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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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74. I had heard of Bernie Sanders (been listening to Thom since 2008) and the new Jim Crow Laws, but had
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:44 AM
Apr 2016

never heard of Michelle Alexander until she wrote her article prior to South Carolina. I fell in love with her because, as a white man, it was nice to hear a black woman saying what I can only observe, and so much more, of course. But, it turns out, she's every bit of a lightning rod for having said it, so being a white guy really wasn't all-that, after all.

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"Articulate?" geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1
Are you joking? She is incredibly well spoken. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #2
Google "articulate black people" geek tragedy Apr 2016 #7
I'm having trouble believing somebody could be that clueless Recursion Apr 2016 #13
"Stockholm syndrome" was enthusiastically received by dozens geek tragedy Apr 2016 #15
At what point do we move beyond ascribing "articulate" as an insult to black folks Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #37
When we start insulting while people as 'uppity' geek tragedy Apr 2016 #49
Indeed. Only white people can be articulate. No black people allowed to be articulate. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #39
If you're aware that it's offensive that should be the end of the inquiry nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #50
So describing white people as articulate is a good thing. But doing such to black folks is a bad Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #63
The problem is that it isn't used to describe white peoples geek tragedy Apr 2016 #64
I gave the link when Hillary was described as such. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #65
1992, and query whether a similar dynamic geek tragedy Apr 2016 #66
So white women could only be articulate then and black people can be articulate never. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #67
See edits to post. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #68
Absolutely untrue.. whathehell Apr 2016 #124
Sure, whatever, if that's how you want to put it Recursion Apr 2016 #61
Umm, that might say more about you? I followed without difficulty. snowy owl Apr 2016 #102
OMG Recursion Apr 2016 #12
I had no idea that was a slur. Fuck me for not knowing right? Yeah, I guess that's the idea. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #19
Well now you know. You can edit your OP if you like (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #21
It's not my OP. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #22
Ah, sorry. Well I hope the OP edits it (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #23
Any white person can be articulate but no black person can be. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #42
When was the last time you heard a white person described as "articulate"? Recursion Apr 2016 #45
Hillary Clinton would be articulate first lady.. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #56
Exactly. 24 years ago Recursion Apr 2016 #57
So you saying that she would not be articulate. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #59
I'm saying it's factually hurtful to a lot of black people to call a black person "articulate" Recursion Apr 2016 #60
Really,? whathehell Apr 2016 #81
Those two really did a number on you! delrem Apr 2016 #25
It's fascinating. Despite my having never known that that was a stereotype, I still JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #26
It's where they've dug in. Poor buggers... delrem Apr 2016 #30
Blank folks are not allowed to be articulate. That is a decretive solely reserved for white folks. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #43
That's a, "Wow! You speak so well!" thing Rebkeh Apr 2016 #3
Smart =/= Articulate kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #4
Did you expect her to not be articulate? Rebkeh Apr 2016 #5
No he didn't. kristopher Apr 2016 #10
Disruption would letting the comment go unaddressed Rebkeh Apr 2016 #58
If kcjohn1 didn't know it was a dog whistle then how could it be something to overcome? JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #11
I said sort of. Besides, intentions don't matter as much as people think Rebkeh Apr 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #24
It only seems hypersensitive to some white people. .. kwassa Apr 2016 #32
Only if that person is aware of the history. Otherwise it is just a trigger word. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #35
True, and yet people double down anyway Rebkeh Apr 2016 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #41
So what does it mean when it's used on a white person? whathehell Apr 2016 #80
I disagree with your terms of usage ... kwassa Apr 2016 #83
So one should never tell a Black person they are articulate? whathehell Apr 2016 #97
That would be a good idea. kwassa Apr 2016 #119
Any other good qualities I should remember not to compliment black people on? whathehell Apr 2016 #121
I hope your judgment improves with experience. kwassa Apr 2016 #122
I hope yours improves with maturity.. whathehell Apr 2016 #123
I don't know who you are .... kwassa Apr 2016 #125
I don't know who you are.. whathehell Apr 2016 #126
Aaaand, I'm done Rebkeh Apr 2016 #51
No one is calling kcjohn a racist. We're suggesting that they use different language. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #16
You are trying to use racially oriented bullshit to disrupt a thread that hurts Clinton. kristopher Apr 2016 #18
