2016 Postmortem

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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8. I've always said the Party that Clinton and Rahm Emanuel built is fiscally conservative but

Thu May 19, 2016, 05:58 AM

May 2016

socially liberal. To paraphrase Thomas Frank, we're all Kansas now. The Party that overseas the distribution of wealth to the top 10% is held hostage by wage issues. It was a brilliant coup!

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The myth that Hillary is a conservative. [View all] StayFrosty May 2016 OP

Cherry Picked Legislation To Foster Candidate Propaganda cantbeserious May 2016 #1

And another puppet thread can mercifully die . . . nt Depaysement May 2016 #36

The internet propaganda machine is getting it's trial run during this campaign Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #58

Truth Depaysement May 2016 #71

Cherry-picked from the profoundly conservative business of the Senate, moreover. Orsino May 2016 #75

Ex-Im helps "small business"? AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #2

If Hillary is a neocon Arneoker May 2016 #9

93% my hindquarters AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #10

They never talk about that 7% pengu May 2016 #29

Neocons are defined by their interventionist foreign policy. The areas of agreement between Hillary Vote2016 May 2016 #39

We have 90% or more identical DNA to pigs. We are pretty much pigs. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #59

... libdem4life May 2016 #82

Fortunately, we won't have to watch the right wing Hortensis May 2016 #3

You're right, it will be incredibly nasty, and for that I'm glad they are preparing accordingly Native May 2016 #66

The myth that she's a Progressive. hobbit709 May 2016 #4

Another brand spanking new poster engaged in hillogical arguments Android3.14 May 2016 #5

"Hillogical"? Oh that is GOOD! Jester Messiah May 2016 #61

Be my guest. I'm rather pleased with the term Android3.14 May 2016 #73

There has been some really good terminology coined this season. frylock May 2016 #76

Extending Bush's tax cuts is a good thing now? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #6

Who wants to extend Bush tax cuts? Thinkingabout May 2016 #27

HR 4853 was to extend Bush's tax cuts. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #31

Good for Sanders. Thinkingabout May 2016 #37

K&R NCTraveler May 2016 #7

I think we had an argument about this months ago Armstead May 2016 #15

It was blatantly obvious it was a favor. NCTraveler May 2016 #16

What were the benefits to the Sanders? Armstead May 2016 #17

I edited my post after your reply. NCTraveler May 2016 #19

Bernie Sanders doesn't need that either.... Armstead May 2016 #21

I disagree. It was clearly a political favor. NCTraveler May 2016 #23

That's all I'm saying Armstead May 2016 #28

I've always said the Party that Clinton and Rahm Emanuel built is fiscally conservative but WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #8

Exactly. They are neoliberals - economic "free" traders not much different from Paul Ryan, but very Vote2016 May 2016 #42

All the points addressed ARE RELATIVELY TRIVIAL Herman4747 May 2016 #11

^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^ John Poet May 2016 #12

Or the candidate who voted against WMD inspections Thinkingabout May 2016 #32

Except for the Brady Bill, all points either untrue or trivial Herman4747 May 2016 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Thinkingabout May 2016 #53

Oh, really, trivial, we have 80 people a day on average dying from gun violence and it Thinkingabout May 2016 #55

And I said "Except for the Brady Bill" Herman4747 May 2016 #60

He should have a F rating, he doesn't. Thinkingabout May 2016 #74

More importantly, Hillary shouldn't be... Herman4747 May 2016 #80

Criticizing Hillary for talking to Kissinger about foreign policy, i am more concerned about Thinkingabout May 2016 #83

It isn't so much merely talking to Kissinger... Herman4747 May 2016 #84

Sanders does not have a foreign policy, has been making decisions without the Thinkingabout May 2016 #85

I strongly dispute your contention. BUT.... Herman4747 May 2016 #87

In today's global world is not a choice and Hillary has foreign policy knowledge, not wicked. Thinkingabout May 2016 #88

I haven't heard much from Hillary on gun control since the campaign came out West. frylock May 2016 #77

What about her weapons deals? If she's so anti gun why did she sell weapons to authoritarian JRLeft May 2016 #86

Perfect propaganda...This supplied by the Brock Shop? Armstead May 2016 #13

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #14

How about supporting paid trolls on the Internet? Is that progressive? Broward May 2016 #18

The problem with Hillary is she needs to take more progressive ideas and fight aggressively for them UCmeNdc May 2016 #20

Hillary Clinton is rated a Hard-Core Liberal. workinclasszero May 2016 #22

Does that include super predators that must be brought to heel and welfare reform? hobbit709 May 2016 #24

How about dumping toxic nuclear waste on poor Hispanic folks that couldn't fight back? workinclasszero May 2016 #30

On the issues defines "liberal" based largely in Democratic Party votes and "conservative" based on Vote2016 May 2016 #44

Your spin changes nothing workinclasszero May 2016 #46

Just look for yourself on how On The Issues charts politicians. It is not based on the type of issue Vote2016 May 2016 #50

Your spin changes nothing pt. 2 workinclasszero May 2016 #51

On second thought, your argument works better without the facts so DON'T look at the facts. Vote2016 May 2016 #56

The facts are right here but you seem to have a problem with them workinclasszero May 2016 #57

Cherry pick the issues and I could be anywhere on there TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #62

If Sanders reps you more than Hillary, fine. I got no problem with that workinclasszero May 2016 #63

She's liberal on social issues. TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #70

Its hard to find a person I agree with 100% on every issue workinclasszero May 2016 #72

Yeah, right. And Obama is a Muslim Socialist RufusTFirefly May 2016 #67

And Blink-182 is hard-core punk. frylock May 2016 #78

Those Bernie votes/statements are more liberal or progressive when you look at the details. aikoaiko May 2016 #25

Anyone that thinks Hillary is conservative, apcalc May 2016 #26

Of course Hillary is a neocon. How can you square her foreign policy with any other conclusion? Vote2016 May 2016 #34

Neocons don't back the Iran deal. Hillary Clinton does. Recursion May 2016 #38

Hillary is just (appopriately) supporting Obama's policy. You cannot believe she would enter into a Vote2016 May 2016 #47

Sure I can. The interesting question is why you can't. What's the epistemological block there? Recursion May 2016 #48

It isn't a matter of soul searching; it's a matter of comparing her attitude toward Israel and Vote2016 May 2016 #54

KAGAN & KISSINGER enough said Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #41

You have a non-dictionary-based understanding of the words "progressive" and "socialist." Vote2016 May 2016 #33

Hillary is proud of her Goldwater girl conservativism Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #35

Yes Hillary is progressive, and so is Bernie. They only aren't if you want to see them that way. CrowCityDem May 2016 #40

But your picture doesn't have bold-faced fonts and pretty colors. baldguy May 2016 #43

Humans and rhesus monkeys share 93% of their DNA. QC May 2016 #45

Not this crap again RufusTFirefly May 2016 #52

Recycling is normally a good thing, but not always. n/t QC May 2016 #64

You just proved that HRC is a freaking conservative! d_legendary1 May 2016 #65

Really. Reading that list makes me like Hillary LESS hollowdweller May 2016 #68

I think that was Brock's plan all along d_legendary1 May 2016 #69

In 2008, her last year in the Senate jamese777 May 2016 #79

Propaganda AgingAmerican May 2016 #81