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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why I NEVER want to hear another word about BERNIE BROS on DU again [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)229. No, no one can tell you what to say.
The beauty of that is, the things people say telegraph to the whole world their emotional maturity and intellectual level.
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Why I NEVER want to hear another word about BERNIE BROS on DU again [View all]
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
OP
Fun thread, right? I am shocked what I started. And I thought this was a positive thread, at first.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#218
***Note to Bernie supporters: I urge you not to engage this one,some intentionally miss the point***
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#5
***Note to Hillary supporters: I urge you to push back on the idea that Berniebros do not exist.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#9
Linkhere . Quoting someone's own words back at them is not an "attack by BernieBros".
Electric Monk
Mar 2016
#30
It's not the change of opinion, it is his wallowing in volitile and extreme rhetoric no matter what
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#187
Everyone is free to change their minds. But sometimes it beggars belief when the
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#298
Thank you Nance. We will not forget or allow some to assert it doesn't exist and never did.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#28
You continue to miss the point. You earned every single 'nasty comment' for your hypocritical flip
Electric Monk
Mar 2016
#195
Perfect example of Berniebro behavior which is BULLYING. Blame the victim.
KittyWampus
Mar 2016
#309
Noting what people have themselves said on any given topic is bullying? Then you must hate Obama.
Electric Monk
Mar 2016
#325
Sure. If I really want to waste my time, I'll debate theology with religious people
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#113
Elizabeth Warren - an absolute icon of the True Progressives (TM) - was, as you've pointed out,
workinclasszero
Mar 2016
#197
well I think folks that toss your old words when you have changed are gaslighting
riversedge
Mar 2016
#105
The same way that people quoting Hillary's own words back are being 'abusive' right?
Kentonio
Mar 2016
#148
Nope, we have proof, that's the difference. How many links would you want?
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#316
I look forward to seeing them. I want to post them in that 1000+ comment OP too. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#118
Nope, we have kicked several old threads proving our point, then you guys get mad.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#313
There are no Hillary assholes swarming the internet to trash anyone who breathes a word
KittyWampus
Mar 2016
#311
And some perpetuate and protect abuse by pretending it doesn't happen.
shadowandblossom
Mar 2016
#127
How about I call you a Clintonbro? You attack Sanders supporters at every turn.
DemocraticWing
Mar 2016
#31
Sure, you could try. And I would ask for examples where I and other folks ganged up on people
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#37
Yeah, that sure seems to be the anecdotal assertion. And when people ask for actual examples
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#68
Yeah, you know, the recipient of the behavior is probably a much better judge of whether its
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#79
So do I. And I am sure Howard Dean and Elizabeth Warren and all the countless others have had
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#84
Oh it IS drama. Insults and bullying are definitely part of the definition of drama.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#98
It's definitely bullying. It's ad-hominem, unrelated to the issues and nasty bullying. But you knew
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#104
I have no idea who that is. She obviously didn't get a lot of support as Obama had a landslide
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#121
Nope. Neither she nor any other Clinton supporter tried to bully me in 2008.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#129
This seems as though it is a personal matter, for you, and I get that.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#135
If it were only me, I would say, OK, its something I did wrong. I'm honest with myself.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#137
It was far too little, far too late. But it is instructive that Bernie finally felt the need
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#321
Well we could always start calling Hillary supporters what they are called on twitter, fb and other
jillan
Mar 2016
#6
I don't call Bernie supporters Bernie Bros. I call Bernie Bros, Bernie Bros.
shadowandblossom
Mar 2016
#134
What is sad is there are no longer any consequences for assholes posting these screeds.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#32
No you do not. It was vile, and that post will not soon be forgotten by me at least.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#47
Most the time I see the claim but can't make heads or tails on what the claim was about.
Kalidurga
Mar 2016
#138
Opening the jail doors certainly has made this place very classy and less contentious!
bbgrunt
Mar 2016
#101
Since when are we the party of mass incarceration, figuratively or literally?
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2016
#185
It is not Time who linked the BerniBRos with the disabled guy- but YOU did in
riversedge
Mar 2016
#65
I am not defending these BernieBro hashtags #BernTheWitch #MississippiBerning
riversedge
Mar 2016
#83
No but his comments are a forceful statement on Bernie Bros when put in that context
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#94
Well said. And we won't allow Sanders supporters to pretend that behavior never existed.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#14
Nope. Hillary supporters did not engage in that combination of nasty, swarming and bullying
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#24
And see, there you go proving my point. Instead of advocating for your candidate and trying
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#49
Nope, and it would be impossible for me to do. It requires hundreds of people at a minimum. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#56
Steve, Hillary supporters certainly have engaged in that and here are the screen caps
pinebox
Mar 2016
#120
A small subset. That's a good start. Now can wecall out the jackass subset in Hillary's camp too?
DemocraticWing
Mar 2016
#35
Of course. I've never denied that assholes and generally awful people support Hillary as well.
