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IdaBriggs

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163. So, let's untangle some threads, because influence is interesting.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:39 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary gets Rahm demoted in her husband's administration.

Rahm supports Obama in 2008.

Blumenthal supported Hillary in 2008.

Obama's team perceived Blumenthal as an untrustworthy asshole, but Hillary knows he is on "her team".

Obama wins, and Hillary becomes his Secretary of State, thus joining the Obama team/building her resume.

Rahm tells Hillary that Blumenthal is NOT WELCOME.

Bill pays Blumenthal $120k.

Hillary continues to talk to him, but only RECEIVES advice; presumably Bill passes on pillow talk about her concerns thus giving her plausible deniability about him knowing FROM HER about her concerns. (Seriously, it's a big world and he knew she only needed one country - wait! It was from the folks he was getting paid by, so possibly no pillow talk - just her husband paying him.)

Blumenthal maintains his ability to influence policy through this channel while waiting for primary hostility to disapate.

Rahm ends up Mayor of Chicago as reward for Obama loyalty.

He is publicly viewed as a Clintonista based on the Bill connection.

Bernie publicly criticizes him/Rahm supports Hillary.

What a convoluted mess!

Do I have it down?

Libya. polly7 Mar 2016 #1
Is it treason for a Secretary of State to do what she reportedly did? grasswire Mar 2016 #7
No. Treason has a very specific definition Scootaloo Mar 2016 #17
well, what is the punishment for betraying POTUS? grasswire Mar 2016 #28
Apparently, being replaced by John kerry Scootaloo Mar 2016 #38
He shoots, he scores!! grasswire Mar 2016 #60
So like, there was a memo, "Don't take advice from this motherfucker"? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #62
Here's a story about it. Wilms Mar 2016 #132
hmm Rich Lowry might be considered a bannable source. grasswire Mar 2016 #136
It's a minefield! Wilms Mar 2016 #145
So, let's untangle some threads, because influence is interesting. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #163
That's what I got...so far. Wilms Mar 2016 #173
oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive grasswire Mar 2016 #182
Here's the NYT story on it in 2009... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #225
I'm no lawyer so can't comment on whether its treason but what seems criminal is snagglepuss Mar 2016 #39
yeah and the Clinton Foundation had him on the payroll. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #44
As I think about it, Hillary's acceptance of his advice when he had a financial snagglepuss Mar 2016 #100
yeah! grasswire Mar 2016 #142
it's crony capitalism at its worst. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #156
I'll take door #2... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #226
Something else about this whole thing that... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #134
that's true, too grasswire Mar 2016 #135
If you distill this all down, the corruption,.. tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #140
I agree. grasswire Mar 2016 #141
Yes, pay to play... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #144
I'll speak up here: you are right that the avoidance of FOIA/subpoena is probably the prime motive, leveymg Mar 2016 #185
!!!! grasswire Mar 2016 #192
Not sure that any Fed official can avoid the oversight of the President, unless he agrees to that leveymg Mar 2016 #196
we are really in the weeds now grasswire Mar 2016 #198
By binding Presidential Order and the UCMJ, they are required to send any evidence of espionage up leveymg Mar 2016 #199
As for the head of the NSA at the time, that was Lt. Gen. Keith B. Alexander leveymg Mar 2016 #203
yes grasswire Mar 2016 #204
What, exactly, do you mean by 'Hillary's end run"? nt leveymg Mar 2016 #206
going against Obama's instructions to ban Blumenthal. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #207
Was that Obama's instruction, or Rahm Emanuel's? leveymg Mar 2016 #211
good point nt grasswire Mar 2016 #212
If I did this as a government employee, I'd be in prison shawn703 Mar 2016 #2
Yep, me too. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #221
LOL. Can't win with the voters, so try the courts! DanTex Mar 2016 #3
Last I heard no one has won yet, including Hillary berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #11
I guess you're not paying attention then. Hillary sealed it yesterday with a 5-0. DanTex Mar 2016 #21
Oh does that mean she won ALL the delegates? Or some of them? berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #25
She's up by 300+. Insurmountable. Game over. DanTex Mar 2016 #37
I take your responses to mean you see no problems with Beowulf Mar 2016 #103
