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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
33. ...except...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:28 AM
Mar 2016

the message from the left-base of the Democratic party has been clear...there is no quarter here for those disaffected conservatives or those here that would extend an olive branch to them. They are not welcome, they will never be welcome as they currently are, and those that court them will be driven away. The party is the party of the Democratic base, not the Democratic establishment; likewise the Democratic tent is not a political refugee camp for those fleeing the insanity of the Republican party.

I'm okay with this, honestly. It might be that my mother's side of the family is culturally-middle-eastern (Syrian Catholics of Phoenecian, not Arabic, descent.) and there is a quote of the region regarding negotiations with refugees..."You will become us or you will be slaughtered upon the sands and driven into the sea." (The other part of that side of the family is Cree and if the Native Americans thought more like my Syrian ancestors, we'd all be browner and speaking Algonquian.) It sums up my feelings about DLCers and disaffected Republicans perfectly...sign on the dotted-line for the entirely of the progressive cause without conditions, exceptions or incrementalism; get out; or get driven the fuck out.

If I've ever thought there was a weakness of the left, it was the resistance to taking up metaphorical swords against the pretenders and quislings inside the Democratic tent...that seems to be at an end. It's our party--pain and misery to those that would try to take it from us.

Yes, and I'll bet a lot of paid political strategists are up... grasswire Mar 2016 #1
May they convert instead to human beings. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #3
And I can assure you Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #13
That great quote - it's hard to understand something when you're paid not to understand it pdsimdars Mar 2016 #23
+1 dchill Mar 2016 #76
it's like a candle lit against the darkness by vast numbers who only had their courage and their roguevalley Mar 2016 #118
Only if you watch media saturation coverage jberryhill Mar 2016 #2
That alone would be a majority, no? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #4
Or walk around people during the day.... daleanime Mar 2016 #6
Yes, growing distrust of the establishment & greater consciousness of a rigged system. senz Mar 2016 #5
Good post. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #69
Positive or negative? Sanders has made positive sea changes. Trump, on the other hand, is merrily Mar 2016 #7
It's kind of a contest between good and evil within the same revolution. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #30
I know what you mean. Merryland Mar 2016 #55
Yours is a highly significant point that all need to understand. ladjf Mar 2016 #71
My opinion is that history shows during....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #84
Excellent post. IMO, merrily Mar 2016 #87
I believe you are right. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #88
It's been a long time coming but starting with wilsonbooks Mar 2016 #8
Yes. ladjf Mar 2016 #72
Bernie has explained how political changes really happen OutNow Mar 2016 #9
+1 Kittycat Mar 2016 #12
it's the difference between Merryland Mar 2016 #59
Very keen observation. earthside Mar 2016 #80
excellent differentiation Between Hill and Bernie marions ghost Mar 2016 #82
Comic book fans call it "damseling" starroute Mar 2016 #86
+1 ladjf Mar 2016 #73
Can't figure out why I'm suddenly feeling sympathetic toward Trump. mia Mar 2016 #10
... when you look at tRump & who he represents, it's easy to feel sorry ... Myrina Mar 2016 #43
they are likely the same people whose life expectancy is not going up in this modern world Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #45
You think everyone at a Trump rally is a EL34x4 Mar 2016 #68
I think you're right marions ghost Mar 2016 #83
... did I say anything about the rallies? Myrina Mar 2016 #105
Many of them are probably paid to attend the rallies Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #117
everyone is looking for salvation from this shit we're in. the less enlightened go for trump but we roguevalley Mar 2016 #119
I feel ZERO sympathy for Trump. If he has any saving graces, I'm not aware ladjf Mar 2016 #74
tectonic shift ... that's how i've been describing it lately 0rganism Mar 2016 #11
which makes the Democratic party dana_b Mar 2016 #26
...except... Chan790 Mar 2016 #33
"The party is the party of the Democratic base"-- really? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #47
Not if they are still conservatives and bring that philosophy with them. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #62
That is how you grow... Z_California Mar 2016 #97
Exactly. +1 n/t Chan790 Mar 2016 #99
agreed - this will be the next phase of political realignment 0rganism Mar 2016 #115
Yes, the earth quakes from the steps of Bernie Sanders coming to get you!!!! Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #14
The deep, festering boil of the right is coming to a head, ready for lancing and drainage Scootaloo Mar 2016 #15
Ew. (N/T) Old Crow Mar 2016 #28
YUP, that sounds like the Third Way/DLC/ Wall Street, and corporate coddling bunch alright..n/t tokenlib Mar 2016 #40
I sense a lot of game's afoot to maintain the status quo. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #16
The PTB might be able to pull that off this year, but Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #103
