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jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
84. uhm
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

Pretty sure we're on the same side. My point was that Sanders supporters are fond of pointing out that he inspires certain demographics that democrats will need to get to the polls in November such as young people. Then they make reference to her victories in southern states as somehow related to the 150 year gone confederacy, implying these states are more conservative and won't vote democrat in the GE anyway so those wins somehow mean less. Leaving aside the fact that most of the mountain west where most of his recent caucus wins have taken place will also be red in November, the reason her lead is nearly insurmountable at this point is not because she won in the south. It's because she won by huge margins in the south making it very difficult for him to counter those margins even if he can rack up wins in the west and northeast. The basis of those roughly 70-30 margins is that she's winning with people of color by tremendous percentages and there are a lot of them in those places. Of course minorities are just as important for democrats to inspire in November as young people or independents, but it somehow obscures this dynamic by calling them the confederacy or saying she only wins in "the south".

Stir it up, nt. Broward Apr 2016 #1
It is like there is a break down in the synapses. artislife Apr 2016 #25
OK, then, what did he mean by that? Adrahil Apr 2016 #30
Means that most of her votes came early in the South artislife Apr 2016 #39
Southern voters tend to be more Conservative, that's why we get DINOs there all the time Dragonfli Apr 2016 #42
Cringe...Sander's support calling southern voters DINOs...the irony...n/ter Henhouse Apr 2016 #105
No, not the voters but many of those running for office in red states, you hadn't noticed that? Dragonfli Apr 2016 #113
Yes, it DOES appear that Sanders has been having trouble Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #37
Wall St. enid602 Apr 2016 #56
Wonder if he'll tone it down a bit in the coming days, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #64
Sorry, that statement was very much on message for the Sanders campaign. merrily Apr 2016 #72
He's correct here, though. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #98
Sanders should take care not to verbalize a marginalization of Southern States Sheepshank Apr 2016 #44
I don't think he's marginalizing them. hollowdweller Apr 2016 #60
Does Hillary marginalize Utah? She didn't campaign in Utah primary nor did Obama in 2008 GE imagine2015 Apr 2016 #66
I live in Utah Sheepshank Apr 2016 #76
Smart campaign management, nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #99
When it comes to electoral college math, they kind of don't matter. Sorry. reformist2 Apr 2016 #2
So you vote other than Democrat? notadmblnd Apr 2016 #10
Yes, YOUR SIMPLE CONCISE Answer Is The Only Reasonable Response... The Rest Is NONSENSE! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #34
Don't matter to Democrats because they go Republican in the general. merrily Apr 2016 #70
Like I said...tell that to my Congressman, Jim Clyburn...n/t Henhouse Apr 2016 #93
Remind me: In which Presidential general election did Clyburn get the state's electoral votes? merrily Apr 2016 #94
Nevermind....I follow all the elections...not just the one every four years...N/t Henhouse Apr 2016 #97
Please see Reply 102 and, again, please do try to focus. merrily Apr 2016 #106
Obama won VA and FL twice and NC once dsc Apr 2016 #82
Evidently not! n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #3
Pandering to New York. As has been mentioned here before, MoonRiver Apr 2016 #4
Please explain to me how that comment is pandering. notadmblnd Apr 2016 #13
Subtle dig at the "low information confederate states". nt oasis Apr 2016 #55
That too. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #67
Baloney. Southern states go Republican in the general is the point. merrily Apr 2016 #74
Are you for real....There's a lot more than the presidential election at stake... Henhouse Apr 2016 #95
Please focus: The thread is about Presidential candidates in a Presidential primary. merrily Apr 2016 #102
Actually it is about Sander's dismissing southern votes...which.. Henhouse Apr 2016 #107
ACTUALLY, he specified that Hillary's Presidential primary wins were in Southern States and the OP merrily Apr 2016 #111
Um... theres's what? Three Senate Democrats from the South? Fawke Em Apr 2016 #104
He obviously sees merit in continuing to drop that in BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #5
What it means is that voting in the south is over.... Bernie is doing well in the rest of the states virtualobserver Apr 2016 #6
It means a lot of votes came from the south Perogie Apr 2016 #7
Is it possible that these are the states that are going R in the GE anyway? Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #73
What that means is she's getting Autumn Apr 2016 #8
Context would be helpful. GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #9
It means she's getting more votes. Period. Vinca Apr 2016 #11
The West is lost to her, if we are going to go even further. artislife Apr 2016 #26
I think it means those votes from the south won't help as we lose those states in the GE anyway. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #12
It means he's trying...desperately..to divide Democrats. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #14
You mean you think he is now doing PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #21
And Hillary is bringing in the neocons. Robert Kagan already endorsed her. What next? think Apr 2016 #28
I think this is it exactly - link the South to Hillary - and the Union, er, I mean the North to him DrDan Apr 2016 #59
It means she pulled ahead early and that those votes came from the South. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #15
