2016 Postmortem

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108. you are apparently ignorant of the definition of "ferment"

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"The Democratic Stockholm Syndrome" [View all] RiverLover Apr 2016 OP

"fermenting a revolution". LOLZ! KittyWampus Apr 2016 #1

You love endless war, wall street gambling with no risk on the taxpayers' backs, fossil fuels killin RiverLover Apr 2016 #4

Spell check is your friend. brush Apr 2016 #6

? which word did I mess up? RiverLover Apr 2016 #12

Pedantry is the last refuge of the bereft of argument and the witless. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #22

Maybe, but I know the difference between "foment" and "ferment". brush Apr 2016 #26

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #33

Careful there, buddy. The last Stockholm Syndrome poster got banned from his insults towards AAs brush Apr 2016 #35

and the bannings will probably continue until morale improves. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #41

Or until posters stop breaking Terms of Service. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #297

I think the definition of ToS depends on the Admin. I leave it to their discretion. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #298

If one can't put fort a cogent argument, they resort to claiming "race baiting", even though you... George II Apr 2016 #77

I know the history on DU and I will agree the term... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #87

And this is a passive-aggressive way to resurrect it ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #194

they don't and never did Hiraeth Apr 2016 #38

Jason Isbell fan here A Little Weird Apr 2016 #269

For real Hiraeth Apr 2016 #270

you are apparently ignorant of the definition of "ferment" virtualobserver Apr 2016 #108

It's primary definition is a noun (look it up). The poster used it as a verb. brush Apr 2016 #111

both words are fine in that context...if you "look it up". virtualobserver Apr 2016 #117

I looked it up. He should have use "foment" in that context as "ferment" is primarily used as a noun brush Apr 2016 #120

"primarily" is not a synonym for "exclusively"..... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #129

Yeah, yeah. The poster dug in his heels though when his poor choice was pointed out brush Apr 2016 #133

It like the difference between nauseous and nauseated. wildeyed Apr 2016 #252

I'm with you. Ferment is for wine and sourdough, foment is for revolution. brush Apr 2016 #255

Yes, it is a FERMENTED. wildeyed Apr 2016 #257

What do you feed it with? brush Apr 2016 #259

Flour, usually. wildeyed Apr 2016 #260

Thanks for the info. I'm not a baker but I'm tempted to try it now. brush Apr 2016 #262

It's fun. wildeyed Apr 2016 #263

Nobody says "ferment a revolution". brush Apr 2016 #304

So what. Who cares. pangaia Apr 2016 #303

fer·ment frylock Apr 2016 #212

"Foment a revolution" or "ferment a revolution"? brush Apr 2016 #219

You got schooled. frylock Apr 2016 #220

I think you did. brush Apr 2016 #221

Take it up with Merriam-Webster frylock Apr 2016 #223

Foment a revolution or ferment a revolution? brush Apr 2016 #225

You tried to make this about the definition of one word. frylock Apr 2016 #229

I think not. All you have to do is google brush Apr 2016 #232

So in your world, words have only one definition? frylock Apr 2016 #234

Let's say we both let it go. I gave you several definitions of ferment, both noun and verb brush Apr 2016 #247

I'm good. frylock Apr 2016 #248

No kidding. RiverLover Apr 2016 #27

Don't know much about the history of that phrase around here, huh? brush Apr 2016 #29

Stockholm Syndrome is a phrase that only applies to PoC now, according to DU? RiverLover Apr 2016 #31

Good luck. They will use anything to advance their world view. Banning is the most efficient for rhett o rick Apr 2016 #288

That makes no sense whatsoever. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #39

"That makes no sense whatsoever." RiverLover Apr 2016 #60

Do wut? Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #64

Hillary is NOT doing any of things... fun n serious Apr 2016 #146

Are you trying to foment an argument? George II Apr 2016 #11

Ferment. . A state of agitation or of turbulent change or development. RiverLover Apr 2016 #16

Isn't "foment" the verb you were looking for? "Ferment" is primarily a noun. Even this . . . brush Apr 2016 #34

I agree that foment would have been better, tabasco Apr 2016 #199

Why do you think people don't know theorigin? The origin in hostage situations is pretty well known. brush Apr 2016 #30

