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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
174. The scary part is, she might not.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:13 AM
Mar 2016

Like him or not, Bernie has a huge following (which I am a part of). And if he where to run third party, the left vote would be split, creating a path to the WH for the repukes

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2016 #1
welcome! pinebox Mar 2016 #2
What is surprising about this 3rd party trying to lure Dems to vote for them pnwmom Mar 2016 #166
It doesn't help Trump or Cruz pinebox Mar 2016 #236
What is insane is denying simple arithmetic, and denying the fact pnwmom Mar 2016 #246
What is insane is denying there's people who Hillary doesn't represent pinebox Mar 2016 #248
There are even more people whom Bernie doesn't represent, especially among pnwmom Mar 2016 #250
I would disagree pinebox Mar 2016 #253
Bernie doesn't do nearly as well as Hillary with women. pnwmom Mar 2016 #254
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #235
One of the two will get my vote in November. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #3
A Sanders/Stein ticket pinebox Mar 2016 #5
Why didn't I think of that? corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #131
If Stein is willing to concede that, she'd be an instant stateswoman. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #157
I suppose losing all 50 States would be an interesting development... brooklynite Mar 2016 #172
he would not EVER do that but I'd support him if he did Vote2016 Mar 2016 #219
Well, change, anyway NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #266
agreed LA Green Mar 2016 #179
yup, me too.... mike_c Mar 2016 #180
So the GOP it seems can count on you cancelling out a Democratic ticket vote... Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #227
No. It can count on me not voting Republican. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #233
Jill will have my vote if Bernie falls short NWCorona Mar 2016 #4
she's great but I hope we don't have to consider that option. Vote2016 Mar 2016 #218
Agreed! NWCorona Mar 2016 #223
Seconded. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #290
Any path to the White House that balances against the Democratic Party's thumb on the scale GoneFishin Mar 2016 #6
It's certainly refreshing pinebox Mar 2016 #20
You survived blackspade Mar 2016 #173
Thanks for the heads up. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #220
If Hillary is our nominee I have a choice to make. SamKnause Mar 2016 #7
This appears to be the way to go if you want America to work for *all* Americans... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #57
Only if you're willing to watch President Trump or President Cruz being elected pnwmom Mar 2016 #167
Imagine if you will LA Green Mar 2016 #181
Are you aware of the absolute requirement for 270 Electoral votes? pnwmom Mar 2016 #186
That's some serious LA Green Mar 2016 #232
No, it's really just basic math. The more votes that get drained from the Dems pnwmom Mar 2016 #247
Well then liberalnarb Mar 2016 #163
i live in a blue state dragonfly301 Mar 2016 #231
two problems sabbat hunter Mar 2016 #302
“The Democratic Party is democratic in name only – superdelegates anyone?” Stein tweeted earlier in workinclasszero Mar 2016 #8
But what do YOU think about the superdelegates? reformist2 Mar 2016 #31
They will support who the majority of democratic voters picks as the candidate workinclasszero Mar 2016 #37
Superdelegates need to end CobaltBlue Mar 2016 #115
They are there to avoid what's happening with the repugs brush Mar 2016 #152
Hello, brush! CobaltBlue Mar 2016 #170
Research it. It was done so what's happening now with the repugs and Trump . . . brush Mar 2016 #185
Silly brush CobaltBlue Mar 2016 #287
Take it up with the Party. I didn't institute it. It is what it is until changed. brush Mar 2016 #288
Hmm CobaltBlue Mar 2016 #289
Hillary OWENS the superdelegates? Armstead Mar 2016 #35
Maybe the ones we don't need to worry about. nt artislife Mar 2016 #76
What exactly does she mean by collaboration? drm604 Mar 2016 #9
I think what she means pinebox Mar 2016 #21
I doubt that it would be a disaster in the GE. drm604 Mar 2016 #32
I don't think she means a third party ticket pinebox Mar 2016 #36
You mean if Bernie wins the nomination? drm604 Mar 2016 #46
I don't know pinebox Mar 2016 #47
That is exactly what I thought when I read this Samantha Mar 2016 #64
I think she is thinking of asking him to be VP if he doesn't make the nomination. nt artislife Mar 2016 #79
You've got to be kidding! If Sanders ran third party, Clinton would lose. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #80
She is running to support Trump, any vote cast for her is a vote for Trump. tritsofme Mar 2016 #10
Horseshit. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #19
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night. Pretty disgusting that you would consider tritsofme Mar 2016 #22
