2016 Postmortem

pdsimdars

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121. In that youtube link I provided they said she exchanged classified email which she had

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:33 PM

Apr 2016

removed the classified marking from and they were sent around to her circle and something like 12 other people many of whom did not have proper security clearance.
That sounds pretty definitive to me.

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Hillary folks DO REALIZE that Hillary will be found to have deliberately violated the FOIA, RIGHT? [View all] Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 OP

They live in fantasy land, so no, they don't realize anything. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #1

No. They will say it is part of a Republican conspiracy concerning Benghazi. mmonk Apr 2016 #2

From all I've read, it's pretty unlikely that she will be found to have YouDig Apr 2016 #3

You're confusing the criminal case investigation and the numerous civil suits. I agree it's unlikely Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #12

I don't see civil suits as having the same impact as an indictment. YouDig Apr 2016 #14

Some of us care because transparency is a liberal value. Rilgin Apr 2016 #32

Here negatives are a problem, no doubt about it. YouDig Apr 2016 #46

But the FBI found an additional 30,000 emails - many of which they say Fawke Em Apr 2016 #69

Transparency is exactly one of the issues. Rilgin Apr 2016 #124

+1. Zira Apr 2016 #77

I don't either, but that's like saying "I don't see a stroke as having the same impact as cancer" Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #38

She violated her signed Classified Info Nondisclose Agreement. That was a serious felony violation. leveymg Apr 2016 #85

Apparently, being inside Establishment... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #35

She violated the terms of her signed classified info nondisclose agreement. This is criminal. leveymg Apr 2016 #83

As someone who makes regular FOIA requests for work, this whole story really aggravates me Ash_F Apr 2016 #4

JudicialWatch: The go to source for Sanders supporters. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #5

I know right? ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #8

I would like to think they would highlight it instead of hide it. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #10

If you have a PACER account, you can get these public court orders and court transcripts there for a Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #17

Judicial Watch is your source of choice. Nice. I actually like the transparency. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #23

It is NOT my source. PACER is my source. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #24

Um... check out who you're talking to. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #70

Lol. JTFrog Apr 2016 #101

No, my links are to (1) a court order, (2) a court transcript, (3) The Guardian (a liberal paper), Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #16

You link directly to judicial watch in your op. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #18

who cares? grasswire Apr 2016 #56

People who believe in transparency and the knowledge they are being ratfucked. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #62

he said why grasswire Apr 2016 #65

Sure. lol. Stick with that. Not the reality that it is their go-to source. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #66

Ugh... Fawke Em Apr 2016 #72

Thanks for offering to do that! That poster was out of line. n/t JimDandy Apr 2016 #88

Wow...look who believes in ratfucking all of a sudden. SwampG8r Apr 2016 #99

The links are to court orders and transcripts. You can find them on for-pay government websites or Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #58

If it means giving free acess to public documents, I don't care whose site it is. JimDandy Apr 2016 #61

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #63

exactly! JoePhilly Apr 2016 #76

There are 38 separate civil suits. JW is just one. There's also a criminal FBI investigation leveymg Apr 2016 #90

She is too selfish to care that her over ambitiousness is endangering our government Vote2016 Apr 2016 #131

Crazy Larry Klayman strikes again. His next suit - COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #106

You DO REALIZE you have no idea what you are talking about.. RIGHT? DCBob Apr 2016 #6

Where did you get your law degree, Bob? Fawke Em Apr 2016 #73

The School of Common Sense. DCBob Apr 2016 #75

You can read the court order yourself. That's why I linked it. So - technically - it is the judges Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #78

My comment was referring to your "interpretation" of the court order. DCBob Apr 2016 #86

Did you have a different interpretation of "wrong-doing and bad faith" or "constantly shifting Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #92

Yes, this is a non-story fake scandal. DCBob Apr 2016 #93

Tell yourself that a federal judge finding "wrong-doing and bad faith" is a non-story fake scandal Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #95

Lets revisit once the report comes out... I am sure that wont be too long. DCBob Apr 2016 #98

Is the difference between the civil cases and the criminal investigation beyond your grasp? There is Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #105

Huh?? Civil cases?? That's ridiculous if the FBI clears her. DCBob Apr 2016 #113

In all likelyhood the FBI report WILL NOT clear her Bob41213 Apr 2016 #116

It will. DCBob Apr 2016 #118

Oh good, I'm glad you spoke to Comey Bob41213 Apr 2016 #119

You "suppose it could happen"? You know that there are already more than 3 dozen cases pending? Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #132

Given your track record on your previous predictions and claims.. DCBob Apr 2016 #133

You understand that over 3 dozen cases CURRENTLY pending is not a "prediction," right? Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #136

Are any of those "pending" cases yours? DCBob Apr 2016 #137

No, but I certainly support the Associated Press's right to enforce the FOIA. Don't you? Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #139

Glad to hear that. Keep up the good work posting all this crap. DCBob Apr 2016 #140

Right wing websites like The Guardian, Huffington Post, WikiPedia, NPR, etc.? Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #141

Keep plugging away.. maybe one day you will actually be right about something. DCBob Apr 2016 #142

I'm not listening!!!! Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #7

Why is it that the questionable situations are now brought to light so late in the game? Paper Roses Apr 2016 #9

The DoJ is waiting on the FBI. The FBI is reportedly just months from making a recommendation. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #22

Don't lose mad...just lose. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #11

I can't see how Sidney Blumenthal will NOT be indicted Dems to Win Apr 2016 #13

I agree. Hillary RECEIVED emails that show a criminal violation of the law. I haven't seen where she Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #19

or Sid had an as yet unknown source in GOV One_Life_To_Give Apr 2016 #34

He almost certainly did, but that source wasn't Hillary because Sid was leaking information TO her Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #47

one source that Sid was using was former CIA who also was ginnng up .. grasswire Apr 2016 #57

