2016 Postmortem

beachbum bob

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28. hillary can sleepwak to get the 42% of the remaining pledge delegats...its the math

Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:32 AM

Mar 2016

and sanders supporters don't want to accept it...just like hillary supporters in 2008....

hillary wins New York, Pennsylvanian, California....just the gains in delegates in those 3 states puts nearly over

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Removing the super delegates for clarity [View all] kristopher Mar 2016 OP

Good post. Thanks for sharing. Kittycat Mar 2016 #1

A majority of pledged delegates is just over 2000 jfern Mar 2016 #2

True. But that isn't what is required to win in first round vote. kristopher Mar 2016 #14

Super-D's vote on the first ballot. Adrahil Mar 2016 #26

They can't really be counted yet. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #44

Clinton already has 400 superdelegates endorsing her geek tragedy Mar 2016 #3

Well, no, you can't do that now. Superdelegates are a part of Sanders strategy stevenleser Mar 2016 #4

And by the way there is close to zero chance of a brokered convention in a two person race. stevenleser Mar 2016 #5

If Hillary gets less than 54% AND Bernie gets less than 67.5% where does that lead... kristopher Mar 2016 #9

Since all delegates vote it leads to one of the two going over the threshold. stevenleser Mar 2016 #12

Ok, I thought I'd heard differently, but I accept your word. kristopher Mar 2016 #15

We're not republicans, we've got super delegates. Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #6

That does the opposite of providing clarity BainsBane Mar 2016 #7

You are free to keep believing that fairytale. kristopher Mar 2016 #10

. BainsBane Mar 2016 #11

It's a fairy tale. kristopher Mar 2016 #17

I think he needs 74.6% JaneyVee Mar 2016 #30

I included his superdelegates BainsBane Mar 2016 #58

I have been finding it very curious how the msm always talks about the possibility of a GOP brokered jillan Mar 2016 #8

If you understand the process, you know that with only two candidates, its virtually impossible stevenleser Mar 2016 #13

This is why we must educate the supers RobertEarl Mar 2016 #16

Before you start educating Superdelegates... brooklynite Mar 2016 #27

Aren't you getting tired leftynyc Mar 2016 #42

My math is different. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #18

You mean the assumptions are different kristopher Mar 2016 #19

I get what you're doing but... Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #21

hillary can sleepwak to get the 42% of the remaining pledge delegats...its the math beachbum bob Mar 2016 #28

There was only a 62 pledged delegate spread in 2008. joshcryer Mar 2016 #20

She won't need Sanders delegates BainsBane Mar 2016 #22

Sanders will release his delegates. joshcryer Mar 2016 #23

Ted Kennedy actually tried to get delegates released from their first round pledges in 80 and failed DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #29

The supers are mostly symbolic. joshcryer Mar 2016 #32

Ted Kennedy wanted for the delegates to be released from their first round pledges. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #34

Yes, everyone seems to cloud the issue with their slanted theorizing pdsimdars Mar 2016 #46

I don't see anywhere that the minority heavy states benefit more than others. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #61

I'm talking of why they go earlier. joshcryer Mar 2016 #69

I don't see how the Mikulski Commission brought about those states going earlier. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #70

But, Bernie blew it with the superdelegates Onlooker Mar 2016 #24

I find it disingenuous for Bernie to even be on the ballot after all this time. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #62

Superdelegate votes are counted on the first ballot. BlueStateLib Mar 2016 #25

Sort of, but with a two-candidate race like this it should really be just a formality. eomer Mar 2016 #31

I agree, but that isn't the line the news media is promoting to help Hillary. kristopher Mar 2016 #35

True, but I don't think it helps to go along with their framing. eomer Mar 2016 #45

And that is why, if Bernie really does pull it off, he will have beaten "the establishment" pdsimdars Mar 2016 #48

LOL. Brokered convention. Sorry, she's up by 300+ pledged. It's a done deal. DanTex Mar 2016 #33

No where will you find those thoughts in my posts. kristopher Mar 2016 #36

Sanders will lose the closed primaries in AZ, NY, PA, and MD. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #37

That may be true. Then again, maybe not. kristopher Mar 2016 #38

My point is these states have a large amount of delegates and Sanders does poorly among hrmjustin Mar 2016 #39

You actually don't have a point - just an opinion. kristopher Mar 2016 #40

Well on April 26th you will get my point. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #41

I always like to point out that the Democratic Party is only 31% of the electorate pdsimdars Mar 2016 #51

.. but are they 'winner take all' in terms of delegates? Myrina Mar 2016 #47

No but she will win them by double digits. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #49

Like she did the other night, and *still* only came away with 57 more delegates ... Myrina Mar 2016 #50

Not all the delegates have been distributed from Tuesday. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #52

It looks like the delegates from Tuesday are now all accounted. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #64

Thanks. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #65

It is really not about losing states. (The media's fault) LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #63

With all the misleading posts about it being all over, it's nice to get real clarity. NUMBERS pdsimdars Mar 2016 #43

this OP is not clarity it is the opposite jcgoldie Mar 2016 #53

Fantastic Argument DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #54

54% v. 57% and we're starting on states that are better for Bernie! Woot! merrily Mar 2016 #55

lol She doesnt need 54% jcgoldie Mar 2016 #56

Using numbers without the automatic delegates makes it easier. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #66

I agree just throw out the superdelegates for the math jcgoldie Mar 2016 #68

+1 dana_b Mar 2016 #60

Ignoring super delegates does not help Sanders Gothmog Mar 2016 #57

Even if Sanders wins every remaining state at 60%, and discounting supers entirely... Tarc Mar 2016 #59

Technically, most of the automatic delegates will not support Sanders. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #67