2016 Postmortem

rhett o rick

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50. Sad that you side with the Ruling Class. But it makes sense.

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:21 PM

Mar 2016

Sooner or later we will take down the corrupt culture of Big Money in politics that you seem to revere. By the way Goldman-Sachs isn't interested helping the 50,000,000 American living in poverty. Are you?

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so here's what we know from the newest dump of HRC emails. [View all] grasswire Mar 2016 OP

Libya. polly7 Mar 2016 #1

Is it treason for a Secretary of State to do what she reportedly did? grasswire Mar 2016 #7

No. Treason has a very specific definition Scootaloo Mar 2016 #17

well, what is the punishment for betraying POTUS? grasswire Mar 2016 #28

Apparently, being replaced by John kerry Scootaloo Mar 2016 #38

He shoots, he scores!! grasswire Mar 2016 #60

So like, there was a memo, "Don't take advice from this motherfucker"? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #62

Here's a story about it. Wilms Mar 2016 #132

hmm Rich Lowry might be considered a bannable source. grasswire Mar 2016 #136

It's a minefield! Wilms Mar 2016 #145

So, let's untangle some threads, because influence is interesting. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #163

That's what I got...so far. Wilms Mar 2016 #173

oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive grasswire Mar 2016 #182

Here's the NYT story on it in 2009... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #225

I'm no lawyer so can't comment on whether its treason but what seems criminal is snagglepuss Mar 2016 #39

yeah and the Clinton Foundation had him on the payroll. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #44

As I think about it, Hillary's acceptance of his advice when he had a financial snagglepuss Mar 2016 #100

yeah! grasswire Mar 2016 #142

it's crony capitalism at its worst. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #156

I'll take door #2... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #226

Something else about this whole thing that... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #134

that's true, too grasswire Mar 2016 #135

If you distill this all down, the corruption,.. tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #140

I agree. grasswire Mar 2016 #141

Yes, pay to play... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #144

I'll speak up here: you are right that the avoidance of FOIA/subpoena is probably the prime motive, leveymg Mar 2016 #185

!!!! grasswire Mar 2016 #192

Not sure that any Fed official can avoid the oversight of the President, unless he agrees to that leveymg Mar 2016 #196

we are really in the weeds now grasswire Mar 2016 #198

By binding Presidential Order and the UCMJ, they are required to send any evidence of espionage up leveymg Mar 2016 #199

As for the head of the NSA at the time, that was Lt. Gen. Keith B. Alexander leveymg Mar 2016 #203

yes grasswire Mar 2016 #204

What, exactly, do you mean by 'Hillary's end run"? nt leveymg Mar 2016 #206

going against Obama's instructions to ban Blumenthal. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #207

Was that Obama's instruction, or Rahm Emanuel's? leveymg Mar 2016 #211

good point nt grasswire Mar 2016 #212

If I did this as a government employee, I'd be in prison shawn703 Mar 2016 #2

Yep, me too. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #221

LOL. Can't win with the voters, so try the courts! DanTex Mar 2016 #3

Last I heard no one has won yet, including Hillary berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #11

I guess you're not paying attention then. Hillary sealed it yesterday with a 5-0. DanTex Mar 2016 #21

Oh does that mean she won ALL the delegates? Or some of them? berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #25

She's up by 300+. Insurmountable. Game over. DanTex Mar 2016 #37

I take your responses to mean you see no problems with Beowulf Mar 2016 #103

We need to beat Trump. The email nonsense is a distraction. DanTex Mar 2016 #105

That's such a simplistic response. Beowulf Mar 2016 #114

It's accurate. And Bernie said the same thing in the first debate. DanTex Mar 2016 #116

I guess in your uncomplicated world it is. Beowulf Mar 2016 #117

Man, that is some serious simplistic rational you're peddling... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #133

Guess math isn't your forte. Neither is sportsmanship. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #222

Yeah and cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #177

BOOYAH BABY GO HILLARY!!!!! n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #205

Seriously? Huh? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #12

I know, it's weird that Bernie fans are so blind to the vote totals. DanTex Mar 2016 #20

I am so sorry for you. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #23

Thank you! I did cut myself shaving yesterday, I appreciate your concern! DanTex Mar 2016 #34

Ig ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #47

No. It's HRC who wants us to ignore that GOP primaries turned out 4 million more than Dems leveymg Mar 2016 #190

LOL. So you think we'd be better of with the candidate who got even less votes than Hillary? DanTex Mar 2016 #193

In the General, where Independents determine the outcome, Bernie is a far better candidate. leveymg Mar 2016 #195

Notice that you didn't respond DanTex. Would like to hear your response, unless you concede that leveymg Mar 2016 #197

Yeah right Politicalboi Mar 2016 #14

I hope your conspiracy theories work out well for you. DanTex Mar 2016 #19

+1 Going Gowdy NCTraveler Mar 2016 #26

So you dispute the information from Hillary's own emails? grasswire Mar 2016 #32

Hillary's history of poor decisions have nothing to do with right wing 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #224

Sad that you side with the Ruling Class. But it makes sense. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #50