We need to beat Trump. The email nonsense is a distraction. DanTex Mar 2016 #105
That's such a simplistic response. Beowulf Mar 2016 #114
It's accurate. And Bernie said the same thing in the first debate. DanTex Mar 2016 #116
I guess in your uncomplicated world it is. Beowulf Mar 2016 #117
Man, that is some serious simplistic rational you're peddling... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #133
Guess math isn't your forte. Neither is sportsmanship. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #222
Yeah and cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #177
BOOYAH BABY GO HILLARY!!!!! n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #205
Seriously? Huh? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #12
I know, it's weird that Bernie fans are so blind to the vote totals. DanTex Mar 2016 #20
I am so sorry for you. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #23
Thank you! I did cut myself shaving yesterday, I appreciate your concern! DanTex Mar 2016 #34
Ig ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #47
No. It's HRC who wants us to ignore that GOP primaries turned out 4 million more than Dems leveymg Mar 2016 #190
LOL. So you think we'd be better of with the candidate who got even less votes than Hillary? DanTex Mar 2016 #193
In the General, where Independents determine the outcome, Bernie is a far better candidate. leveymg Mar 2016 #195
Notice that you didn't respond DanTex. Would like to hear your response, unless you concede that leveymg Mar 2016 #197
Yeah right Politicalboi Mar 2016 #14
I hope your conspiracy theories work out well for you. DanTex Mar 2016 #19
+1 Going Gowdy NCTraveler Mar 2016 #26
So you dispute the information from Hillary's own emails? grasswire Mar 2016 #32
Hillary's history of poor decisions have nothing to do with right wing 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #224
Sad that you side with the Ruling Class. But it makes sense. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #50
I side with Hillary, and with the Democratic electorate. DanTex Mar 2016 #54
LOL. The will of the people. Goldman-Sachs uber alles, right? nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #101
You know, the whole voting thing that happened. You do believe in Democracy, right? DanTex Mar 2016 #102
And you believe the rich and super-rich should rule, right? Goldman-Sachs will make higher and rhett o rick Mar 2016 #104
No. That's why I support Hillary. DanTex Mar 2016 #107
You do know that her and Bill have amassed $150 million dollars in a short time, all from rhett o rick Mar 2016 #110
LOL. Same old Hillary-bashing. Don't you get bored with it? DanTex Mar 2016 #111
That's your response? I won't stop fighting the domination of the Ruling Class. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #115
Some people are ok with little children going hungry while those at the top get fatter. polly7 Mar 2016 #143
Give it a rest.... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #139
Here ya go, drop your boy a line 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #4
Yup. Going Gowdy. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #29
Entitlement, Cheating, Lying, soliciting sympathy, soliciting personal gains from her position,,, orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #5
Entitlement indeed. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #152
Regardless of whether or not she gets indicted... bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #6
Impeachment papers will be served on Inauguration Day. grasswire Mar 2016 #10
so true AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #146
Once you drink the water from the well . orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #13
Two Clinton's Impeached back to back ,how historic . orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #18
Well, she can't claim sexism in this case. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #121
Imagine the debates. 840high Mar 2016 #55
And her acolytes won't give a single, solitary fuck. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #113
Maybe Bernie should accept the Veep spot after all? GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #150
I can't imagine Mrs Clinton choosing Mr Sanders as Vice President. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #154
I can't imagine Bernie accepting a VP spot from Hillary. bvar22 Mar 2016 #216
K&R peacebird Mar 2016 #8
Delicious!!!!!!!! Politicalboi Mar 2016 #9
Just one of many marions ghost Mar 2016 #15
absolutely grasswire Mar 2016 #16
She's had baggage following her 840high Mar 2016 #59
Note: all of this information except for the speculation about what WILL happen to her.. grasswire Mar 2016 #22
The right-wing water is still being carried in this forum Tarc Mar 2016 #24
Sanders did not know then what we know now. grasswire Mar 2016 #40
