2016 Postmortem

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts) Sun May 15, 2016, 10:53 PM May 2016

Does anyone else feel that things are starting to have less to do with Bernie.... [View all]

....and more to do with actually fighting for a REAL progressive movement in American politics? Obviously, Bernie is the current standard carrier, but I think that it's good news that at this point I think the movement is going to self-sustain long after Bernie.

It speaks well for progressivism. Not so much for the Democratic Party, as it is currently made up.

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Does anyone else feel that things are starting to have less to do with Bernie.... [View all] Joe the Revelator May 2016 OP

Perhaps self destruct. Thinkingabout May 2016 #1

you hope virtualobserver May 2016 #13

Not if I have anything to do with it. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #16

Good to hear. Thinkingabout May 2016 #17

Yes the Democratic Party is self-destructing. JimDandy May 2016 #73

If I'm any indication then yes, it is. My eyes are wide open this election. trudyco May 2016 #78

it never did have that much to do with Bernie AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #2

Exactly. Very well said. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #3

+1000 Hydra May 2016 #15

Agree. And he also has enough credibility and a record that we know who he is lostnfound May 2016 #56

Completely agree beedle May 2016 #20

He lent the movement credibility and acted as a focusing lens for ideas of fair play. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #23

He would be upset to know this.... Txbluedog May 2016 #30

Brockbot says what? BillZBubb May 2016 #32

+1.nt Snotcicles May 2016 #38

Results of Jury, LOL B Calm May 2016 #53

I smell some REALLY fresh meat. JimDandy May 2016 #74

Oooooh! Textbook case of projection! Jackilope May 2016 #39

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #49

Do people actually believe this? SpareribSP May 2016 #69

Anger without direction or destination gets tuned out. Sanders has poor messaging skills. randome May 2016 #65

He's very focused and almost 1/2 of Dems tuned him in and voted for him! JimDandy May 2016 #76

"Break up the banks" is a soundbite, not focus. randome May 2016 #77

True. This is bigger. Progressive change's biggest enemy is Beltway Democrats. Eleanors38 May 2016 #72

Bernie has desensitized the electorate, much like Goldwater did for Reagan. immoderate May 2016 #4

Huh? nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #7

He was saying that Bernie has made it easier for actual progressives... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #11

Hope so. SusanCalvin May 2016 #14

Joe got it right. And I agree that Bernie is real. immoderate May 2016 #68

Yeah it is pretty clear Sander's waited to see if someone like Warren would take the helm Ash_F May 2016 #5

It's strange to me that Warren wasn't willing to take up the cause, but you're right.... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #8

It is not strange to me. Look at how party leaders tore into Sanders Ash_F May 2016 #12

Well, I hope so. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #6

It's always been about more than Bernie -- Though it is about him too Armstead May 2016 #9

Bernie has never claimed that it was "his turn" tularetom May 2016 #10

It's definitely about Bernie, and how he has poisoned his followers to hating every Dem but him. CrowCityDem May 2016 #18

Or how he showed Dems we don't have to settle for moderate republicans Joe the Revelator May 2016 #22

Yep. Once he concedes his campaign and everything associated collapses. nt stevenleser May 2016 #24

Brockbot says what? BillZBubb May 2016 #33

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #45

Speaking "truths" like this SpareribSP May 2016 #71

Bernie himself would agree with you... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #19

My extreme loathing/dislike of right wing Democrats has nothing to do with Bernie. nt m-lekktor May 2016 #21

Of course.... Corporate666 May 2016 #25

Brockbot says what? BillZBubb May 2016 #34

Jeebus! Amaril May 2016 #57

Thanks. I've been alerted on several times. BillZBubb May 2016 #59

In other words, now that we have to admit that Bernie is COLGATE4 May 2016 #26

No, let's make sure it does dreamnightwind May 2016 #35

It came out last week that there is a document circulating of just that brush May 2016 #55

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #46

Exactly. nt auntpurl May 2016 #50

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #58

We'll see in the midterms if Bernie rallies his peeps to defeat Republicans redstateblues May 2016 #27

Wouldn't that depend on what president Golden Sacks' policies had been? BillZBubb May 2016 #61

I think this is a continuation of the occupy movement and boy has it grown! coffeeAM May 2016 #28

Not Me - We - Us - Together -- Much More Than Sanders Now cantbeserious May 2016 #29

Joe the Revelator—Departures and Arrivals CobaltBlue May 2016 #31

Bernie is 75 years old... wundermaus May 2016 #36

Absolutely Joe... This struggle has been in play for decades, centuries really. 2banon May 2016 #37

This is a great post, one that should be read by all Americans. ladjf May 2016 #52

Great summary of the situation! BillZBubb May 2016 #62

This is about much more than a progressive movement. It's returning a bought and paid for govt that Skwmom May 2016 #40

Yes. I do. RiverNoord May 2016 #41

Yes, although I must say I think that was always the case. TDale313 May 2016 #42

It's the year of the Anarchist so far. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #43

Haven't see many anarchist....just some motivated progressives. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #48

Anarchist???? Where are they? BillZBubb May 2016 #63

The Reagan Revolution is dead, & we've got to stop reacting to it. It's time for a true Progressive highprincipleswork May 2016 #44

They are not tone-deaf BillZBubb May 2016 #64

Well, if they want to win elections, they better get on the side of history. They will highprincipleswork May 2016 #70

K&R Scuba May 2016 #47

Don't be fooled. When college students realize that trillions aren't heading their way, this Trust Buster May 2016 #51

Why are you so dismissive of the next generation of dem voters? Joe the Revelator May 2016 #67

Someone posted this yesterday and it seems to fit everywhere. pdsimdars May 2016 #54

This has been cooking since at least 2009 nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #60

I remain unconvinced about any "REAL progressive movement" Blue_Tires May 2016 #66

No, this primary, this entire year, DU, has all been about Clinton. randome May 2016 #75