Why? Because it's misused so often around here. Seems every time someone has a different... George II Apr 2016 #44

It was more than that though. It was used to imply that people were too stupid . . . brush Apr 2016 #46

That too, implying (sometimes MORE that just implying) that you're not smart enough to... George II Apr 2016 #79

I didn't read it, does it really say that! LOL boston bean Apr 2016 #20

What a crass thing to say. Your showing your....well you know. haikugal Apr 2016 #121

What??? LOL boston bean Apr 2016 #123

. haikugal Apr 2016 #127

I prefer my revolutions distilled jack_krass Apr 2016 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #91

He needs a Thesaurus - but his father told him COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #209

Maybe get one yourself. frylock Apr 2016 #214

Keep beating that dead horse. Why not recognize the truth- COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #277

Actually, you are the one who is incorrect here. They can be & are used interchangeably. RiverLover Apr 2016 #279

Beat..beat...beat....this horse is going to get up, i swear. Beat... beat... COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #281

Why not just admit that you need to smack up your vocab game? frylock Apr 2016 #282

No. When in doubt I generally don't go to the very last possible COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #283

Here's the deal. You fucked up. frylock Apr 2016 #284

Bye. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #285

The revolution he is trying to create and ferment -- LOL betsuni Apr 2016 #2

I'll have... JSup Apr 2016 #57

fer·ment frylock Apr 2016 #215

Haven't we had enough of these Stockholm Syndrome insults? brush Apr 2016 #3

I certainly thought so... But I guess "no". Agschmid Apr 2016 #7

+1... SidDithers Apr 2016 #8

if you CHOOSE to be insulted, by all means, have at it. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #43

Which is probably why were seeing this nonsense again. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #56

Well ... they are proving they are not psychically damaged by supporting ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #93

How can any writer, who doesn't know the difference between ferment and foment, be taken seriously? SidDithers Apr 2016 #5

The writer is a "lecturer in the Department of People sufrommich Apr 2016 #13

Low verbal IQ eh? Its common, don't feel bad. RiverLover Apr 2016 #19

https://www.google.ca/#q=ferment+definition polly7 Apr 2016 #58

Right? In trying to show how smart they are, they proved beyond a shadow of a doubt RiverLover Apr 2016 #75

Check it again. Ferment's primary definition is a noun. Foment is the verb that should have . . . brush Apr 2016 #107

"ferment" is a verb too. hello? Read above or below for the definition. RiverLover Apr 2016 #112

As I said, it's primary use is as a noun. brush Apr 2016 #115

I've never used it as a noun in my life, there are much better terms. polly7 Apr 2016 #118

Oh, people are laughing all right. He should have use "foment". brush Apr 2016 #125

In your opinion. In mine, he used the exact right term and most polly7 Apr 2016 #130

I love the fact northernsouthern Apr 2016 #196

OMG. You're just digging in further into your own crap. He used ferment correctly. RiverLover Apr 2016 #124

Well, you learned something new today, didn't you? frylock Apr 2016 #217

Lollololololololol! northernsouthern Apr 2016 #186

Laughing at yourself — I like it. brush Apr 2016 #190

Exactly northernsouthern Apr 2016 #191

I r smart! frylock Apr 2016 #218

Um... Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #305

+1! tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #97

Yep. At this point, all they have is doubling down on their own silliness. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #189

They need this guy in their camp. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #198

Right? frylock Apr 2016 #222

Um... Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #307

Oh, goody! Ferment-gate lives on! frylock Apr 2016 #308

Too funny Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #309

I know, right?! Derpa derpa derp. frylock Apr 2016 #216

Fermented revolution? Tarc Apr 2016 #9

Make mine a red, I prefer that over the whites. brush Apr 2016 #32

LOL ... Nicely played ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #88

See response #58 above nt tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #100

Yes, congrats on dipping down to the uncommon, 2nd defnition Tarc Apr 2016 #141

No, it was the first definition in the very first link. polly7 Apr 2016 #144

You've spent a lot of time telling people to "see post 58!" for an alleged triviality Tarc Apr 2016 #147

I've never even posted that. polly7 Apr 2016 #148

Ah, I assumed you were the first poster replying back again, never looked at the username Tarc Apr 2016 #149