I side with Hillary, and with the Democratic electorate. DanTex Mar 2016 #54

LOL. The will of the people. Goldman-Sachs uber alles, right? nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #101

You know, the whole voting thing that happened. You do believe in Democracy, right? DanTex Mar 2016 #102

And you believe the rich and super-rich should rule, right? Goldman-Sachs will make higher and rhett o rick Mar 2016 #104

No. That's why I support Hillary. DanTex Mar 2016 #107

You do know that her and Bill have amassed $150 million dollars in a short time, all from rhett o rick Mar 2016 #110

LOL. Same old Hillary-bashing. Don't you get bored with it? DanTex Mar 2016 #111

That's your response? I won't stop fighting the domination of the Ruling Class. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #115

Some people are ok with little children going hungry while those at the top get fatter. polly7 Mar 2016 #143

Give it a rest.... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #139

Here ya go, drop your boy a line 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #4

Yup. Going Gowdy. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #29

Entitlement, Cheating, Lying, soliciting sympathy, soliciting personal gains from her position,,, orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #5

Entitlement indeed. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #152

Regardless of whether or not she gets indicted... bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #6

Impeachment papers will be served on Inauguration Day. grasswire Mar 2016 #10

so true AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #146

Once you drink the water from the well . orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #13

Two Clinton's Impeached back to back ,how historic . orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #18

Well, she can't claim sexism in this case. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #121

Imagine the debates. 840high Mar 2016 #55

And her acolytes won't give a single, solitary fuck. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #113

Maybe Bernie should accept the Veep spot after all? GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #150

I can't imagine Mrs Clinton choosing Mr Sanders as Vice President. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #154

I can't imagine Bernie accepting a VP spot from Hillary. bvar22 Mar 2016 #216

K&R peacebird Mar 2016 #8

Delicious!!!!!!!! Politicalboi Mar 2016 #9

Just one of many marions ghost Mar 2016 #15

absolutely grasswire Mar 2016 #16

She's had baggage following her 840high Mar 2016 #59

Note: all of this information except for the speculation about what WILL happen to her.. grasswire Mar 2016 #22

The right-wing water is still being carried in this forum Tarc Mar 2016 #24

Sanders did not know then what we know now. grasswire Mar 2016 #40

Nothing new had been revealed Tarc Mar 2016 #112

Some materials are BORN Classified... druidity33 Mar 2016 #155

"Some materials are BORN Classified" Tarc Mar 2016 #161

Er, yes. Yes it is... druidity33 Mar 2016 #172

Analysis from right-wing sources on classification is not gonna cut it Tarc Mar 2016 #175

yes it is, and it's a real term. grasswire Mar 2016 #180

More than you, apparently Tarc Mar 2016 #183

sorry....you revealed your level of knowledge about the matter. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #186

Hillary Clinton, at no time, sent classified material Tarc Mar 2016 #214

did you look up the term "born classified" yet? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #220

does that come before "grasping at straws" Tarc Mar 2016 #223

Ask someone with "Clearance" sometime druidity33 Mar 2016 #213

Information is classified, not the medium of communication. Rilgin Mar 2016 #200

that's what "born classified" info is. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #208

FBI and 2 judges - all right wing? 840high Mar 2016 #66

Let us not forget eggman67 Mar 2016 #131

Thanks for the Summary, But . . . DarthDem Mar 2016 #27

Always a "but." Typical. desmiller Mar 2016 #69

She can buy more Facebook likes & Twitter followers. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #158

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #30

As what I've read, that's a good summary. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #31

FUBAR RobertEarl Mar 2016 #33

the whole thing reeks! going behind Obama's back! Blumenthal had smeared Obama during '08 amborin Mar 2016 #35

Apparently, the last time there was a rogue State Department... grasswire Mar 2016 #43

Keep ******* that chicken. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #36

I'm sorry, I can't read your mind. grasswire Mar 2016 #41

Can't. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #42

Do you have anything to say about the facts of the matter... grasswire Mar 2016 #48

Yes. See my first post. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #52

Bernie loses five states in one night ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #45

why do you care? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #46

Actually, I don't. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #75

Being... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #90

You are a replying to someone who lives in Canada. grasswire Mar 2016 #94

Sorry Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #97

That's pretty rich considering that 'demonizing the other candidate' Kentonio Mar 2016 #149

This has nothing to do 840high Mar 2016 #68

And she's still winning. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #86

It's of interest to many 840high Mar 2016 #122

Apparently the majority of Dem voters ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #124

Lost? If you call .2% in Missouri and a 1.8% in Illinois wins,,,,well, I guess you could not get a Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #108

The "wins" are based on delegates earned ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #118

You (like your candidate) evaded my questions. I guess you will have to google all those candidates Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #125

Ah, yes, of course. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #126

More of the same old bullshit. Nothing new. Hot air without substance. cheapdate Mar 2016 #49

apparently you didn't read. grasswire Mar 2016 #51

I read. Same old shit. She used her personal email server. We know. cheapdate Mar 2016 #78

Those emails again? Meh cosmicone Mar 2016 #53

keep dreaming grasswire Mar 2016 #56

Like ... Dalai Lama? He can't run. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #63