Well he doesn't mean red states because he counts those votes. Must mean AA votes n/t Henhouse Apr 2016 #16
Hateful. nt artislife Apr 2016 #36
He also said "Fracking" and then went off about the minimum wage. IamMab Apr 2016 #17
Yes, because is supposedly is a one-issue guy, right? Wrong. djean111 Apr 2016 #24
Hey...please stop. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #18
My point is this. It is unlikely that either of the Democratic candidates would be able to win the Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #23
Bernie thinks they are, but knows they have already voted northernsouthern Apr 2016 #47
"sounds to me that Bernie thinks those voters are unimportant in selecting the Democratic nominee" - thesquanderer Apr 2016 #65
OF COURSE HE MEANT "THE SOUTH DOESN'T COUNT"!!! TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #19
If It Weren't For Your Name ... srobert Apr 2016 #54
Well played! Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #79
people in the south matter lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #20
Well the U.S. Is broken into multiple regions rufus dog Apr 2016 #22
Some people are gonna hear what they want. NWCorona Apr 2016 #27
Here I will help since you asked! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #29
Nicely done. Scuba Apr 2016 #31
He sounded angry and was talking very fast KingFlorez Apr 2016 #32
Quoting some of the posts in GeeDeePee! LOL! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #43
Fast Talking Yankees srobert Apr 2016 #58
He just can't help himself. Open mouth, insert foot... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #33
It's understandable that non progressive votes would come from the South. Lint Head Apr 2016 #35
It means you are making a mountain out of a mole hill to coverup Bill Clinton. B Calm Apr 2016 #38
He isn't a Clinton, so you don't need to read more into it. Jackilope Apr 2016 #40
Good point...We've become used to candidates who never speak directly as humans Armstead Apr 2016 #51
No. LWolf Apr 2016 #41
Thank you for this clear post. eom PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #50
It's a secret code only actual progressives can understand. 99Forever Apr 2016 #45
It means she's got more votes, and a lot of it came from the South. n/t FourScore Apr 2016 #46
dissing the majority of black voters there bigtree Apr 2016 #48
You are delusional or dishonest. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #52
How about Bernie, who VOTED FOR that crime bill? MoonRiver Apr 2016 #69
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar Armstead Apr 2016 #49
Well said SHRED Apr 2016 #53
+100 Myrina Apr 2016 #89
Seems like a pretty straightforward statement. And a true one. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #57
Name recognition. She had it. In those states voting early. Momentum. Bernie has it now. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #61
It means Obama could not carry the south in the GE and Hillary won't if she captures the nomination. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #62
"She's getting more votes..." jcgoldie Apr 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author MoonRiver Apr 2016 #71
uhm jcgoldie Apr 2016 #84
Sorry, I need to read posts a little more carefully. You are spot on! MoonRiver Apr 2016 #101
Southern states are unlikely to go Democratic in the general. That's been posted here for weeks. merrily Apr 2016 #68
Neither will... jcgoldie Apr 2016 #86
I haven't checked lately, but Bernie won by a large margin over Trump in Utah in one poll and merrily Apr 2016 #87
Pretty sure comparing primary vote totals between the 2 parties is meaningless jcgoldie Apr 2016 #90
Maybe, maybe not. But, before November, head to head polls are the only predictors we have. merrily Apr 2016 #91
this has nothing to do with head to head polls jcgoldie Apr 2016 #108
? A primary poll comparing a Republican with a Democrat is often referred to as a head to head poll. merrily Apr 2016 #112
Obama did not campaign in Georgia Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #120
Bernie will get well over 90% of the Black vote in the General Election. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #75
so why is it jcgoldie Apr 2016 #85
Sanders and his camp are divisive. riversedge Apr 2016 #77
Congratulations! You just got my ignore of the day award. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #78
Might as well ignore me too delicate flower....I'm in South Carolina...n/t Henhouse Apr 2016 #80
It's a factual acknowledgement. Honestly. snowy owl Apr 2016 #81
I suspect it has to do with the false meme that Hillary uses based on "total votes" where the word Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #83
According to some of Sen Sanders' supporters they don't mcar Apr 2016 #88
My vote comes from the south and my congressional district has been electing Rep. Jim Clyburn Henhouse Apr 2016 #92
Your vote matters as it should in the primaries, because it's a primary election between Dems. All in it together Apr 2016 #114
It means our Southern states will never go blue. Period. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #96
Right...Because Arkansas never elected Bill Clinton and Georgia never Elected Jimmy Carter...n/t Henhouse Apr 2016 #103
You need to update your calendar. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #110
Typical of Clinton supporters to turn a fact... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #100
Guess that... chillfactor Apr 2016 #109
See post 114 All in it together Apr 2016 #115
He also said "strawman purchases" while discussing guns which made me cringe. PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #116
Sounds like a simple statement of fact to me. arcane1 Apr 2016 #117
Humm when is it okay to mention 'race'? beedle Apr 2016 #118
YAWN. The South is more conservative, so more attracted to Hillary's more conservative TheDormouse Apr 2016 #119
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