Nothing new had been revealed Tarc Mar 2016 #112
Some materials are BORN Classified... druidity33 Mar 2016 #155
"Some materials are BORN Classified" Tarc Mar 2016 #161
Er, yes. Yes it is... druidity33 Mar 2016 #172
Analysis from right-wing sources on classification is not gonna cut it Tarc Mar 2016 #175
yes it is, and it's a real term. grasswire Mar 2016 #180
More than you, apparently Tarc Mar 2016 #183
sorry....you revealed your level of knowledge about the matter. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #186
Hillary Clinton, at no time, sent classified material Tarc Mar 2016 #214
did you look up the term "born classified" yet? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #220
does that come before "grasping at straws" Tarc Mar 2016 #223
Ask someone with "Clearance" sometime druidity33 Mar 2016 #213
Information is classified, not the medium of communication. Rilgin Mar 2016 #200
that's what "born classified" info is. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #208
FBI and 2 judges - all right wing? 840high Mar 2016 #66
Let us not forget eggman67 Mar 2016 #131
Thanks for the Summary, But . . . DarthDem Mar 2016 #27
Always a "but." Typical. desmiller Mar 2016 #69
She can buy more Facebook likes & Twitter followers. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #158
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #30
As what I've read, that's a good summary. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #31
FUBAR RobertEarl Mar 2016 #33
the whole thing reeks! going behind Obama's back! Blumenthal had smeared Obama during '08 amborin Mar 2016 #35
Apparently, the last time there was a rogue State Department... grasswire Mar 2016 #43
Keep ******* that chicken. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #36
I'm sorry, I can't read your mind. grasswire Mar 2016 #41
Can't. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #42
Do you have anything to say about the facts of the matter... grasswire Mar 2016 #48
Yes. See my first post. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #52
Bernie loses five states in one night ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #45
why do you care? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #46
Actually, I don't. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #75
Being... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #90
You are a replying to someone who lives in Canada. grasswire Mar 2016 #94
Sorry Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #97
That's pretty rich considering that 'demonizing the other candidate' Kentonio Mar 2016 #149
This has nothing to do 840high Mar 2016 #68
And she's still winning. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #86
It's of interest to many 840high Mar 2016 #122
Apparently the majority of Dem voters ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #124
Lost? If you call .2% in Missouri and a 1.8% in Illinois wins,,,,well, I guess you could not get a Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #108
The "wins" are based on delegates earned ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #118
You (like your candidate) evaded my questions. I guess you will have to google all those candidates Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #125
Ah, yes, of course. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #126
More of the same old bullshit. Nothing new. Hot air without substance. cheapdate Mar 2016 #49
apparently you didn't read. grasswire Mar 2016 #51
I read. Same old shit. She used her personal email server. We know. cheapdate Mar 2016 #78
Those emails again? Meh cosmicone Mar 2016 #53
keep dreaming grasswire Mar 2016 #56
Like ... Dalai Lama? He can't run. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #63
President Hillary Clinton wyldwolf Mar 2016 #57
Obama must be furious Hydra Mar 2016 #58
it could be seen that way, yes. grasswire Mar 2016 #65
She's not interested in his legacy Hydra Mar 2016 #73
hmmmm grasswire Mar 2016 #76
Yet Bernie wanted to primary Obama redstateblues Mar 2016 #109
yeah, once a campaigning theme is played out it's dropped like an old shoe MisterP Mar 2016 #162
I haven't read all the responses but none said bathroom so .. Jarqui Mar 2016 #61
do you have cite for what you say? grasswire Mar 2016 #67
I read it in a few places .. Jarqui Mar 2016 #80
correct me if I am wrong... grasswire Mar 2016 #83
In the actual quotes I made, they reveal what the CEO of the firm said Jarqui Mar 2016 #96
consider this October article from Politico grasswire Mar 2016 #130
I've seen so much reporting on at least some of the delete emails being Jarqui Mar 2016 #151
Ok. Let us assume she royally screwed up from "banned advisors" to IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #64
Because his legacy is at stake. 840high Mar 2016 #72