so concerned about the use of that word.....but not concerned with Ms. Alexander's words.. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #34
??? Rebkeh Apr 2016 #55
Yeah. What was this thread about again? Fuddnik Apr 2016 #76
Michelle Alexander: Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote kristopher Apr 2016 #99
Really. If she were white, describing as articulate would be a good thing. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #46
Right Rebkeh Apr 2016 #48
The point is that it only gets applied to block people and geek tragedy Apr 2016 #53
Ridiculous! Articulate is a $5 word. I doubt you use it much. I use it a lot - I'm a teacher. snowy owl Apr 2016 #103
Oh, bullshit..It's a compliment used on all sorts of people whathehell Apr 2016 #78
Yep, Chris Rock talked about that 20 yrs ago re: Colin Powell back in 1996 stevenleser Apr 2016 #113
Exaactly Rebkeh Apr 2016 #115
As soon as I read your comment I went looking for that bit on Youtube because I never forgot it. stevenleser Apr 2016 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #6
Ann Coulter is also "articulate" and wrong most of the time. oasis Apr 2016 #8
Well if you think Michelle Alexander is wrong perhaps you can use the "reply" button to explain why? JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #9
Congressional Black Caucus members, John Lewis, Gregory Meeks or oasis Apr 2016 #17
They have never addressed the content of Michelle Alexander's commentary. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #20
They probably chalk Michelle up as just another malcontent hitching oasis Apr 2016 #29
You did not listen to a word she said. Not one minute of this interview. jillan Apr 2016 #33
I saw the entire interview when it aired ealier. MA's spin oasis Apr 2016 #38
On Msnbc? They only played a portion of it. jillan Apr 2016 #40
MSNBC yes. Coupled with the title, that portion was sufficient. nt oasis Apr 2016 #44
"articulate" is an honorary term. delrem Apr 2016 #27
Once upon articulate referred to pronouncing all syllables present HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #85
In this case it means fluent in getting a great many important points across. delrem Apr 2016 #106
Everyone is entitled to an opinion HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #107
You been tokin a little bit? Hey, just keep on chooglin delrem Apr 2016 #108
I think your wording is fine metroins Apr 2016 #28
This is the first time I have heard her speak. What a brilliant woman. jillan Apr 2016 #31
Hayes only put 2 minutes of that interview into his show? BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #47
They have to make sure that they report on every thing Trump did and said today. jillan Apr 2016 #54
A brilliant speaker, delrem Apr 2016 #36
See? That wasn't so hard Recursion Apr 2016 #62
shiver..... /nt delrem Apr 2016 #72
Wow. The sjw managed to hijack this thread. Doctor_J Apr 2016 #69
Thanks for introducing me to sjw. I had to look it up and it is a perfect descriptor BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #88
After hearing her speak oswaldactedalone Apr 2016 #70
But her reporting is slanted and incomplete. Jitter65 Apr 2016 #71
"Reporting"? Michelle A. is intentionally "distorting". oasis Apr 2016 #86
woah! That's deep criticism. delrem Apr 2016 #109
A hack is a hack, no matter how "articulate" they may be. nt oasis Apr 2016 #110
By not saying anything except ad hominem, you don't show yourself well. /nt delrem Apr 2016 #111
Of course it's okay for M.A. to highlight the Clinton's negatives . oasis Apr 2016 #114
Michelle Alexander made assertions about Clinton's negatives. delrem Apr 2016 #117
Every politician AND every journalist can do better. (eom) oasis Apr 2016 #118
deep. delrem Apr 2016 #120
Amazing that within this long thread, there are only a few replies about what she actually said Armstead Apr 2016 #73
Thread Hijacking 101. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #77
Hillary Clinton's supporters have a limited repertoire. delrem Apr 2016 #112
I had heard of Bernie Sanders (been listening to Thom since 2008) and the new Jim Crow Laws, but had WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #74
She IS incredibly articulate and Hayes let her talk! I really enjoyed the interview! nc4bo Apr 2016 #75
Hayes let her talk because he was cowed by her BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #89
Heh. Really. nc4bo Apr 2016 #91
good post...it is amazing that you brought out the thought police as opposed to comments islandmkl Apr 2016 #79
when a person uses the "articulate" hopemountain Apr 2016 #82
I am going to suggest politely that you need to learn to look at individual situations and context BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #92
yes she is dana_b Apr 2016 #84
She is absolutely right on the money. I hope this interview goes viral as it should. litlbilly Apr 2016 #93
I know that it was pretty popular on twitter dana_b Apr 2016 #94
Never heard of her...GO HILLARY!!! asuhornets Apr 2016 #87
Go educate yourself. You might learn something besides what establishment is selling you. nt nc4bo Apr 2016 #90
Law degree from Stanford and recipient of a 2005 Soros Justice Fellowship of the Open Society Ins. snowy owl Apr 2016 #104
Excellent. Sorry this thread was derailed by idiocy. JackRiddler Apr 2016 #95
Every nexus where opposition to the elite's choice (HRC) shall be eliminated... kristopher Apr 2016 #98
WTF? "articulate" is racist? What complete bull. panader0 Apr 2016 #96
Michelle Alexander: Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote kristopher Apr 2016 #100
Thank you LWolf Apr 2016 #101
You're welcome. kristopher Apr 2016 #105
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