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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Newsflash: most people don't like huge tax increases. [View all]WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)119. Pay attention, Dan, I'll explain what you really need to know
Hillary's camp wants more of the same, which means another Goldman Sachs Admin willing to cut pro-corporate deals that benefit the rich and your 401K (fuel the bubble) at the expense of the middle class.
Bernie's camp is calling "Bullshit" on more of the same and is seeking a redistribution of wealth comparable to the Great Compression.
There's a word for people like you who fail to see the big picture, it's myopic.
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Actually, Bernie is wildly overestimating taxes needed. For example in the case of single payer, we
Baobab
Apr 2016
#114
I think he's a good man, with the right goals, and I don't think that the fantasy economic
DanTex
Apr 2016
#7
170 Economists......and let's see there is that big wheel guy who thinks Bernie is on the
bkkyosemite
Apr 2016
#59
Sure. Most people use their field of practice in what they call themselves.. nt
revbones
Apr 2016
#118
World's Most Famous Economist Says Bernie Sanders Could "Change the Face of the Country"
kristopher
Apr 2016
#81
Maybe he can bring a huge ideological shift, although what is much more likely is that
DanTex
Apr 2016
#85
Bernie's plan raises taxes on the middle class as well. And like I said, that's even
DanTex
Apr 2016
#8
More than offset by lower healthcare "taxes," so the net effect is lower taxes.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Apr 2016
#67
People who really believe a candidate can deliver on promises lives in a bubble. I love reading
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Apr 2016
#108
To have Universal Health Care/Medicare For All?? Where do I sign up for higher taxes?
KeepItReal
Apr 2016
#69
Well, no, because the costs for Single Payer are much higher than Bernie lets on.
DanTex
Apr 2016
#70
Another substance-free response. Fortunately the Democratic electorate is rejecting his
DanTex
Apr 2016
#12
"Substance free" referred to your response. I said nothing about "free stuff" in the OP.
DanTex
Apr 2016
#50
yep, we shouldn't even realize that BETTER HEALTH CARE COSTS LESS IN OTHER OECD COUNTRIES....
Human101948
Apr 2016
#10
Math is not a right-wing smear. Fantasy economic projections are part of the right-wing
DanTex
Apr 2016
#14
How does every other OECD country deliver better health care at lower prices?
Human101948
Apr 2016
#17
Even the ones without Single Payer do, so simply switching to SP isn't going to fix that.
DanTex
Apr 2016
#22
However, by dragging your feet and protesting loudly you guarantee nothing will change...
Human101948
Apr 2016
#31
Obamacare was already a huge change. Progress is possible, but not if it's based on fantasy.
DanTex
Apr 2016
#47
It is a jury rigged half measure that feeds the insurance and drug companies...
Human101948
Apr 2016
#116
I've been paying healthy income taxes for the last 35 years, paying more taxes to make the country
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#18
As I said in the OP, I'm also willing to pay more taxes to make the country better.
DanTex
Apr 2016
#19
Your headline opposes tax hikes. Your entire theme is that you are not willing to pay more.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#30
once you include the saving from signal payer healthcare the middle and lower classes..
awake
Apr 2016
#20
That's only if you assume that Bernie's fantasy numbers on healthcare savings are realistic.
DanTex
Apr 2016
#27
Actually, "fantasy" and "magic asterisk" are terms that progressives have used for a while to
DanTex
Apr 2016
#83
You are not truthful about Friedman's analysis - it's valid and you know it's valid.
kristopher
Apr 2016
#111
Are there certain classes one needs to take to write like a Fox News "journalist?"
TheBlackAdder
Apr 2016
#25
So is ignoring all forms of reality, pushing false and misleading OPs 24x7.
TheBlackAdder
Apr 2016
#35
It sure looks like one of the requirements of a FOX News "journalist" is a lack of reflection...
TheBlackAdder
Apr 2016
#49
Your posts in this thread contain no math, they contain verbiage about math and words about numbers
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#41
Snide comments out of a man who claims his rhetoric is math and is driven by a desire for low tax
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#53
You're getting silly now. I explicitly stated that I'd be happy paying more taxes.
DanTex
Apr 2016
#60
Failed to answer the question put to you, just as you failed to address what I said to you about my
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#46
So Vermont's proposal is the only form of univerasl health care you have ever heard of?
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2016
#58
The only realistic plan I've seen in the US. In foreign countries, costs are much lower for a lot
DanTex
Apr 2016
#61
Frank Luntz would be bursting with pride to see you repeating that phrase like a Republican parrot
Human101948
Apr 2016
#43
He'd be proud of Bernie's economic projections, that's for sure. Him and Paul Ryan.
DanTex
Apr 2016
#48
Pelosi will not let down ballot congressional candidates run on the Sanders platform
Gothmog
Apr 2016
#51
Pew research begs to differ with the OP - care about taxes? 42%=not too much/not at all
floppyboo
Apr 2016
#55
Most people are fed up with the plutocracy that allows the mega-rich to go taxless.
Zen Democrat
Apr 2016
#72
Since I look at my insurance premiums as a "tax" imposed by insurance companies
Kelvin Mace
Apr 2016
#76
Newsflash: Most people don't like posts with whopper lies that have been debunked many times
HERVEPA
Apr 2016
#86
Clinton's supporters and donors are the people who don't pay taxes because they put $ in caymans
Flyingbird5066
Apr 2016
#101
I agree with abortion rights and gay rights myself and have mixed feelings about affirmative action
Flyingbird5066
Apr 2016
#110