This ain't your old school one-dimensional game of chess... AnotherVoter Mar 2016 #17
that's a really interesting read. dana_b Mar 2016 #27
Nice diagram. I like the fact that Hillary's policy bubble is completely empty sorechasm Mar 2016 #38
I just got back from spending almost an hour Blus4u Mar 2016 #41
Glad you liked it! AnotherVoter Mar 2016 #123
A hurricane is coming VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #18
Hurricane Hillary and better batten the hatches. nt ucrdem Mar 2016 #19
...Wrong name. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #20
First woman president. We're losing our collective beans over the prospect. ucrdem Mar 2016 #21
Oh, I don't think anyone's losing their beans over the Tulsi Gabbard presidency. Old Crow Mar 2016 #29
Zing! I like that. She's great. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #37
well played Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #48
Thank you! Old Crow Mar 2016 #92
There are many feminists who would be delighted for a woman President. It's just myrna minx Mar 2016 #31
yes, I agree. Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #49
this woman agress eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #52
Exactly farleftlib Mar 2016 #56
well said marions ghost Mar 2016 #85
That's got to be the nuttiest comment of the day. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #67
Nevertheless Rove and the Kochs are actively supporting Bernie. Not Clinton. LINKS: ucrdem Mar 2016 #107
I don't use earthquake metaphors lightly--I'm a Californian! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #22
That is the coolest post. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #32
I recommend two books that helps explain what's going on right now Casandia Mar 2016 #35
wow - what a great analogy dana_b Mar 2016 #39
I wish I could rec your post for "SuperDooper Detector Thingee"! ebayfool Mar 2016 #44
Wow! What you said! You rock! BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #46
Nice analogy! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #50
brilliant, beautiful analysis Merryland Mar 2016 #63
Marxists would call those social conditions......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #93
Great post, but dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #120
Agreed. Revolution Brewing billhicks76 Mar 2016 #24
Yes but it's unnerving because dana_b Mar 2016 #25
All of the Republican candidates are dangerous. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #75
Feels like a big black swan coming. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #34
that's an incredibly cool background! renate Mar 2016 #98
Long overdue. Bound to happen some time. Please God make it so. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #36
I'll toast that tectonic shift after Bernie wins Ohio. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #42
Yes. Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #51
yes yes yes yes yes! Merryland Mar 2016 #53
Yes ... salinsky Mar 2016 #54
Yea, I think it has been building and we are reaching a point where Karma13612 Mar 2016 #57
No. treestar Mar 2016 #58
no we cant berningman Mar 2016 #65
Constitutional rules are what they are. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #91
we don't have to treestar Mar 2016 #95
Yes. H2O Man Mar 2016 #60
Republicans are screwing up but this is still a center-right country IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #61
The Republicans are "bat sh.t crazy". I don't know what the ladjf Mar 2016 #70
I disagree that this is a center-right country...... socialist_n_TN Mar 2016 #100
See below BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #64
I wish it were so, but I don't see it. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #66
If we spent half the time we waste in discouraging people by explaining to them how it can't be done BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #79
Millions of us now recognize the political establishment does not have our best interests at heart. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #77
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Mar 2016 #78
the same 1% own the machines that count our votes questionseverything Mar 2016 #102
Call me a conspiracy theorist but I believe Enthusiast Mar 2016 #104
Yup, no telling where this will all end up CanonRay Mar 2016 #81
Yes. nt LWolf Mar 2016 #89
K/R UglyGreed Mar 2016 #90
Yes. A large number of people no longer accept that politics-as-usual is indicative of democracy. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #94
We had better hope not, since the only massive change possible after this election is to the right. stevenleser Mar 2016 #96
I Often Don't RobinA Mar 2016 #111
Exactly. Been feeling it for months now. The US is changing dramatically and quickly. JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #101
Then Why RobinA Mar 2016 #110
Both are true and one has led to the other. JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #113
Well, We'll See RobinA Mar 2016 #121
The beltway poop-bahs are completely clueless. It's the 21st century and they're acting like its 96. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #106
The establishment seems to be stuck in a 20th century alternative universe JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #122
Nope RobinA Mar 2016 #108
Steven King summed up the current situation quite Utopian Leftist Mar 2016 #109
Well Trump certainly is the epitome of that. KoKo Mar 2016 #114
Well, let's see AwakeAtLast Mar 2016 #112
yes and it parallels the shift away from big brands GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #116
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