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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Obama: Time to Unite Behind Hillary. [View all]gcomeau
(5,764 posts)61. On the planet where we know it used to be triple 30%.
And we did just freaking fine.
As for the rest, keep pointing at plans that always seem to coincidentally go nowhere all you want.
Who cares what I've done? You don't expect everyone to just agree with you, do you?
And there it is. "Yes I'm opposing progress but that doesn't matter! I just don't agree with you and that's ok!"
Aligning yourself against progressive policies and doing everything you can to defeat them goes beyond minor disagreements within the fold. I've tolerated all manner of differences over policy and strategy just fine over the years when those disagreements were over means to the same outcome.
Pulling in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION is a whole other matter.
You want to think there's a better way towards universal Single Payer health insurance coverage. I want to hear it. You want to side with the candidate who trashes the very principle of Single Payer coverage in front of the entire nation to undermine the possibility of it EVER being achieved? You're siding with the opposition.
You want to talk about different paths forward on strengthening the nations social safety net? ALL EARS. You want to side with the candidate who adopts the GOP frame that those programs are just giving people "free stuff" in tones of open mockery in front of the entire country and validating the GOP propaganda line they have used for decades to undermine almost all liberal programs? You're siding with the opposition.
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I don't think that will work this time. They younger people and Independents have
Autumn
Mar 2016
#11
I couldn't agree more. At the very least he needs to tone down the attacks on Hillary, who is now
DanTex
Mar 2016
#10
Really, you want to go back to 90? So much for Bernie Sanders, then, he's not even close.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#62
A lot of it seems to be personal animosity against Hillary. People just don't want to see her
DanTex
Mar 2016
#43
I can support Hillary but I think Sanders should stay in till the end in case the email thing
hollowdweller
Mar 2016
#15
I really hope Bernie stays in until the convention, regardless of the delegate count
AJH032
Mar 2016
#19
Translation: Clinton will support the TPP (a legacy issue for Obama) and Sanders will oppose it
Samantha
Mar 2016
#59
If he wants to say that he needs to step up and not play gossip and proxy gambits.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#65