The late Tyler Drumheller, former head of the CIA's European Division who exposed "Curveball". leveymg Apr 2016 #91

Ayup. AzDar Apr 2016 #15

You're losing you're losing you're losing you're losing alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #20

Campaign-wise, it almost doesn't matter if she's indicted or not. Vinca Apr 2016 #21

Yes! n/t Paper Roses Apr 2016 #55

Random Internet chatter says something. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #25

These are court orders and court transcripts. That's not "random internet chatter" Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #26

Cool story, bro. onehandle Apr 2016 #27

Don't feed them. Put them on ignore if you cant ignore them. They are in their glory rhett o rick Apr 2016 #129

Lawrence O'Donnell: "They’re using the Bush standard as the defense of Hillary. " think Apr 2016 #28

surprised to hear Laurence said that out loud, did he say that on MSNBC? 2banon Apr 2016 #68

Yes. think Apr 2016 #71

Well, I think he's right about that.. 2banon Apr 2016 #89

So, you're a psychic? That must be neat to foretell the future! nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #29

I'm not a psychic - I'm literate. I linked the court order. You can read it yourself. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #41

drip, drip, drip saidsimplesimon Apr 2016 #30

Please unmute your voice and feel free to speak to the issues that inspire you. JimDandy Apr 2016 #107

I really feel that the story about the private email server Turn CO Blue Apr 2016 #31

bingo AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #39

exactly! n/t zazen Apr 2016 #43

Excellent. grasswire Apr 2016 #59

^== This. nt IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #60

Wow. nt vintx Apr 2016 #82

Both issues (classified material and pay-to-play) are serious problems, winter is coming Apr 2016 #103

Im more concerned about her taking bribes from WDIM Apr 2016 #33

If you can predict the future workinclasszero Apr 2016 #36

Thank you. 7wo7rees Apr 2016 #37

Thanks. I had to reschedule some things set up in downtown Houston this week, but otherwise, all is Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #49

As far as I understand it these are civil sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #40

Fines, legal fees, and penalties will likely be assessed against the State Department, not Hillary. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #45

And the upshot wil be the electorate reads that and COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #108

Feds flag Bernie Sanders campaign contributions workinclasszero Apr 2016 #42

More likely that Sanders to be found to be "full of shit" by most of the dem electorate no? uponit7771 Apr 2016 #44

This has nothing to do with Sanders. The Democratic electorate loves Sanders: Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #48

You're right, we love his full of shitness and don't take it seriously and that's why he's losing by uponit7771 Apr 2016 #50

You know the "Hillary's winning by millions of votes" meme totally ignores a bunch of caucus states, Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #51

OK, instead of 2.4 million we'll make it 2.15 million... better?!? tia uponit7771 Apr 2016 #54

Hillary should not be holding any more public offices. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #52

I'm not saying she's unfit for office. I'm just saying she's not the basket to put all our eggs in. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #53

but how could she possibly hold a security clearance now? grasswire Apr 2016 #64

Violating FIOA is about HIDING documents from American citizens, not LEAKING documents to foreign Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #67

From what I understand, that "hiding" documents from the government is a crime pdsimdars Apr 2016 #81

It doesn't matter if the AG actually indicts. The FBI report will sink her candidacy. leveymg Apr 2016 #111

Unfortunately, neither is Bernie. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #109

It is obvious she was trying to skirt foia laws. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #74

Skirt? That's a sexist bash! Bob41213 Apr 2016 #97

I wondered why you of all people think she didn't violate any laws. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #79

I have not heard evidence of criminal conduct. I have heard the FBI plans to recommend indictment Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #94

Here is Hillary's Security Oath and the statute it references, 18 USC Sec. 793. Go ahead and read leveymg Apr 2016 #117

If Obama threatened to veto releasing the "28 pages", there's no chance in hell floriduck Apr 2016 #80

I honestly don't know where you are all getting your information. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #84

That's part of the distinction between civil law and criminal law. Civil law, you just need to show Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #100

Are you saying you havea reasonable doubt that Hillary traded classified docs over a private server? leveymg Apr 2016 #112

In that youtube link I provided they said she exchanged classified email which she had pdsimdars Apr 2016 #121

This article has some interesting comments from security experts 2cannan Apr 2016 #110

Great article and as I said, intelligence officials take it very seriously pdsimdars Apr 2016 #115

Nope.... LenaBaby61 Apr 2016 #87

Are you really a lawyer? Where did you get you JD? CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #96

nope.... eom artyteacher Apr 2016 #102

Is that like foie gras??? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #104

What FOIA rule or law was broken? Do you even know what info FOIA applies to? Jitter65 Apr 2016 #114

Thoughtful, well-written OP, Attorney in Texas. S/B morally persuasive to genuine liberals. senz Apr 2016 #120

this ^ Vote2016 Apr 2016 #125

Apparently FOIA is just another liberal value to do away with. Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #122

Bias confirmation. Eko Apr 2016 #123

Wow - what a jerky post. Worry about your own guy...geez Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2016 #126

I love that my indictment fairy creation is now the #3 google image search for the term Tarc Apr 2016 #127

since you're psychic can I have tomorrow's lotto numbers dlwickham Apr 2016 #128

I wonder if moveon.org will come to Hillary's aid when she is indicted. They formed as a group rhett o rick Apr 2016 #130

Hillary is radioactive. Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #135

Judicial Watch? They've been going after the Clintons since the 90s....nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #134

Judicial Watch's case is not the only one. There are 38 (or more). Is the Associated Press part of Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #138