2016 Postmortem

silvershadow

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56. It lies at the feet of DWS and the early and sustained collusion with

Reply to Joe the Revelator (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2016, 01:04 AM

May 2016

the HRC campaign, and HRC's unwillingness to leave the race, with dignity and grace, given her current legal circumstances. The time to do that has long passed. She, without flinching, took us ALL out on that limb with her. To say I am pissed it an understatement. If Bernie isn't the nominee I will have to announce my disapproval publicly and forcefully in order to distance myself and my good name from the Clinton Carnival.

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So we are watching the democratic party split from within... [View all] Joe the Revelator May 2016 OP

You are blaming the DNC for the voters rejecting Bernie MattP May 2016 #1

how about addressing the issues in the OP? nt grasswire May 2016 #2

Because their answer to everything is WINNING! jillan May 2016 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #26

I have noticed that too. Winning, math, numbers, etc. Merryland May 2016 #29

Why don't they care about our country anymore? 840high May 2016 #46

Yeah, why do they hate America? Bobbie Jo May 2016 #83

And sometimes parties move away from their base, and its time,as a group, to shake things up. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #3

Your idea of what a republican is out of whack MattP May 2016 #4

You don't get it. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #8

You don't accept reality MattP May 2016 #12

I think you're drifting way off course.. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #13

Do i wish Russ Fiengold was running, of course MattP May 2016 #19

Then why settle for someone so far right of that? Joe the Revelator May 2016 #20

I don't see her as right wing, i know you do MattP May 2016 #24

How much do you trust her, let's say, in comparison to Fiengold Joe the Revelator May 2016 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author MattP May 2016 #27

He's a progressive politician witjh integrity. Not perfect but light years ahead Armstead May 2016 #17

One big problem ... Superdelegates. Created to make sure no populist libdem4life May 2016 #92

Hillary's policies on the Middle East, war, peace, wages, Social JDPriestly May 2016 #55

So much this. Clinton supporters refuse to see their version of the party is dead. Ikonoklast May 2016 #94

Well, it all depends on which republican you are talking about. CrispyQ May 2016 #93

I like the way Rachel explained it: bvar22 May 2016 #98

You're right on. The Democrats are the moderate Republicans of the 1960s. Thirties Child May 2016 #105

If you represented the base Demsrule86 May 2016 #101

You just don't get it do you...n/t tokenlib May 2016 #48

Reality is easier to get than camplaigning uponit7771 May 2016 #68

The loser PATRICK May 2016 #66

Sanders had a greeting with the pope so shouldn't he get more delegates than Clinton!?!??! /sarcasm uponit7771 May 2016 #67

I'm blaming the DNC for running a war criminal. Old Union Guy May 2016 #71

LOL...totally blinded by the manipulation of the Party and it's cabal. bkkyosemite May 2016 #102

This was predicted Hydra May 2016 #5

All the party pols pulled their masks off at once. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #7

The Hillary supporters just don't get it timmymoff May 2016 #9

And pat themselves on the backs because she carries a (D) behing her name.... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #10

Agreed, and this split will eventually lead to much needed reform and a fumigation of all the One Black Sheep May 2016 #11

Don't worry too much. I just spent the weekend 'in the real world' and Dems are not divided. anotherproletariat May 2016 #14

Thank you for your super interesting anecdote. nt Joe the Revelator May 2016 #16

I just think it is important for everyone to realize that no matter how worked up they get anotherproletariat May 2016 #22

All your story proves is that you are friends with people who think like you. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #36

Hell, I haven't even run into strangers who support her... Contrary1 May 2016 #61

I live in a city of around 140,000 timmymoff May 2016 #73

I don't know a single Hillary supporter IRL. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #104

I'm old and my almost-as-old friends are all for Bernie. Thirties Child May 2016 #106

Totally true. The only real division seems to be here on DU and outside some of the Hillary eastwestdem May 2016 #18

And then there is this Doctor_J May 2016 #99

They had to push out the Liberals and Progressives Ferd Berfel May 2016 #15

Personally, fun n serious May 2016 #21

The proof is in the votes? Prove it. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #31

Impossible to tell GulfCoast66 May 2016 #50

There seems to be two fundamental views of life emerging Armstead May 2016 #23

So take a hike from DEMOCRATIC Underground and get to work on an alternative party Zorro May 2016 #28

