2016 Postmortem

beedle

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92. Such as??

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:40 PM

Apr 2016

Any suggested lie claimed of Hillary is not based on something she said in the morning and clarified in the afternoon .. it is based on long term stated policy and voting records, then suddenly when it seems politically convenient she comes out with a totally opposite policy.

Marriage equality for instance ... decades of being against marriage equality, then suddenly just as it becomes politically convenient to be pro-marriage-equality, she 'evolves' like a light-switch.

Hillary's stance on 'superpredators' wasn't her making that speech, then the next day apologizing for saying something racist and ignorant ... it took until this fucking year, an election year no less, and in the middle of the primaries for her to 'clarify' her 'misstatement'.

Bernie said 'yep' in the middle of dozens of other interviews where he provided the correct information, and you play it as though Bernie had been claiming every day for 10 years that he was going to meet the Pope and suddenly claimed he never said that. What the Hell is wrong with you people? Really?

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About that "Sanders campaign operative" who suggested Bernie to the Vatican -- Jeffrey Sachs [View all] Armstead Apr 2016 OP

Obviously he's just a puppet of the Sanders campaign. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #1

Sachs might have made this arrangement as a quid pro quo Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #4

"Stunt"? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #5

You guys keep looping back to the invitation itself. That is NOT it! Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #14

No he didn't beedle Apr 2016 #56

nope Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #65

And if you're only news source is the ENTERTAINMENT show "The View" beedle Apr 2016 #70

So we shouldn't trust what comes out of Bernie's own mouth ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #76

You can trust or not trust it if you want. beedle Apr 2016 #80

I suggest you're not worth having a discussion with ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #87

Such as?? beedle Apr 2016 #92

WOW!!! NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #124

It's hard to call someone a beedle Apr 2016 #125

go find The View video--Yes, Sanders said he was meeting the Pope. riversedge Apr 2016 #122

No, he said 'yep" to a question on an entrainment talk show beedle Apr 2016 #123

Wow. Such desperation. revbones Apr 2016 #6

Sachs would have been a big hero on DU before these primaries. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #12

Morning Joe introduced Sachs as Bernie's foreign policy advisor on a March 31 LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #83

Considering Sachs' positions on economic justice, I guess it makes sense The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #85

Then it should also make sense to you that Margaret Archer's LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #88

Msgr. Sorondo, who is in charge of the conference, says it was not true. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #90

You, my friend, have found exactly the right word to describe this whole invite mess. brush Apr 2016 #42

Stunt you say? TM99 Apr 2016 #59

All the more reason he should be campaigning in New York brush Apr 2016 #74

Well it seems like TM99 Apr 2016 #77

Ok, you win. New Yorkers won't mind that he left the country instead of trying to get their vote. brush Apr 2016 #81

I am sure the high number of Catholic voters TM99 Apr 2016 #98

Maybe, but he won't be in New York, he'll be out of the country. Let's see how it plays out. brush Apr 2016 #101

And Hillary will be at a $350k/plate fundraiser with George Clooney, the 1%, and other celebrities riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #109

Well, we'll both have to see. brush Apr 2016 #110

Except Pope Francis has a history.of stopping by these events riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #69

Well we'll see then, won't we. brush Apr 2016 #75

Kudos to Sachs. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #2

Problem is, he ain't the Pope. Hoyt Apr 2016 #3

How astute. He ain't the President either. I think there is a long line of schit he ain't. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #7

Well, Sanders is supposed to meet with the Pope, or so we were told. Hoyt Apr 2016 #10

Do you even have a point? rhett o rick Apr 2016 #111

Yes, invoking the Pope to gain an edge in NYork is quite sleazy, don't you think? Hoyt Apr 2016 #113

And once again in the form of a question. This isn't Jeapordy. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #116

I doubt the charitable foundation is a retirement plan, that would definitely be grounds to Hoyt Apr 2016 #117

You mean Bill and Hillary can't be on the Board of Directors and determine their own salary? rhett o rick Apr 2016 #118

There is a pretty tight limit on inurement with non-profits. Even if they somehow managed to pay Hoyt Apr 2016 #119

So you say H. Clinton is now willing to raise the cap on SS? When did this change? rhett o rick Apr 2016 #120

You can read it on her campaign website. You need to get a better calculator regarding contributions Hoyt Apr 2016 #121

Did Bernie actually say he was personally invited by the Pope himself? Armstead Apr 2016 #11

Yes, he said. It's on video. HE SAID IT. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #15

He bungled a statement by a host in one interview (The View) but he did not say it himself Armstead Apr 2016 #22

LOL! He bungled the difference between "Yes" and "No"? LOL!!! Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #25

Yes or No? Aye or Nay? Oui ou Non? Yup or Nope? It's hard for a guy Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #126