Pretty disgusting pinebox Mar 2016 #25
Anyone who casts an effective ballot for Trump surely has no integrity. tritsofme Mar 2016 #50
Sure because supporting a candidate pinebox Mar 2016 #94
Sounds like you could use a better class of friends Fairgo Mar 2016 #133
Do tell how Trump gains a vote if I vote for Jill Stein. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #27
If you voted against Obama, it sounds like you have larger problems. tritsofme Mar 2016 #38
0 - 0 = 0 Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #60
You're right, and you're helping me see Qutzupalotl Mar 2016 #275
.... Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #278
Bogie man. artislife Mar 2016 #84
So funny! Jill's policies are the same policies the majority of Americans endorse, like Bernie's Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #137
She also has a great point about our military bases around the world guarding oil or its transport RiverLover Mar 2016 #208
Absolutely As renewable energy takes center stage the war industry must be able to fit in a bathtub Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #242
The sea lanes of communication bring that computer you are typing on, MADem Mar 2016 #249
Says it all doesn't it CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #255
But Obama lost a vote, which is effectively yhe same thing. Adrahil Mar 2016 #122
Only if you assume that I would have voted for Obama. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #126
It's still true. Adrahil Mar 2016 #132
I am supporting a Democratic candidate. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #134
if you didn't vote for the dem in 2012 and won't in 2016 . . . brush Mar 2016 #154
Lol. McCain?? Hahahaha liberalnarb Mar 2016 #164
You voted against Obama. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #165
Because you voted for Jill, McCain closed the gap with Obama by one vote. pnwmom Mar 2016 #187
Why are you on DU if you allegiance is "Green"? pkdu Mar 2016 #202
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #210
I'm whatever I say I am. And, I owe no allegience to any party. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #216
If someone votes for Jill Stein instead of Hillary Clinton, I won't cast aspersions. reformist2 Mar 2016 #43
So you have no problem if an effective ballot is cast for Trump through Stein... tritsofme Mar 2016 #52
There's no such thing as "effective" votes. A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Jill Stein, and no reformist2 Mar 2016 #68
Had Nader not been on the ballot, the split of his 100k voters between Gore/Bush/Not voting tritsofme Mar 2016 #70
Wrong again Kittycat Mar 2016 #182
Elections have consequences. That's also how a democracy works. kcr Mar 2016 #191
That's right, elections have consequences. Kittycat Mar 2016 #192
I think worrying too much about what party leaders think is the problem kcr Mar 2016 #193
How, exactly, am I wrong? tritsofme Mar 2016 #229
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #69
0 votes for your own preferred candidate does not equal a vote for Trump revbones Mar 2016 #130
To the Party, VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #291
pretty disgusting for you to get in peple's faces and browbeat them. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #209
Not sure there is much else to say. tritsofme Mar 2016 #225
That is just an idiotic assertion and I hope you'll think about it before repeating it. revbones Mar 2016 #292
It is a fact, sorry it bothers you. Voting third party could enable a Trump victory tritsofme Mar 2016 #294
By that inane logic revbones Mar 2016 #296
Ralph Nadar Says.... MannyG Mar 2016 #40
Exactly. artislife Mar 2016 #81
You are both wrong. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #169
/facepalm pinebox Mar 2016 #23
A vote for the Greens is a vote for Trump. It's how a two party system works. tritsofme Mar 2016 #30
No you don't make sense pinebox Mar 2016 #39
No, you apparently don't understand how our system works. tritsofme Mar 2016 #49
Conclusion: If the Democratic party wants the votes of the Left it should run Leftist candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #61
And if you don't approve of the candidate chosen through the Democratic nominating process tritsofme Mar 2016 #72
No. I will vote for a Leftist candidate rather than a Repubican. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #77
No, Stein has no chance of victory. The most significance she can achieve is to be a spoiler. tritsofme Mar 2016 #86
Opinions differ. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #89
Cute rhetoric, but this is not an opinions differ sort of thing. tritsofme Mar 2016 #97
Then the other candidates should appeal to them for their votes. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #102
I don't disagree. But voters should realize the strategic consequences of their votes. tritsofme Mar 2016 #108