Oh trust me, I will be, you guys can enjoy your echo chamber and your GE loss Joe the Revelator May 2016 #30

Oh good Zorro May 2016 #32

Whatever you say super dem. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #33

The actual base is voting for Clinton Zorro May 2016 #34

Not really. However the boots on the ground base is starting to wake up to the fact... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #35

Keep on insulting the Democratic voting base Zorro May 2016 #37

I'll happily insult those who are complacent in moving a great party to the right. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #38

So you go right ahead and continue supporting a losing candidate Zorro May 2016 #39

If that was there intent, they are REALLY fucking it up. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #41

Oh yeah 3 million more votes is really fucking it up Zorro May 2016 #42

As long as your are pretending that kind of winning a primary is = winning the GE Joe the Revelator May 2016 #44

I'd say losing a primary /= winning the GE Zorro May 2016 #45

I would beg to differ, when the independents who have left the party for going too right, come back Joe the Revelator May 2016 #51

Oh yeah, right. Zorro May 2016 #53

You're fooling yourself. 840high May 2016 #47

Why don't you join Free Republic ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #64

Wow. The hyperbole from the Sanders puritans is reaching truly inane levels Zorro May 2016 #86

You know it's true and don't give a shit I'm sure. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #87

It's absolutely true I want the Democratic nominee to win Zorro May 2016 #89

Nope. We are watch some fake Dems who apparently follow simple synergie May 2016 #40

No, we're not. blue neen May 2016 #43

Lol, no, what we're seeing is the Popular Front of Judea Tarc May 2016 #49

The Dem party has been pushing out independents and left leaning Dems for years ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #52

Not really. NanceGreggs May 2016 #54

+1000 Txbluedog May 2016 #57

We'll see, do not underestimate the younger generation, they might be complacent, but they are.. slipslidingaway May 2016 #60

Nor should they underestimate the older generation Thirties Child May 2016 #107

Oh no, not at all and thanks for the reminder! Some people are tired of voting for the party ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #110

Interesting that you have labeled both my children as fanatics, one is mid 20's and the other 30 ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #59

Way to write off over 6 million bernie voters as a "small group of fanatics" SpareribSP May 2016 #65

The vast majority ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #109

You really are kidding yourself if you think that. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #75

It lies at the feet of DWS and the early and sustained collusion with silvershadow May 2016 #56

Go righ ahead Txbluedog May 2016 #58

And there is no chance of party unity if Hillary is the nominee. djean111 May 2016 #76

kr Norrin Radd May 2016 #62

I hope it splinters into a million pieces and disappears ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #63

I am amazed at how blind our party has been. northernsouthern May 2016 #69

K&R - Debbbie and the other DINOs need to go. Betty Karlson May 2016 #70

Not really. Sanders has always had a lower depth of support among Democrats than Clinton Recursion May 2016 #72

You can Thank Bernie for that. The same thing would have happened in 2012 had Bernie gotten his way Jitter65 May 2016 #74

By all means start your own progressive Party. Sanders and his Independent acolytes will not Trust Buster May 2016 #77

Which is the problem of and with the Democratic Party Joe the Revelator May 2016 #78

I heartily agree! workinclasszero May 2016 #84

This country has been successful throughout it's history because the fringes on both sides have Trust Buster May 2016 #85

The fringe has now taken over the thug party..the bagger monster killed Dr Frankenstein LOL workinclasszero May 2016 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #103

Correct. I come across many who are eager to embrace a new party. yourpaljoey May 2016 #79

New party? Absolutely it's time These dollies are broken. MaeScott May 2016 #80

Wasserman Schultz is an asshole and needs to go. n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #81

The bigger problem for Democrats randr May 2016 #82

Yes indeed Time for change May 2016 #90

I know it will be sexist and all, but 2020 should be interesting for a change WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #91

"So we are watching the democratic party split from within..." Go Vols May 2016 #95

The level of corruption in the party is now so great NorthCarolina May 2016 #96

The Hillarians and other conservatives seem positively giddy about ridding themselves of liberals Doctor_J May 2016 #97

Judging from the primaries Demsrule86 May 2016 #100

No, just a lot of hot air, signifying nothing between Hillshills and Bernbots... JCMach1 May 2016 #108