2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:56 AM Apr 2016

Bill's attack on the BLM protesters: fair & defensible, or not? [View all]

An good intro, for those who haven't yet heard about this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1675780

Corollary question: If Bill had done this two days before Super Tuesday, what effect do you think it would have had on the results in those states?

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	7 (10%)
	Unfair and Indefensible
	61 (90%)
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	0 (0%)
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Bill's attack on the BLM protesters: fair & defensible, or not? [View all] Ken Burch Apr 2016 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author imari362 Apr 2016 #1

This is will go down in history as one of Bill's worse moments. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #2

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #3

Did Bill say that? You seem confused. morningfog Apr 2016 #4

No, Sanders did uponit7771 Apr 2016 #5

Oh, you are confused. This is about Bill Clinton's racist rant. morningfog Apr 2016 #7

I thought it was Trump iwannaknow Apr 2016 #17

Wow. That's the worst quote I've seen today (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #6

No it isn't and your positions on race are far too suspect to take you seriously. morningfog Apr 2016 #8

And associating "ghettos" with "African American communities" is not "suspect" at all. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #9

Compared to you and Bill CLinton? No. morningfog Apr 2016 #10

Well at least you're being more civil than last time. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #13

Was that the last time? Can't be. How time flies. Yet nothing changes. morningfog Apr 2016 #14

Jury Results MineralMan Apr 2016 #15

Thanks MM (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #16

Ghettos are associated with African Americans noiretextatique Apr 2016 #26

FACT NOT IN DISPUTE: Racist think ghettos are associated with blacks and persist its meme uponit7771 Apr 2016 #35

This is just silly...have you read his racial justice plank? noiretextatique Apr 2016 #42

Irrelevant, it could've been written by Malcom X himself and the statement is still racist & urtful uponit7771 Apr 2016 #55

Get the f outta here noiretextatique Apr 2016 #59

red herring, nothing to do with the ghetto statement uponit7771 Apr 2016 #60

And this post is met with silence. vintx Apr 2016 #36

I replied to the racist meme, now what?! uponit7771 Apr 2016 #37

The fact that Hillary's supporters are more concerned with putting on a show vintx Apr 2016 #39

Strawman, no one is concerned about putting on anything. That meme is racist on its face, Red.. uponit7771 Apr 2016 #40

Substance is a red herring - but parsing words is meaningful. vintx Apr 2016 #41

And fng Bill Clinton gets a pass, and Haiti?! Claims it didn't happen noiretextatique Apr 2016 #46

Nope, Clinton doesn't get a pass on anything.. he's just been there, so at least he'll argue with us uponit7771 Apr 2016 #57

Read the comment about Haitian garment workers noiretextatique Apr 2016 #47

"if its true..." sigh... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #58

Substance isn't associating blacks with ghettos, that's stupidity uponit7771 Apr 2016 #56

No comment about the racism in Haiti? noiretextatique Apr 2016 #61

Got a link, can't find anything on this nothingburger uponit7771 Apr 2016 #62

This after Bill's racially-charged meltdown noiretextatique Apr 2016 #43

Yesterday I posted that the Clintons' chief campaign strategy is tone policing XemaSab Apr 2016 #67

Another Sistah Souljah moment for Bill? noiretextatique Apr 2016 #75

You voted fair and defensible, yet you have been outspoken when it comes to racially insensitive morningfog Apr 2016 #11

Yeap, Clinton gets the benefit of the doubt. Someone who had a person who called Obama niggerized uponit7771 Apr 2016 #32

Clinton gets the benefit of doubt...WHY? noiretextatique Apr 2016 #44

Cause they didn't have someone who called Obama niggerized stump for them in front of mostly white uponit7771 Apr 2016 #52

Superpredators! How soon you forget noiretextatique Apr 2016 #54

Not talking about Black's how awfully racist for some to think she was uponit7771 Apr 2016 #70

Yes. You practice racist apologia in defense of your candidate, morningfog Apr 2016 #51

I think Bill should apologize for that itsrobert Apr 2016 #24

Nah, after listening to him his defense sounded reasonable uponit7771 Apr 2016 #33

Reasonable. noiretextatique Apr 2016 #77

Podium bird logic = reasonable is the sad... sigh uponit7771 Apr 2016 #78

trivial compared to defending mass incarceration Ken Burch Apr 2016 #25

Any comments on Hillary blocking a wage increase noiretextatique Apr 2016 #27

Nope, she doesn't think podium birds mean too much of anything so it sounds like her decisions uponit7771 Apr 2016 #34

What? Is this the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears? noiretextatique Apr 2016 #45

Nah, just looking at how people react to podium birds and deciding accordingly uponit7771 Apr 2016 #53

You sure love that bird TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #63

The bird thing has nothing to do with this. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #65

There is no "nuance" that makes it acceptable to oppose wage increases in Haiti Ken Burch Apr 2016 #49

+1000 the hypocrisy on this issue is stunning noiretextatique Apr 2016 #50

When you talk about ghettos beedle Apr 2016 #66

Poor places...southy Boston... West Virginia... The "unexposed" only think about Blacks uponit7771 Apr 2016 #71

So then Sanders is right beedle Apr 2016 #72

No, when you think about ghettos only the unexposed and racist think about blacks... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #73

Ignorance? beedle Apr 2016 #74

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #12

shut the fuck up, Bill geek tragedy Apr 2016 #18

No, keep talking Big Dawg! Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #22

Thanks for that. n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2016 #31

Imagine if Trump had said the exact same thing. B2G Apr 2016 #19

And this is the defining characteristic of the segment of the electorate vintx Apr 2016 #38

I thought it was disgusting Rebkeh Apr 2016 #20

good. nt Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #21

Ha. And now they're throwing BLM under the bus in The Hive. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author imari362 Apr 2016 #28

There should be a third oprion: "Incredibly stupid" Marrah_G Apr 2016 #29

+1000 n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #30

nevermind. nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #48

There's no excuse Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #64

Watching MSBC this morning beedle Apr 2016 #68

The codes and condescension weren't only for that audience. Octafish Apr 2016 #69

after seeing this video of Hillary's Saturday night racist jokes... grasswire Apr 2016 #76