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Showing Original Post only (View all)How in the hell is anybody actually defending what Bill said to those BLM activists?!? [View all]
I want to cover just a few lines that Bill said to the people of the United States of America today...I dont know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent them out into the street to murder other African American children. Maybe you thought they were good citizensshe didnt.
In that line, Bill Clinton pulled some politician jiu jitsu. That tactic is to twist the message of your opponent. Bill saw BLM activists as opponents and twisted their message to infer that they were supportive of gang leaders that murdered AA children. What in the actual FUCK. And no, that's not a misinterpretation. BLM stands to make us all aware of the large prejudices that still permeate throughout our nation, especially in terms of crime and law enforcement. Do they not? They stand for equal representation of black people.
When you hear that comment coming from Bill Clinton's mouth, do you think he's truthfully describing what BLM is standing for? Do you really?
You are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter. Tell the truth.
Again, here he is, telling BLM that ACTUALLY, they defend murderers. And they should totally fess up. Again, I'm not misinterpreting here either. He's literally telling them what they actually mean. Would you defend Bill's commentary here? Would you really?
The reason they know its true is [the protestors] wont hush. When somebody wont hush and listen to you, that aint democracy. Theyre afraid of the truth. Dont you be afraid of the truth.
This is some schoolyard bullying tactic right here. "They won't shut up, so I'm right." Really? That's a false equivalency there, Bill. Wanna fold your arms and go "NUH UH" while you're at it?
Then this comment, "When somebody won't hush and listen to you, that ain't democracy." So... It's only democracy when the people shut up and listen to you Bill? Because it goes both ways, maybe you should be the one that hushes and start the listening. Remember when Bernie was protested by BLM in Seattle? He tried to have a dialogue, realized he wasn't allowed to speak, handed over his mic, and LISTENED. Bill? Points the finger at BLM, twists their message, shouts them down, gets them escorted out.
Yep, Clintons are real champions of the people.
How can anyone defend this bullshit? And don't come in here and tell me a simple one liner like, "You don't get it" and forget to explain it to me, because seriously, I would LOVE to know what I'm missing here. This is crazy. I hate the idea of the possibility of our next president being a duo of people who literally get in the face of protestors and lecture them. That is just wrong.
EDIT: REMOVED THE "AFRICA" COMMENT because 2 hours later, somebody finally explained the context below and how it related to Hillary's work against AIDS in Africa. It took 2 fucking hours to get a real response to that one, just want everyone to notice that.
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How in the hell is anybody actually defending what Bill said to those BLM activists?!? [View all]
retrowire
Apr 2016
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Sanders supporters were called racist for suggesting BLM adopt different tactics
arcane1
Apr 2016
#41
Exactly. The Clintons like African-Americans just as far as they can exploit them.
mhatrw
Apr 2016
#108
I was on the fence for a bit, needing more information and not the usual out of context
AuntPatsy
Apr 2016
#7
Well I can as I I'm sure many others can as well take the comment for what it is.."
AuntPatsy
Apr 2016
#23
Bill needs to read this book: Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Cocaine Explosion
cui bono
Apr 2016
#13
I must have missed something, Is it BILL Clinton running 4 Dem nomination? I thought it was Hillary?
Bill USA
Apr 2016
#18
Surrogates are fair game in politics. We realize Hillary's supporters believe special rules to apply
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Apr 2016
#121
You can defend it if you lived it and lost family lives from gangs and thugs. That's how!! nt
Jitter65
Apr 2016
#27
I just didn't hear it like you heard it. Civility works both ways...except where BS supporters are
Jitter65
Apr 2016
#51
"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. "
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#32
Bill gets the benefit of the doubt, I've not even read what he said ... Sanders does not especially
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#42
Nope, he defended his wife Sanders had Cornell West stump for him... any questions? tia
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#45
Nah, just Sanders doesn't have much room to talk when it comes to BLM. Cornell West stumping
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#70
None of those people stumped for Clinton after calling Obama niggerized like Cornell West did last..
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#74
I may not agree with what he said, but I'll defend to the death his right to say it.
retrowire
Apr 2016
#76
It isn't just "one" statement from West or Sanders either ... it's a continued strain from them in
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#79
Strawman, no one said that... and calling Obama "niggerized" and having that person stump
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#87
They're not one person but when it comes to Obama they're of one mind: They don't like him...
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#91
So out of 12341234 issues you name 8 and Obama aint shit hunh... but... but... people have syndromes
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#120
Nope, wonderful relationships kept for years... the same can't be said for Sanders and then
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#119
Yeap, imperfect but there... vs absent until votes are needed that's way more bullshit than whatever
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#126
In churches, schools, community centers and doesn't choose someone who called Obama niggerized
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#128
The person who's always been there speaking on a communities issues have more credibility than
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#130
truth only to racist minded folk or those who don't have normal exposure to a wide swath of balcks
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#158
The phrase "super predator" by Hillary was a reference to crack dealers in black neighborhoods
brush
Apr 2016
#106
That's right. Them and their agents, the higher up, intermediate level and local pushers . . .
brush
Apr 2016
#186
BLM is supposed to be about Police brutality/excessive force. Not standing up for drug dealers/gangs
timlot
Apr 2016
#40
I've always been supportive of BLM and I've posted this video in the past, Bill is a known entity to
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#82
I want see those in the AA group vouch for what Bill Clinton said a few hours ago.
mhatrw
Apr 2016
#115
IF stats are consistent and Democratic Underground is 90% white, it would
Jackie Wilson Said
Apr 2016
#152
Because to the true believers Hillary not only walks on water, her shoes don't even get damp.
hobbit709
Apr 2016
#62
Well that's because we didn't let emotion impede our ability to reason with each other.
retrowire
Apr 2016
#75
How is anybody defending someone who called Obama niggerized stumping for Sanders in front of
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#69
wow... now you're standing behind semantics... typical... no really typical.
uponit7771
Apr 2016
#188
You have people here who will defend DWS's support for putting medical marijuana users in prison.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2016
#117
Divide and conquer is always the plan used by an elite group outnumbered by those they oppress.
Dragonfli
Apr 2016
#161
So, you are whinning that you did not get a real response? I passed it by when I read your
riversedge
Apr 2016
#166
Why not? They've already defended him for getting blowjobs from young interns in the Whitehouse
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#170