I will be voting strategically. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #112
As long as you don't consider the possibility of enabling Trump a consequence tritsofme Mar 2016 #118
There are no facts, only interpretations. Friedrich Nietzsche Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #120
They do serve a purpose Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #119
No you don't understand how the system works pinebox Mar 2016 #96
I have no idea, don't particularly care. Local political success and local political systems tritsofme Mar 2016 #100
I disagree with your logic. Beowulf Mar 2016 #136
Exactly eggman67 Mar 2016 #303
You are forgetting LA Green Mar 2016 #183
no, it would be a vote FOR the Green party candidate dana_b Mar 2016 #58
Correct. Voting Green splits the left vote, helping the right. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #171
It's interesting in seeing who thinks that heavy handed intimidation works. You might fall for it rhett o rick Mar 2016 #67
OMG ... FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!! Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #71
Truth truth truth. Supporting a third party is a vote to enable Trump. tritsofme Mar 2016 #73
Utter bullshit. The truth is, you don't know what you are talking about. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #85
Then please explain otherwise. Thanks. tritsofme Mar 2016 #91
I take back my original offer Fairgo Mar 2016 #135
Many of us don't believe in your "undeniable truth" about voting. reformist2 Mar 2016 #106
In our presidential system, a left third party can at best only hope to serve as a spoiler. tritsofme Mar 2016 #113
instant ignore. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #87
Likewise XD Good route to go with that poster pinebox Mar 2016 #98
That's the most backwards bullshit I've ever read. desmiller Mar 2016 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #146
How is this even allowed here? grossproffit Mar 2016 #11
Damn good question workinclasszero Mar 2016 #12
Because it's not advocating for a Third Party candidate is my guess. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #13
That would be correct XD Hillary supporters hate unity apparently pinebox Mar 2016 #17
Why would it not be? pinebox Mar 2016 #14
She's never gotten a response. There's probably a good reason for that. kcr Mar 2016 #15
I don't know I see it as this pinebox Mar 2016 #18
Helping to get Trump elected isn't unity. kcr Mar 2016 #24
Helping to get the Dempublican elected pinebox Mar 2016 #26
Which was why Bernie ran as a Dem kcr Mar 2016 #29
I don't see it as a third party run pinebox Mar 2016 #41
Maybe. But that's not how the author of the article sees it. kcr Mar 2016 #44
Someone mentioned up above pinebox Mar 2016 #99
Yes, that's what I think she's hinting at. kcr Mar 2016 #149
Here's what Bernie will tell you after he endorses Hillary BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #140
Here's what Bernie actually says pinebox Mar 2016 #237
Meantime, back in the USA, do you want Bernie to have a major voice at the DNC BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #262
Sore loser land you say? pinebox Mar 2016 #264
I think both candidates are significantly inferior to the current President in their way BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #268
I'll endorse who I feel best represents me pinebox Mar 2016 #274
Was she whining about delegates and super delegates when Obama won them? leftofcool Mar 2016 #16
No, she had agreed to the rules and didn't complain when comradebillyboy Mar 2016 #45
8 years and Obama wasn't the obvious pre election choice of the DNC.nt artislife Mar 2016 #88
Fuck Ralph Nader...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #28
Ralph Nader = 8 years of Bush hell workinclasszero Mar 2016 #34
Yea, the 13% of Dems who voted for Bush gave us Bush. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #53
Sure are a lot of Nader defenders around here workinclasszero Mar 2016 #62
I doubt 13% of Florida dems voted for Bush. brush Mar 2016 #155
Here's national. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #161
That chart is not convincing. Try this link that explains how Nader screwed the country . . . brush Mar 2016 #168
You think HuffPo is more credible than Cornell University? HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #175
Most of them hadn't voted for Dems since Reagan. But the 95,000 Nader pnwmom Mar 2016 #188
Fuck facts and how Gore couldn't even his home state pinebox Mar 2016 #42
Yes. His homestate of Tennessee kcr Mar 2016 #51
Facts matter pinebox Mar 2016 #54
Yes. Facts matter. Like the fact his home state is a red state. kcr Mar 2016 #56
Nader didn't garner much votes but honestly Gore pinebox Mar 2016 #101
You missed a step . . . brush Mar 2016 #158
Fuck Ron Paul KittyWampus Mar 2016 #65
Too late for collaboration in the primary. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #33