NuclearDem
Mar 2016
#38
They have been the most prolific because they vastly outnumber Hillary supporters.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#40
Nope, its not a misunderstanding. There are too many examples and not enough pushback.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#42
Agreed. And it is something many times worse when it is hundreds of comments bullying someone with
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#41
All of which is fine the first 3-7 days it happened back in the May-June timeframe. After that...
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#44
It's been a back and forth for months. Hard to put a lid on all-out war waged by people I don't know
DemocraticWing
Mar 2016
#50
It really wasn't back and forth early on. When it became clear for me was August black lives matter
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#55
OK, and how many other Clinton supporters joined in the attack? Do you have a link.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#63
Because Hillary people have more trouble getting their cable modem to work if that nice boy from
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#75
See riveredge's #65 above. I have no idea why the OP linked this person to that term...
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#76
whats ugly is that someone made up this stupid fucking term to insult Sanders supporters.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#78
i have not seen one fucking example of supposed "bernie bro" behavior which is any worse than the
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#85
No, the examples are always shit like "howard dean says they're real! Sanders says theyre real!"
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#95
Nope, they're not always like that at all. There is a nearly 1000 post OP here you keep
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#99
You are talking about someone pulling your words from 2008, and I just addressed that.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#106
Got me, most of the Bernie supporters I know are older women. With older men, second and
Live and Learn
Mar 2016
#153
If you watch the clip, The Young Turks absolutely eviscerate the meme.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#164
Whoever did that, it was clearly someone wrapped way too fucking much up in DU drama.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#168
Im not saying there arent supporters of sanders who are assholes, or tone deaf
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#171
"BernieBros" are a product of the syphilitic mind of smear merchant David Brock. /
FlatBaroque
Mar 2016
#210
Yes. One thing I would add, though, is the point of that post was to suggest that people actually
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#211
The smear is that many or most DU Bernie supporters (or other online group) are Bernie Bros, or...
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#97
Its like arguing over how many angels can do the macarena on the head of a pin
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#111
It's a shameful part of this primary, but not shameful for Bernie supporters.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#110
And scroll down to the comments. There was no bullying of her in the comments. Fail.
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#131
So much this: "You all thought you could bully your revolution into existence"
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#125
And we have spent the last couple of years talking about bullying in schools and elsewhere and that
upaloopa
Mar 2016
#133
Yes, I think that hurt him very badly. Are you suggesting Sanders strength is the Berniebros?
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#198
Which would make it shameful to post in your opinion because for some odd reason you
Live and Learn
Mar 2016
#155
Revision classes? I suggest you take of your revision glasses altogether.
Live and Learn
Mar 2016
#161
You don't get to attack other people when your bigotry is on full display.
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#300
I was an English major long ago. I am more impressed with your vocabulary than with some of
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#305
Thanks for the backhanded compliment. I'll take it anyway, backwards or forewards.
Surya Gayatri
Mar 2016
#308
They are a very real very vocal minority. If you want to not hear about them, they need to go away.
PeaceNikki
Mar 2016
#169
"A monolith of privileged Americans who are caught in the fad of celebrity." Well put.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#177
"BernieBros" does not characterize all of his base, but it does characterize some
Tarc
Mar 2016
#180
See, you're going to keep hearing about Bernie-Bro behavior, as long as you keep on
synergie
Mar 2016
#199
Yes, there Is a ‘BernieBro’ Problem. Your denial is fomenting mistrust of harassment victims in a si
PeaceNikki
Mar 2016
#201
I've decided to refer to anyone who uses that nauseating pejorative as "Hillstapo."
Lizzie Poppet
Mar 2016
#266
It's a huge fucking issue. I think there were some serious problems with white people generally
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#245
Nicely done. I can only do that with math and science books. LOL. And politics.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#254
It will be really nice when you provide the documentation you've compiled.
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#301
a particular group of privileged white males came up with the term BernieBros. They created the
seabeyond
Mar 2016
#230
The agressive, insulting, condescending, rude men I've seen are ALL Hill's Bros...
senz
Mar 2016
#284
I alert every time I see that slur. It's calling someone racist and misogynist and should be hidden.
cui bono
Mar 2016
#285
Sometimes I get confused by "Bernie Bro". What confuses me is videos like these:
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#286
Once again, this is a problem within Sanders' support base, identified by the man himself
Tarc
Mar 2016
#291
This is how we should respond to the meme now, thanks to Warren DeMontague. >>>
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#293
The point is whooshing over your head; Sanders identified a misogynist element of his base
Tarc
Mar 2016
#296
They always run into that problem when trying to assert "Berniebros" don't exist
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#322
If hundreds of Clinton supporters gang up on someone with rude statements I will
stevenleser
Mar 2016
#323
What about the bernie bros who attacked Joan Walsh's and Cecile Richard's daughters?
Gothmog
Mar 2016
#330
What is the cute name for the Clinton surrogates who trashed Millennial women?
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#332