2016 Postmortem

pampango

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13. Sweden and Germany import much more than we do, yet both have a trade surplus. Why don't we?

Reply to RiverLover (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:56 AM

Apr 2016

They pay their workers as much or more than in the US. How is it that they export so much more than we do?

... he also made permanent trade ...

PNTR with China was necessary in order for it to join the WTO. What makes you think that keeping China out of the WTO would have changed anything in our trade relationship with China?

China was coming out of its self-imposed isolation and poverty no matter what the US did or did not do. There is no way to isolate ourselves from the industrialization of 1.3 billion people. They were not going to 'boot-strap' themselves out of poverty so the rest of the world was bound to be affected.

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Sweden and Germany import much more than we do, yet both have a trade surplus. Why don't we? pampango Apr 2016 #13

It was annual approval. We could have not allowed any trade with China that year instead of RiverLover Apr 2016 #16

"We could have not allowed any trade with China that year instead of permanently allowing it." pampango Apr 2016 #18

Of course your claim is nonsense (as per usual, for you.) We have the largest trade deficit Romulox Apr 2016 #22

Imports are 29% of Sweden's economy; 37% of Germany's economy; 12% of the US economy. pampango Apr 2016 #24

Right, but those economies EXPORT more as a percentage of GDP than we do. Much more. Romulox Apr 2016 #30

I agree. I gave the percentages that show how "much more" they export than we do. pampango Apr 2016 #31

So, your initial point is a deflection, if not outright misleading. Quelle surprise! Romulox Apr 2016 #32

My initial point was "Sweden and Germany import much more than we do, yet both have a trade surplus. pampango Apr 2016 #33

But they also EXPORT several times what we do. Hence, their workers have power where ours have none. Romulox Apr 2016 #34

"More protections" like a repeal of Taft-Hartley, higher progressive taxes for a stronger safety net pampango Apr 2016 #35

Anyone who cares care to can click on your name and see what you've been "pushing for". Romulox Apr 2016 #36

Romulox. RiverLover Apr 2016 #37

Thank you for the comment. It is much appreciated! nt Romulox Apr 2016 #38

They certainly can do that. As Bernie said "Why can't we be more like Scandinavia?" pampango Apr 2016 #39

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We have jobs in this country HughLefty1 Apr 2016 #21

The rust belt began when jobs moved to the sunbelt Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #27

Yep, that about sums it up. RiverLover Apr 2016 #28