Bernie's a democrat for the $$. Jill has no $$. sorry, Jill nt nt msongs Mar 2016 #48
Bernie is a Democrat for the $? pinebox Mar 2016 #55
Or his own words. n/t JTFrog Mar 2016 #78
I wish the Green Party would simply endorse Bernie this time around. nt redwitch Mar 2016 #59
If Bernie is the nominee, I think there is a great chance of that happening.[n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #127
Nothing like fracturing the Left to help the Fascists out, Jill. The Left is a coalition KittyWampus Mar 2016 #63
What are third waver protecting? nt artislife Mar 2016 #90
Why am I not surprised! Walk away Mar 2016 #66
Could be used as leverage against superdelegates not respecting the popular vote dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #74
Interesting indeed justaddh2o Mar 2016 #123
yeah well i have zero faith in the supers doing the right thing dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #147
Take your logic to the next step. You say the Greens, with Bernie, could keep Hillary pnwmom Mar 2016 #198
No need to dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #199
So you think Bernie would threaten a third party run in order to get super delegate votes? pnwmom Mar 2016 #201
I think the superdelegates need to be considering that possibility dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #205
Except Hillary is winning the popular vote and pledged delegates, nevermind SDs. Metric System Mar 2016 #257
This is democratic underground. I suggest you find an - OhZone Mar 2016 #75
I'm surprised that Skinner only singled out "Trump Humping" JTFrog Mar 2016 #82
Oh I'm sorry I thought Bernie was running as a Dem? pinebox Mar 2016 #104
"lolz" NuclearDem Mar 2016 #116
This is a Democratic party leaning board only. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #145
Russia Today crap HERVEPA Mar 2016 #83
As opposed to pinebox Mar 2016 #238
If the Democratic Party is foolish enough to turn its back on the American people, liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #92
Which American people are those? Beacool Mar 2016 #283
In 2012 I voted for Jill Stein. I'm a Democrat (I was on the same ballot, you know) Ron Green Mar 2016 #93
What the fuck is this shit? NuclearDem Mar 2016 #95
You mad? pinebox Mar 2016 #107
I do have a problem with people shilling the Green Party on Democratic Underground. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #114
She's trying to sow division, not unity. She's trying to get Bernie to join her pnwmom Mar 2016 #203
When the TOS Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #196
Dont look now, but that was your entry for Bartlett's Quotations. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #211
Amazing how one simple IGNORE... MattSh Mar 2016 #103
I know, right? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #105
Right? pinebox Mar 2016 #111
Isn't that interesting! Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #109
She's right about the "fake go-left thing"... polichick Mar 2016 #110
My second choice in the GE. 99Forever Mar 2016 #117
Jill Stein is as qualified for the presidency as Donald Trump is, i.e. not at all Tarc Mar 2016 #121
Because you get to decide who's qualified? pinebox Mar 2016 #239
"...a candidate who is directly responsible..." ? Tarc Mar 2016 #281
Ugh that was a typo pinebox Mar 2016 #285
Pretty much every Sanders supporter I know in RL, will vote for Jill Stein riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #124
To change things for the better we have to, you know, CHANGE things. Maedhros Mar 2016 #129
Exactly. RiverLover Mar 2016 #138
Stein doesn't offer anything they should be interested in -- such as the chance of actually getting onenote Mar 2016 #178
No one considering voting for Stein thinks she will win. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #213
The point I was making is that what Stein offers is worthless onenote Mar 2016 #214
What she offers is a protest vote. After 2000, lots of people don't want to write a candidate in DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #215
To some people it's a lot more pinebox Mar 2016 #241
And Stein won't represent them either, because she won't get elected to anything onenote Mar 2016 #252
There are always people who find it thrilling to go the Nader route. pnwmom Mar 2016 #204
Gore won fyi. Nader didn't lose that election for the Dems nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #207
Those 95,000 votes he got would have been more than enough to pnwmom Mar 2016 #251
Same here pinebox Mar 2016 #240
This Greenie Is Torn corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #128
Ok. n/t zappaman Mar 2016 #139
Weren't you folks satisfied with the 2000 election? Here we go again!! Stunning! Talk like that Jitter65 Mar 2016 #141
How about you don't speak for Sanders supporters Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #142
I hope all democrats in the next primary states workinclasszero Mar 2016 #256
