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PufPuf23

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22. C) has destroyed the Democratic Party
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:48 PM
Mar 2016

The current Democratic Party is the historic Democratic Party in name only.

A minority of Democrats in name only conspired to take over from within the Democratic Party of my youth.

In 1968 the Democratic Party splintered into four groups:

1. Hubert H. Humphrey, Johnson's Vice-President, gained the support of labor unions and big-city party bosses (such as Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley), who had been the Democratic Party's primary power base since the days of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. It was also believed that President Johnson himself was covertly supporting Humphrey, despite public claims of neutrality.


2. McCarthy rallied students and intellectuals who had been the early activists against the war in Vietnam;

3. Kennedy gained the support of Catholics, African-Americans, and other racial and ethnic minorities;

4. Conservative white Southern Democrats, or "Dixiecrats," their influence declining swiftly in the national party, tended to support either Vice-President Humphrey or George C. Wallace and the Alabama governor's third-party campaign in the general election.

The 1968 POTUS cycle included assassinations (RFK and MLK) and riots. The disgraced Nixon won the 1968 POTUS election and extended the Vietnam War. Racist, corrupt, and "owned" Nixon slowed Democratic progress in civil rights, peace, and economic justice until forced to resign in 1974.

The 1972 POTUS cycle included McGovern, Lindsay, George Wallace, Humphrey, and a range of other potential nominees. George Wallace started fast winning Florida and being generally competitive until a failed assassination attempt that gravely wounded Wallace.
McGovern, a Vietnam War peace candidate, lost in an extreme landslide.

Jimmy Carter replaced Ford as POTUS in the 1976 election. We forget and Carter has become a beloved Democratic figure but was considered a conservative Dixiecrat at the time of his election. He is considered a weak and ineffective POTUS. The GOP broke the Borland Amendment and provided arms to the Contras in Nicaragua financed by sale of arms to Iran during the Iran Hostage crisis and the hostages were released when Regan sworn in to office.

The next three POTUS election cycles were Reagan/Bush, Reagan Bush, and Reagan.

A new wind rose within the Democratic Party as traditional Democratic values continued to founder and neoliberalism became the guiding economic philosophy of both the Democrats and GOP.

Neo-liberals within the Democratic Party organized the DLC and championed Bill Clinton who won over the tired and corrupted GOP in the 1992 POTUS election. None of the four splinters of the 1968 Democratic Party brought the Democrats back into power. The New Democrats adopted many of the economic and empire stances of the GOP and married them to the social liberalism and diversity of the remaining FDR/JFK/LBJ Democrats. The New Democrats, Third Way is another label, are "C)" that willfully infected and have gained control at the upper levels and in public discourse of the Democratic Party. The New Democrats are kin to Rockefeller GOP, Reagan followers spread into what were traditionally under represented minority groups, former Dixiecrats, and higher income and professional class Democrats.

Now Liberals and FDR/JFK/LBJ Democrats are mocked and minimalized within what was "our" own Party which has become a Party of wealth and empire; and, thanks be to electronics, ready bread and circuses.