You were talking with that other poster about MY post. polly7 Apr 2016 #150

Hard to tell one complaining Sanders supporter from another these days Tarc Apr 2016 #151

LMAO. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #152

Racist shit. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #10

How in the hell is this racist? You know what is racist & sexist & harms those causes? RiverLover Apr 2016 #14

What are you trying to ferment here? nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #17

See reply #58 nt tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #113

Because somehow in the HRC camp, they've gotten Stormfront and Tumblr to peacefully coexist VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #23

That h supporter is not deep enough to understand artislife Apr 2016 #242

+1... SidDithers Apr 2016 #15

It has nothing to do with skin color. RiverLover Apr 2016 #21

Sure it doesn't... SidDithers Apr 2016 #25

Wow. RiverLover Apr 2016 #28

Is everything now racist or sexist to Hill supporters? Nt tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #116

No, just the stuff that's racist and sexist..nt SidDithers Apr 2016 #153

+1000 mcar Apr 2016 #213

;) sheshe2 Apr 2016 #271

+1000 stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #202

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Apr 2016 #18

Oh brother Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #24

+1 n/t JTFrog Apr 2016 #162

it's not necessary to be a low information narcissist to write for Common Dreams, but it sure helps. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #36

A revolutionary wine or is it whine? rbrnmw Apr 2016 #53

See response #58 and educate yourself nt tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #119

It has EVERYTHING to do with race and gender. EVERYTHING. Godhumor Apr 2016 #37

You're forgetting the other major group Bernie wins - YOUNG PEOPLE. You Hillary supporters are MillennialDem Apr 2016 #42

Pretty sure I never implied you had Stockholm Syndrome for supporting Sanders n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #51

And I never said Hillary supporters had Stockholm Syndrome. I said you're telling us MillennialDem Apr 2016 #55

Demagoguery is all they know. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #52

It has fuck-all to do with race and gender. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #50

Again, implication is the demographic groups that are leading Clinton to the nomination Godhumor Apr 2016 #54

The implication would only apply to a small cross-section of said groups. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #62

Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT. fleur-de-lisa Apr 2016 #66

Thanks for the heads up! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #67

This makes sense northernsouthern Apr 2016 #96

I get that demographic divides are difficult to understand and accept Godhumor Apr 2016 #109

Thanks for the compliment. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #139

Very well said. brush Apr 2016 #99

Last I looked, plenty of white men voted for Hillary.. tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #136

Thanks for trying to educate some folks. Good luck with it. K&R Hiraeth Apr 2016 #40

It would seem to be a textbook case Doctor_J Apr 2016 #45

face it... a lot of them just want a female prez. It's that simple. nt antigop Apr 2016 #49

Absolutely. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #65

^^^This. and that reason alone can have disastrous consequences. Hillary is not the right woman desmiller Apr 2016 #227

and neither was Carly Fiorina! k8conant Apr 2016 #278

Definitely not Carly Fiorina. My mother called her "Horse face." desmiller Apr 2016 #287

Those are some excellent observations. Its insanity run amok. /nt RiverLover Apr 2016 #61

Been say'n this for a long time. n/t HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #47

47 replies...I can see 8. LOL Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #48

Yep. RiverLover Apr 2016 #63

There it is again... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #59

Here's one thing Obama has on Clinton: Trickle Down economics WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #68

Great post. RiverLover Apr 2016 #73

I was young and naive, too. I look back now and consider myself an WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #82

But it was much harder back then to put two and two together. We had no Internet. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #230

Very true. RiverLover Apr 2016 #273

The stockholm argument is for simpletons and to give certian people feelings..... NCTraveler Apr 2016 #69

I can't wait till skinner calls it! hrmjustin Apr 2016 #70

Damn. 100% spot on. Nt HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #71

This is the kind of shit that makes people hope a purge is on the horizon. JTFrog Apr 2016 #72

Oh good, more Obama bashing. auntpurl Apr 2016 #74

Nearly 90 Percent Of People Killed In Recent Drone Strikes Were Not The Target RiverLover Apr 2016 #78

I AM a moderate. auntpurl Apr 2016 #80

So I guess you don't mind thousands of people just living their lives like you & I being murdered RiverLover Apr 2016 #83