So, elitist. (giggle) CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #8

Oh. My. God. When will you get this? The Vatican did not invite Sanders. Period. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #16

LOL! I love how much this bothers you. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #18

Yeah, I have this thing called integrity. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #20

Who are you supporting? Armstead Apr 2016 #23

Ah, so we agree Bernie lied. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #31

That's totally not what I said. Armstead Apr 2016 #36

How noble. Zeus speed! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #24

You are caught in a lie and you shrug it off with, "How noble?" Holy flying fuck. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #27

I'm not the one lying here. Or having a meltdown over something so silly. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #29

I haven't seen such anti-Catholic hateful rhetoric used against someone in a campaign since Kennedy Dragonfli Apr 2016 #58

You're having a hissy. 840high Apr 2016 #28

Isn't it hilarious? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #30

WTF are you talking about. TM99 Apr 2016 #61

You guys have repeated this so often you now believe it to be true. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #63

The only one lying is you. TM99 Apr 2016 #67

Sachs says Sorondo reached out to him to contact Bernie. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #9

It sure as shit wasn't the Pope, was it? That's what Sanders claimed on The View! Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #17

I hope they keep posting that all week, just to piss people off. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #21

I saw that and I've commented on it already riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #26

No. That is not what happened. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #41

I freely admit he made no correction. You did read my post right? riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #50

Here's the video Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #60

Bernie Sanders turned me into a newt! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #64

I've seen it. Twice nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #66

It's pretty straight forward. I don't see how we could be having this conversation. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #68

I've told you how it looks to me riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #71

Finally, somebody can explain what happened.. pangaia Apr 2016 #46

I mean honestly the show looks pretty fluffy riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #57

it WAS the Pope, I heard him say it.. pangaia Apr 2016 #38

It's true! He posted it on my Facebook wall! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #39

Damn, mine two. (not a typo) pangaia Apr 2016 #43

I guess our friend is out of the loop. Must suck to be snubbed by the pope. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #45

Who's frank? pangaia Apr 2016 #48

That's what the pope asked me to call him after he told me he secretly endorsed Bernie. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #49

DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Apr 2016 #53

Thank you for this, they dismissed him as simply a "surrogate" of Bernie's. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #13

No, Sachs was dismissed as "not the Pope." Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #19

NOT THE POPE, NOT THE POPE! SQUAWK!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #33

Well, of course he's not the Pope. pangaia Apr 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author kenn3d Apr 2016 #32

Um, source of that quote? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #37

Bernieland nt TMontoya Apr 2016 #40

Lol, that quote is from a satirical site. PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #51

Thankyou - Deleted kenn3d Apr 2016 #114

Come on, man. You made that up. pangaia Apr 2016 #34

I did he's really Paul Krugman in disguise Armstead Apr 2016 #52

LOL !! pangaia Apr 2016 #55

Here's the reality if you can deal with it. jimmy_crack_corn Apr 2016 #35

To be fair: The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #54

Ok so she didn't donate but.. jimmy_crack_corn Apr 2016 #105

Camp Clinton is absolutely livid that the pope believes Sanders to be a good man who Doctor_J Apr 2016 #47

+1000 DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #73

Well she's been beat up & she's still standing. jillan Apr 2016 #102

Same here. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #106

kick warrprayer Apr 2016 #62

No one I have heard has a problem with Sachs. seabeyond Apr 2016 #72

Oooooh, I bet I can prove you wrong, seabeyond WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #82

Well, I haven't seen it. seabeyond Apr 2016 #84

.. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #89

Lol Lol Lol. Well, I wasn't really talking the whole world. More, DU. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #91

Well, in a different thread, in a different decade, I certainly talked poo WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #97

Ya, whatever. seabeyond Apr 2016 #99

Great... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #78

Be still my heart. I think I'm in love. azmom Apr 2016 #79

this article by Dr. Jeffrey Sachs probably aggravates, too: amborin Apr 2016 #86

I hope so Armstead Apr 2016 #93

Nope. It illuminates that this was a made for TV politicizing of the Academy event. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #95

Why are so many Hill fans hung up on title, position, status, and power? senz Apr 2016 #94

Unfortunately, I think too many have bought into the Third Way mentality Armstead Apr 2016 #96

If so, it's the MSM's fault. In support of capitalism, they've been valorizing wealth senz Apr 2016 #103

He was a fierce critic of Clinton's deregulatiobn of the media in the 90's Armstead Apr 2016 #104

I would have expected it of Bernie but haven't run across it yet. senz Apr 2016 #108

I agree TM99 Apr 2016 #100

A dumbed down populace cannot defend itself nor its democratic governance. senz Apr 2016 #107

My God, this man needs to be cloned. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #112

Quite the Resume! 2banon Apr 2016 #115