Third Way, New Democrats UglyGreed Mar 2016 #1
This. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #94
D) Flamebait threads like this one. nt Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Mar 2016 #3
Actually, if the poll were legitimate, it would include answer D. The announced "incorrect..." NNadir Mar 2016 #27
C onecaliberal Mar 2016 #4
I reject the premise of your post. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #5
Hey, you correctly identified the next member in the sequence! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #6
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For him anyone to the left of romney is an Extreme Leftist Purist. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #76
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Amazing isn't it? The party has moved so far to the right. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #79
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E) Clinton supporters that vote for Clinton even when shown that she will lose in the General. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #18
Amazing kenfrequed Mar 2016 #23
I would go with Option D. Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #9
What we are seeing is the endgame of those trying to drive the progressives out rhett o rick Mar 2016 #20
It seems to me that so called "progressives" claim, unilaterally, "ethical exceptionalism." NNadir Mar 2016 #42
I have asked the "non-progressives" to discuss those issues that they disagree with. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #43
Agreed. They refuse to discuss her support for cluster bombs riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #47
I have taken the opportunity several times to explain my views on dangerous fossil fuels to... NNadir Mar 2016 #66
Wow. So do you support fracking or not? rhett o rick Mar 2016 #67
I think I made that clear. One would need to be pretty dense to not have understood... NNadir Mar 2016 #71
D) Those who pledge to go home in a huff if their preferred candidate is not the nominee Tarc Mar 2016 #10
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Well, I kinda agree with the Libyan intervention, so... Tarc Mar 2016 #16
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American Exceptionalism uber alles. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Mar 2016 #50
Sensible Democrats recognize that the Rich and Powerful have tripled their wealth in the rhett o rick Mar 2016 #48
Sensible Democrats know that you just lied Tarc Mar 2016 #64
Not a very convincing post. If I lied it would be easy to prove. Give it your best shot. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #68
"C" The Third Way/New Dem Wall Street corporatist coddlers..n/t tokenlib Mar 2016 #11
Nice asked and answered logical fallacy Dem2 Mar 2016 #12
C. Neoliberals corrupting the party from the inside. nt LWolf Mar 2016 #13
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I'm going to go with "people who create tension between those on the same side, and Lucinda Mar 2016 #19
Part of that tension IS argument among people who really believe in what they say. guillaumeb Mar 2016 #21
C) has destroyed the Democratic Party PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #22
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Thanks and I agree with you. PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #25
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Good attitude and story of my life alas. nt PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #31
... SamKnause Mar 2016 #34
I agree with most of your analysis, but Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #69
The corporate Dems and it's not even close. Broward Mar 2016 #28
People who don't vote cause the most harm. That's because they let the repubs take over fed, state upaloopa Mar 2016 #29
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I would say the assholes that think our Den Reps giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #30
No one pushed for Libya like Clinton. Answer: C ( Neoliberals ) Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #32
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I do believe it gives more clarity than some may want to credit him with. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #38
Interesting the responses that refuse to pick from the 3 choices. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #35
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Yea, pretty much....people can rationalize anything. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #39
D: Rank-and-file Democrats who do not hold politicians accountable for 'C', Maedhros Mar 2016 #41
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oh most decidedly C what fascinates is those who know this full well yet delude themselves azurnoir Mar 2016 #44
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I agree with your analysis. . . . they damage the party, people lose trust in the party. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #49
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Many of us are too young to remember the last time we truly had a Democratic President Baobab Mar 2016 #52
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C. DLC/ThirdWay/Dinos peacebird Mar 2016 #53
C (nt) bigwillq Mar 2016 #54
I'll fucking break it the fuck down bravenak Mar 2016 #55
Guillaumeb, I'll take "C" for $500! John Poet Mar 2016 #56
By the way? bravenak Mar 2016 #57
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I never said they were going t save us bravenak Mar 2016 #63
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Nothing causes more harm to the democratic party than low voter turnout... dubyadiprecession Mar 2016 #59
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President Obama appointed Senator Clinton Secretary of State. NNadir Mar 2016 #72
Clinton is dangerously hawkish, that is for sure. Vattel Mar 2016 #62
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There is nothing wrong with legitimate uses of military force. Vattel Mar 2016 #80
The greed, dishonesty, and corruption is what hurts the party mmonk Mar 2016 #70
C. They've abandoned the party principles and are destroying the party. Scuba Mar 2016 #73
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Blind loyalty is dangerous. alarimer Mar 2016 #75
So are ideological litmus tests. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #82
Losing elections is what causes the most harm One of the 99 Mar 2016 #81
Apathy (low voter turnout) loses most elections for Democrats. sorechasm Mar 2016 #84
So does ideological litmus tests by some One of the 99 Mar 2016 #86
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Depends on where in the country you're talking about One of the 99 Mar 2016 #90
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Unfortunately One of the 99 Mar 2016 #92
Party officials who support one candidate above others Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #83
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Like Social Demcrats and Communists in 1932 Germany who blamed each other rather than the Nazi party pampango Mar 2016 #85
A and B. N/t gollygee Mar 2016 #93
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