That's a characterisation, not a fact. auntpurl Apr 2016 #86

Its a fact: RiverLover Apr 2016 #92

Unilateral intervention is (nearly) always bad auntpurl Apr 2016 #94

Our being there, killing people, is creating the global threat. RiverLover Apr 2016 #98

Bilge. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #76

Millions didn't even get to vote. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #81

It seems many are becoming desensitized to this. I'm glad you aren't one of them RiverLover Apr 2016 #103

Disinterest in fairness is an indicator of the condition, a symptom of it, in fact. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #105

Thanks, CentralCoaster! RiverLover Apr 2016 #137

Many people died in the struggle for voting rights, I will never forget that, anyone who thinks it's onecaliberal Apr 2016 #142

Recommended. That is indeed the correct definition of Stockholm syndrome. Autumn Apr 2016 #84

Me too. Patty Hearst. RiverLover Apr 2016 #104

Leaving the democratic party months ago was the single most freeing moment of my life. Autumn Apr 2016 #122

Once one is no longer emotionally tied to the Party, one can objectively assess it's behavior. Maedhros Apr 2016 #134

It's downright ugly. Autumn Apr 2016 #135

Leaving the race and gender issues out of this (for the moment) ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #85

+1 Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #106

oh gawd, why did I take you off ignore. buh-bye again. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #114

Thank you ... putting back on Ignore will certainly improve the caliber of replies I receive. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #132

test! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #203

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #210

Yup ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #145

Now, the number is up to 43 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #155

The underlying arrogance is difficult to watch ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #156

Hardly we've been saying the same about working class/poor folks who vote Republican for years azurnoir Apr 2016 #208

Me! wildeyed Apr 2016 #224

It drives them away-them who? azurnoir Apr 2016 #238

Anyone you are trying to convince. wildeyed Apr 2016 #240

I do too ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #250

Absolutely! wildeyed Apr 2016 #256

Do better next time? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #258

Bull shit! ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #226

Stockholm Syndrome is accurately described in the OP and you admit it's aimed at the working class azurnoir Apr 2016 #237

In the context, and with history of DU, and the voting patterns in this primary ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #244

This is a different poster and an entirely different OP azurnoir Apr 2016 #245

Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #251

Yeah, odd, that. frylock Apr 2016 #228

Just a sign of the times azurnoir Apr 2016 #239

They'll go back to disparaging the South in the GE. frylock Apr 2016 #243

Hmmm. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #90

they're just blowing chaff because both Clintons make statements that'd sink Sanders permanently MisterP Apr 2016 #154

The definition is EXACTLY correct and applies to every gender, race and class of people. polly7 Apr 2016 #95

Anyone who claims to know what hundreds of millions of voters feel is full of him/herself. randome Apr 2016 #128

No-one claimed that. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #131

The article does just that. 'America' needs to break free of Stockholm Syndrome. randome Apr 2016 #172

K&R sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #101

democracy, when it goes against you, don't you just hate it? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #102

Oh it will be broken. Give it some time. KPN Apr 2016 #110

Most likely. Its a damn shame though. /nt RiverLover Apr 2016 #140

Some of us know what it means and this is a good post. Thank you. K&R! nt haikugal Apr 2016 #126

And Thank God for that. RiverLover Apr 2016 #138

. haikugal Apr 2016 #158

. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #143

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #157

"It has NOTHING to do with RACE." NuclearDem Apr 2016 #159

Bullshit. The OP is about how the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is being held hostage RiverLover Apr 2016 #166

It was a waste of time trying to explain this to WillyT NuclearDem Apr 2016 #169

The article doesn't mention blacks at all, because its referring to the entire political party. RiverLover Apr 2016 #173

K & R imagine2015 Apr 2016 #160

Your comment at the end of the article is completely clueless Sheepshank Apr 2016 #161

Stockholm syndrome is not about race. Its about hostages & how those hostages deal with it. RiverLover Apr 2016 #163

Keep it up... Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #164

What you're posting is unhinged from reality. The (D) party has gone rogue Right Wing. RiverLover Apr 2016 #168

"unhinged from reality," what?? Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #175