President Hillary Clinton wyldwolf Mar 2016 #57

Obama must be furious Hydra Mar 2016 #58

it could be seen that way, yes. grasswire Mar 2016 #65

She's not interested in his legacy Hydra Mar 2016 #73

hmmmm grasswire Mar 2016 #76

Yet Bernie wanted to primary Obama redstateblues Mar 2016 #109

yeah, once a campaigning theme is played out it's dropped like an old shoe MisterP Mar 2016 #162

I haven't read all the responses but none said bathroom so .. Jarqui Mar 2016 #61

do you have cite for what you say? grasswire Mar 2016 #67

I read it in a few places .. Jarqui Mar 2016 #80

correct me if I am wrong... grasswire Mar 2016 #83

In the actual quotes I made, they reveal what the CEO of the firm said Jarqui Mar 2016 #96

consider this October article from Politico grasswire Mar 2016 #130

I've seen so much reporting on at least some of the delete emails being Jarqui Mar 2016 #151

Ok. Let us assume she royally screwed up from "banned advisors" to IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #64

Because his legacy is at stake. 840high Mar 2016 #72

...and she is claiming to preserve his legacy. grasswire Mar 2016 #77

yep 840high Mar 2016 #123

thank you for good questions grasswire Mar 2016 #74

I am sceptical of Obama not knowing SOME of the issues - IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #87

"or she has something to keep her safe" grasswire Mar 2016 #92

Here is an interesting story... IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #202

Throughout Hillary's career there have been many attempts to bring her down by folks with scandals upaloopa Mar 2016 #70

I defended the Clintons for years. grasswire Mar 2016 #79

You don't know the Clintons. upaloopa Mar 2016 #81

Because I believe the American people deserve a president... grasswire Mar 2016 #88

Nobody agrees with you. You are part of some tiny group with an axe to grind. upaloopa Mar 2016 #91

sure grasswire Mar 2016 #93

Look at the votes she has gotten in the primary for your self. You don't ask questions you try to upaloopa Mar 2016 #95

I did the same FOR the Clintons when they were under attack by the GOP. grasswire Mar 2016 #98

I agree with him. Millions of other Americans agree, too. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #164

... BlindTiresias Mar 2016 #219

Wow... deathrind Mar 2016 #71

Bill Clinton had to be involved in this one. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #82

Sounds about right. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #129

He was paying Blumenthal $120k a year. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #167

yep pay to play grasswire Mar 2016 #181

Nope nothinh to see here... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #84

Paid for through the foundation. Rofl. RedCappedBandit Mar 2016 #85

LOL grasswire Mar 2016 #89

Doesn't matter. HassleCat Mar 2016 #99

Blumenthal is the new Chalabi. What does it make Clinton? nt thereismore Mar 2016 #106

Damn. Damn. grasswire Mar 2016 #119

The derp is strong captain! rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #120

I remember how cool it was that Obama got to keep using his ALBliberal Mar 2016 #127

yes, I remember. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #128

If Bernie's supporters had put this much effort into supporting BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #137

way to win support for your side...........not nt grasswire Mar 2016 #138

Sounds like you just fell off the turnip truck Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #147

What on earth is the matter with that woman? senz Mar 2016 #148

Fake republican scandal is fake. sufrommich Mar 2016 #153

Drip, drip, drip, drip.... PonyUp Mar 2016 #157

They need to either clear her or charge her and get it over with ASAP. Vinca Mar 2016 #159

The FBI most likely is not concerned about the timing. mmonk Mar 2016 #171

The fact they aren't rushing to end it is making me fear the worst. Vinca Mar 2016 #179

And your sources for these comments are...? spooky3 Mar 2016 #160

news FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #170

Why are there no links to the "news"? spooky3 Mar 2016 #174

If Clinton wins Presidency, it will be endless crap and probably rgbecker Mar 2016 #165

And a few more pro-Bernie OPs gets pushed a little deeper down the GDP stack. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #166

Framing is important. Email scandal makes people roll their eyes. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #168

Oh brother. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #169

true dat -- it's not an "email scandal" grasswire Mar 2016 #184

Sounds trustworthy and reliable to me! arcane1 Mar 2016 #176

Does Anyone have Credible fredamae Mar 2016 #178

This is beginning to look like the "House of Cards". It's all about power and money. jalan48 Mar 2016 #187

yes grasswire Mar 2016 #188

Maybe it's always been this way-it's just so blatant with the Clintons. jalan48 Mar 2016 #189

I present to you, the Indictment Fairy Tarc Mar 2016 #191

to quote astute DU-er leveymg grasswire Mar 2016 #194

I think what you are missing is that the email is the paper trail IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #201

She's super qualified! Prism Mar 2016 #209

This is how she does business Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #210

It makes me ill to think of what will happen to millions more around the world who've suffered polly7 Mar 2016 #217

Rich and powerful people set their own rules. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #215

This should not be in "primaries" but in GD, perhaps. Or foreign affairs lostnfound Mar 2016 #218

With all the trouble with terrorists why did she have a private server Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #227

That's what I'd like to know. pacalo Mar 2016 #228

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #229

you are welcome, Uncle Joe. grasswire Mar 2016 #230