...and she is claiming to preserve his legacy. grasswire Mar 2016 #77
yep 840high Mar 2016 #123
thank you for good questions grasswire Mar 2016 #74
I am sceptical of Obama not knowing SOME of the issues - IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #87
"or she has something to keep her safe" grasswire Mar 2016 #92
Here is an interesting story... IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #202
Throughout Hillary's career there have been many attempts to bring her down by folks with scandals upaloopa Mar 2016 #70
I defended the Clintons for years. grasswire Mar 2016 #79
You don't know the Clintons. upaloopa Mar 2016 #81
Because I believe the American people deserve a president... grasswire Mar 2016 #88
Nobody agrees with you. You are part of some tiny group with an axe to grind. upaloopa Mar 2016 #91
sure grasswire Mar 2016 #93
Look at the votes she has gotten in the primary for your self. You don't ask questions you try to upaloopa Mar 2016 #95
I did the same FOR the Clintons when they were under attack by the GOP. grasswire Mar 2016 #98
I agree with him. Millions of other Americans agree, too. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #164
... BlindTiresias Mar 2016 #219
Wow... deathrind Mar 2016 #71
Bill Clinton had to be involved in this one. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #82
Sounds about right. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #129
He was paying Blumenthal $120k a year. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #167
yep pay to play grasswire Mar 2016 #181
Nope nothinh to see here... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #84
Paid for through the foundation. Rofl. RedCappedBandit Mar 2016 #85
LOL grasswire Mar 2016 #89
Doesn't matter. HassleCat Mar 2016 #99
Blumenthal is the new Chalabi. What does it make Clinton? nt thereismore Mar 2016 #106
Damn. Damn. grasswire Mar 2016 #119
The derp is strong captain! rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #120
I remember how cool it was that Obama got to keep using his ALBliberal Mar 2016 #127
yes, I remember. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #128
If Bernie's supporters had put this much effort into supporting BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #137
way to win support for your side...........not nt grasswire Mar 2016 #138
Sounds like you just fell off the turnip truck Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #147
What on earth is the matter with that woman? senz Mar 2016 #148
Fake republican scandal is fake. sufrommich Mar 2016 #153
Drip, drip, drip, drip.... PonyUp Mar 2016 #157
They need to either clear her or charge her and get it over with ASAP. Vinca Mar 2016 #159
The FBI most likely is not concerned about the timing. mmonk Mar 2016 #171
The fact they aren't rushing to end it is making me fear the worst. Vinca Mar 2016 #179
And your sources for these comments are...? spooky3 Mar 2016 #160
news FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #170
Why are there no links to the "news"? spooky3 Mar 2016 #174
If Clinton wins Presidency, it will be endless crap and probably rgbecker Mar 2016 #165
And a few more pro-Bernie OPs gets pushed a little deeper down the GDP stack. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #166
Framing is important. Email scandal makes people roll their eyes. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #168
Oh brother. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #169
true dat -- it's not an "email scandal" grasswire Mar 2016 #184
Sounds trustworthy and reliable to me! arcane1 Mar 2016 #176
Does Anyone have Credible fredamae Mar 2016 #178
This is beginning to look like the "House of Cards". It's all about power and money. jalan48 Mar 2016 #187
yes grasswire Mar 2016 #188
Maybe it's always been this way-it's just so blatant with the Clintons. jalan48 Mar 2016 #189
I present to you, the Indictment Fairy Tarc Mar 2016 #191
to quote astute DU-er leveymg grasswire Mar 2016 #194
I think what you are missing is that the email is the paper trail IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #201
She's super qualified! Prism Mar 2016 #209
This is how she does business Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #210
It makes me ill to think of what will happen to millions more around the world who've suffered polly7 Mar 2016 #217
Rich and powerful people set their own rules. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #215
This should not be in "primaries" but in GD, perhaps. Or foreign affairs lostnfound Mar 2016 #218
With all the trouble with terrorists why did she have a private server Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #227
That's what I'd like to know. pacalo Mar 2016 #228
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #229
you are welcome, Uncle Joe. grasswire Mar 2016 #230
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