They know this OP has nothing to do with race. Autumn Apr 2016 #268

Yet Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #290

Thanks for the high five, but there's nothing I can do to help you with your comprehension problems. Autumn Apr 2016 #291

Didn't request your help. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #293

Not as short as you want it to be. Too bad. I'm sure Skinner doesn't want to knock Autumn Apr 2016 #294

True enough, I'll manage. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #295

It is very much a winner OP there are many democrats who suffer from Democratic Stockholm Syndrome Autumn Apr 2016 #296

The OP is yet another embarrassment in a long line Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #301

The meaning "given" to that phrase here on DU means nothing. You can't change the meaning Autumn Apr 2016 #302

Yeah. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #167

Deflecting definitions? frylock Apr 2016 #233

delfection of how Stockholm Syndrom was applied here on DU to the AA Community, won't work Sheepshank Apr 2016 #171

My post has nothing to do with that situation. RiverLover Apr 2016 #174

yes it did...you attempt to pretend the past didn't happen Sheepshank Apr 2016 #176

You honestly believe this? ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #177

The Democrats for the past 25-30 years have been acting republican, and we have to go RiverLover Apr 2016 #181

Well that answers my question ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #188

" established fantasy of incremental rearguard progress...." pat_k Apr 2016 #165

The Party of "Yes We Can" turned "No We Can't" very quickly with Hillary. RiverLover Apr 2016 #170

We can be realists, we can work within that construct Sheepshank Apr 2016 #178

You lost Renew Deal Apr 2016 #179

No not really. The Democratic Party loses with Third Way Dems leading us with RW policies RiverLover Apr 2016 #183

The voters have spoken Renew Deal Apr 2016 #195

Your call sign is "Renew Deal" and your supporting Hillary? Phlem Apr 2016 #185

We will all be supporting Hillary soon. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #193

Nice story bro. Phlem Apr 2016 #197

Good to know which side you're one Renew Deal Apr 2016 #200

That would be the non corrupt side. Phlem Apr 2016 #201

That's the problem Renew Deal Apr 2016 #204

By Your Definition!? Phlem Apr 2016 #206

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #205

Gooble-gobble. frylock Apr 2016 #236

The blind followers spoken of divert attention from the message... polichick Apr 2016 #180

No kidding. /nt RiverLover Apr 2016 #182

"It has NOTHING to do with RACE." Phlem Apr 2016 #184

Talk about a passive aggressive way ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #187

K&R quantumjunkie Apr 2016 #192

good article. I suppose the book "What's the matter with Kansas" is also bbgrunt Apr 2016 #207

You describe it so well. Thanks. RiverLover Apr 2016 #266

umadbro? stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #211

The Bernies.... MrWendel Apr 2016 #231

That's because the ones doing it KNOW ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #254

It's a dog whistle, for sure. wildeyed Apr 2016 #265

Yeah stay tuned.... MrWendel Apr 2016 #311

Has someone posted the jury results yet? Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #235

I feel like this campaign season has deprogrammed me artislife Apr 2016 #241

I call bullshit. wildeyed Apr 2016 #246

Just another 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #253

I wish there was a way wildeyed Apr 2016 #264

To fucking bad. Get over it. nt William769 Apr 2016 #249

Terrific article quantass Apr 2016 #261

The author really nailed it. Thanks quantass. RiverLover Apr 2016 #267

Wow. Was just talking about this phenomenon with my son. Duppers Apr 2016 #272

That's so great. I hope many people start talking it up to family & friends & coworkers. RiverLover Apr 2016 #274

Excellent Article RiverLover, thanks for sharing this. 2banon Apr 2016 #275

Mon plaisir, mon ami!! Ce n'était rien ;) RiverLover Apr 2016 #276

Au contraire , mon ami . il était très important et sur ce point, 2banon Apr 2016 #280

"le bras dans le bras ensemble" - Arm & Arm we stand together! RiverLover Apr 2016 #286

The term "Stockholm Syndrome" is based on an assumption that is flat out wrong eridani Apr 2016 #289

K&R Autumn Apr 2016 #292

Quick Explanation PB57 Apr 2016 #299

Kick. JTFrog Apr 2016 #300

. stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #306

Load o' crap. johnp3907 Apr 2016 #310