This thread should be locked. That woman has no place being praised on this site. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #143
That woman? Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #148
No Rosa it is me Justin. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #150
LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #184
It's actually a pretty illuminating thread. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #156
Good point. They go over the line on purpose and then act like they are persecuted when hrmjustin Mar 2016 #159
+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #197
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2016 #206
I feel another freak-out brewing. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #212
Judge not lest you be judged. Your timouts were just as amusing. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #221
She should move to Vermont and run for Senate Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #144
She should move to Colorado pinebox Mar 2016 #243
Fuck Nader. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #151
Go for it. pinebox Mar 2016 #244
Jill Stein: Kingmaker frazzled Mar 2016 #153
Oh god no... liberalnarb Mar 2016 #160
oh good. Hillary will kick both their asses. wyldwolf Mar 2016 #162
The scary part is, she might not. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #174
Even that result would have a tiny silver lining wyldwolf Mar 2016 #200
A question for those saying a vote for Stein rather than Clinton doesn't help Trump onenote Mar 2016 #176
K & R Duppers Mar 2016 #177
Stein is weaseling, she could easily open her own dialogue. joshcryer Mar 2016 #189
She opened up her own dialogue to Bernie pinebox Mar 2016 #245
How would this benefit Bernie? Sounds like it's all about benefitting Stein and the Green Party kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2016 #190
Sanders/Stein sure. vintx Mar 2016 #194
This is good. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #195
Sanders will never go for this, but I'd support him if he did. Vote2016 Mar 2016 #217
This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #222
Jill Rocks colsohlibgal Mar 2016 #224
Bernie Is The Only Antidote To Rampant DNC DWS DLC HRC Third-Way Corporatist Corruption cantbeserious Mar 2016 #226
Collaboration? This is a major fault with the left, IMO. nt merrily Mar 2016 #228
If this thread isn't trying to tell people NOT to vote for the Democratic nominee if it is still_one Mar 2016 #230
Its been alerted on workinclasszero Mar 2016 #259
and that is no surprise to me still_one Mar 2016 #261
Kick and R BeanMusical Mar 2016 #234
This crap should not be on DU MaggieD Mar 2016 #258
I'd go one step further. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #263
I'm more qualified to be President than Jill Stein. Metric System Mar 2016 #260
You're probably more qualified than Hillary pinebox Mar 2016 #265
Yale Law grad, Senator, Secretary of State. Nope, Hillary's definitely more qualified. Metric System Mar 2016 #271
Iraq, Saudi weapon deals, Honduras, emails. You are more qualified. pinebox Mar 2016 #272
Jill Stein is great, but Sanders has already rejected her overtures. Sanders' path lies within the Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #267
Actually he hasn't said a thing yet pinebox Mar 2016 #277
Let's stop pretending that Hillary is winning because the majority of super delegates support her. Beacool Mar 2016 #269
Let's stop calling Hillary a prgressive pinebox Mar 2016 #276
What does your opinion of Hillary have to do with the OP? Beacool Mar 2016 #280
Sure that's why you replied XD pinebox Mar 2016 #286
So Hillary canvasses for Goldwater more than FIFTY years ago. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #270
I don't care if Hillary was a Goldwater girl pinebox Mar 2016 #273
Thank-you for posting an article from the Russian Government controlled newspaper still_one Mar 2016 #279
The sheer amount of desperation is palpable here. Any and everything, no matter how synergie Mar 2016 #282
It certainly seems that way still_one Mar 2016 #284
And yet sometimes they cover stuff ignored by US corporate media Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #293
If you enjoy Putin's propaganda outlet, go for it still_one Mar 2016 #295
I noticed Thom Hartmann and Ed Schultz are on that channel. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #298
Fuck the Greens....bought and paid for GOP whores..... msanthrope Mar 2016 #297
It goes both ways pinebox Mar 2016 #299
Fuck Rick Santorum... msanthrope Mar 2016 #300
Nobody will argue with you that Santorum is an idiot pinebox Mar 2016 #301
Then Sanders will be a POS to the Democratic party that Nader has become. I do not see it. seabeyond Mar 2016 #304
Nader was 16 years ago and didn't cost you shit pinebox Mar 2016 #305
Bullshit. Naders is an ego driven wanna be and will sell out where ever he can get a vote. seabeyond Mar 2016 #306
Oh please pinebox Mar 2016 #307
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