May 2016 #76
I have, from the start, believed the investigation was kabuki, but I hope I am mistaken. merrily May 2016 #81
This is what I think about that. grasswire May 2016 #84
The new word might be "probe", Lars39 May 2016 #86
I don't have insomnia. grasswire May 2016 #87
Heh, I totally understand. :-) Lars39 May 2016 #113
Kerry doesn't 'do' limited hangout. He's a pro and an honest broker. blm May 2016 #198
I think it's still a toss-up. Peace Patriot May 2016 #88
Very interesting points.... KoKo May 2016 #150
How would you like to be a defender of Aerows May 2016 #165
Yeah... would have been much better to let whistler162 May 2016 #90
Oh heck no. This thing started long before last July. It started when they nuked her Blackberry. ucrdem May 2016 #91
You should have let them go a little longer before hitting them with this... stevenleser May 2016 #92
How could they even think it? ucrdem May 2016 #94
Yes you are so right. lmbradford May 2016 #223
nice summary, and good reminder, but it should be said that this was all prominently reported MBS May 2016 #93
You do such good work, and anyone with integrity will appreciate it. pdsimdars May 2016 #95
Absolutely false. The investigation was initiated in 2012 by Darrel Issa. Link to DU debunk: ucrdem May 2016 #97
Thanks for the real information in truth form. Damn, isn't it always the way, the falsehoods all seabeyond May 2016 #103
There are several investigations, this speaks to the SD IG opening one. karynnj May 2016 #112
"initiated the investigation into Clinton's emails?" Then that is what the Op should have said seabeyond May 2016 #117
He corrected that in his second sentence - where it is clear he is speaking of one specific karynnj May 2016 #120
So, you all are good with a blatantly false headline? I am not. seabeyond May 2016 #122
I wish the title were different - but wonder if it was because of character limitations karynnj May 2016 #134
There is simply no justification for misleading headlines and the Op has been made aware seabeyond May 2016 #136
Look, this OP is as unsavory as it gets. I have no idea why you're defending it. ucrdem May 2016 #137
It has absolutely nothing to do with Sanders - who main comment on it is that he is tired of hearing karynnj May 2016 #142
Okay I didn't know you lived in Burlington. But that's no excuse for throwing Kerry under the bus. ucrdem May 2016 #145
No one is throwing Kerry under the bus karynnj May 2016 #152
nobody is throwing Kerry under the bus grasswire May 2016 #190
But that's not when the FBI started investigating it. Fawke Em May 2016 #163
Facts are wasted here. Anything which doesn't cover Hillary is brushed off vintx May 2016 #167
That was Benghazi lmbradford May 2016 #224
So, it wasn't Kerry right? It was Issa, correct? You are going to correct you OP right? seabeyond May 2016 #99
What the heck are you talking about?! paulthompson May 2016 #123
"Guess who initiated the investigation into Clinton's emails? John Kerry." Wrong. As what you post seabeyond May 2016 #124
He doesn't mention Issa once in his entire OP. I just searched. ucrdem May 2016 #126
Yes, it is obvious what the Op is doing. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #133
What is the OP doing, exactly? nt. polly7 May 2016 #202
It started in 2012 with Issa. Your title is a falsehood. Kerry had nothing to do with initiating ucrdem May 2016 #125
Thank you! nt. polly7 May 2016 #130
Kabuki theater MelungeonWoman May 2016 #100
Geez, that all their hope for a win now lies on Clinton being indicted. What does it say, about the seabeyond May 2016 #104
Show me how Bernie is responsible? lmbradford May 2016 #225
Show me where I wrote that Bernie was responsible. MelungeonWoman May 2016 #231
I will check back to make sure you made corrections owning your error. False information matters. seabeyond May 2016 #105
Thanks sea! ucrdem May 2016 #106
Thank you for the information. It is the constant fabrications that piss me off. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #107
It is mystifying. Disappointment is one thing but this? ucrdem May 2016 #108
You, of all people, hectoring Paul Thompson? grasswire May 2016 #191
False information matters. frylock May 2016 #193
It looks hopeless! How will Hill escape... tune in for the next exciting episode!! yourpaljoey May 2016 #119
I used to wonder why she set herself up for such drama. grasswire May 2016 #180
The plot thickens: we have a motive! yourpaljoey May 2016 #186
she knew it'd be controversial: she also knew that if she were the only candidate not a single thing MisterP May 2016 #195
thank you, Bernie nt grasswire May 2016 #196
y'know what the Central American kids and Berta Caceres'd be if it weren't for Sanders? MisterP May 2016 #197
Kickin' for reference Faux pas May 2016 #128
Kick and recommend. This is fascinating reading. nt. polly7 May 2016 #138
You should take the post down Demsrule86 May 2016 #143
K&R#115 n/t bobthedrummer May 2016 #144
kick nt antigop May 2016 #170
Wow! Thanks for this well researched and written post!! Else You Are Mad May 2016 #178
Lots of yelping dogs in this thread. frylock May 2016 #194
yep. You always know when Paul hits the nail on the head. nt antigop May 2016 #200
Great work. So much new information coming to light about this email fiasco... /nt think May 2016 #201
K&R Excellent work felix_numinous May 2016 #203
To investigate was reasonable and necessary. Kablooie May 2016 #209
Yes, save the country from further damage and do the right thing. . . .let us hear your findings FBI pdsimdars May 2016 #217
Oh sure lmbradford May 2016 #226
Truth and justice? What's that? Kablooie May 2016 #229
K & R! TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #215
Great post paulthompson! sorechasm May 2016 #218
Recommend...Thanks Paul Thompson.. KoKo May 2016 #221
K&R azmom May 2016 #222
Comey is going to be tough on this. He's a Republican. EndElectoral May 2016 #242
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