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BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
44. That's not even true in regard to class alone
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:24 PM
Mar 2016

To pretend people making $200-$400k a year are not privileged is absurd. That's not even counting the majority of Americans who aren't white and male, and subject to this sort of thing: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017336519
voter disenfranchisement, and laws regarding racism, all ignored by your post, as though no one else even matters.

The 99% construction enables the upper-middle class to pretend they are exploited. They are not. There is as much if not more difference between the lower 10 percent and the upper 89-99% as between the upper-middle class and the wealthy. I've lived at the bottom of that spectrum and near the 50 percent mark, and the difference is tremendous. Whether one has food or housing makes a far bigger difference than if they have four or six bathrooms.


The Bernie or Bush argument also shows that policy is completely irrelevant, and they don't even care about seeing Citizens United overturned. For those who go so far as to argue that Trump is better, they demonstrate in now uncertain terms that the one thing they care about is maintaining and regaining privilege.

Of course it is. Only people who won't be affected by a Trump or Cruz presidency can afford to lunamagica Mar 2016 #1
Trump is very dangerous. He reminds me of Martin Sheen's character in The Dead Zone grossproffit Mar 2016 #4
Yep "luxury" angrychair Mar 2016 #21
Only Bernie's right wingers and a few extremists will abandon Hortensis Mar 2016 #27
HRC is a "moderate centrist" angrychair Mar 2016 #31
Overall, Hillary is a strong social liberal, a moderate Hortensis Mar 2016 #37
"moderate economic liberal?" Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #71
Yes, remember, even strong liberals are seldom as far left Hortensis Mar 2016 #87
It's more a matter of me not using the hugely RW-skewed current US spectrum to define things. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #92
Why ignore our culture to go "global" when it is not applicable? Hortensis Mar 2016 #93
In large part because I want to work to un-skew our political spectrum. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #96
Hillary was rated one of the most liberal Senators redstateblues Mar 2016 #105
Yep. grossproffit Mar 2016 #45
They are not the same, and you know it lunamagica Mar 2016 #38
Yep they can become citizens angrychair Mar 2016 #47
GMAB. You ask me to give you concrete, I give it to you and this is your answer? lunamagica Mar 2016 #52
What? angrychair Mar 2016 #65
The point of the OP was if it came to Clinton and Trump, not voting for Clinton lunamagica Mar 2016 #74
Luxury angrychair Mar 2016 #98
You forgot the women of childbearing age drmeow Mar 2016 #109
True! A vote that just like not voting at all... DeGreg Mar 2016 #85
Every non-swing-state voter has the same "luxury." Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #64
WHO told Drumpf that he should run lunamagia? Lorien Mar 2016 #75
I don't get your point. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #103
k&r Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #2
Clinton is the candidate of privileged people Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #3
+1 Svafa Mar 2016 #18
Nooooooooo. You don;lt have to be "privileged" to have principles and beliefs Armstead Mar 2016 #5
Somebody quick--go tell Winona LaDuke how privileged she is Mufaddal Mar 2016 #14
This is such crap. Sivart Mar 2016 #6
"Shame on Democrats on this site for starting this crap. " nt. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #8
+1. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #20
. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #22
I've tried advocating for at least a modicum of cross-camp support but VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #25
I have started posting more pro-Clinton articles than anti-Sanders. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #29
All we can do is try, right? nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #30
"Shame on Democrats on this site for... " for what? PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #28
For pretending.... Sivart Mar 2016 #56
Vote for Democrats. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #58
Is the primary over? Sivart Mar 2016 #72
It's adorable how you're trying to be coy. This OP is about the Bernie or Bust movement. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #81
what is ridiculous? Sivart Mar 2016 #90
What is ridiculous is people on this site advocating that movement. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #91
Ha!! Sivart Mar 2016 #94
Or moral conviction. dogman Mar 2016 #7
Try to ignore them. They'll go away eventually. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #9
Your gif has me mezmorized. lol. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #10
No, it's a stance based on Constitutional RIGHTS. NaturalHigh Mar 2016 #11
You should listen to what people say. Cleita Mar 2016 #12
I won't cast a vote based on fear. NowSam Mar 2016 #13
Exactly! Falling in line is how we ended up with Reagan Democrats & Kittycat Mar 2016 #88
Well said. NowSam Mar 2016 #97
As they like to say in Texas, "Bless your heart". 7wo7rees Mar 2016 #15
Thank you very much for your warm Texas regards. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #17
Snickering at the Texas quote. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #23
lol Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #16
from your link Go Vols Mar 2016 #19
My thoughts exactly:) litlbilly Mar 2016 #26
Perfectly stated. Svafa Mar 2016 #40
Yep. vintx Mar 2016 #63
Dead perfect! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #67
BINGO! nt Lorien Mar 2016 #79
1%ers vs the rest of us. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #24
That's not even true in regard to class alone BainsBane Mar 2016 #44
The shenanigans to try to make sure Sanders loses the Dem nom are based on what? merrily Mar 2016 #32
Good questions vintx Mar 2016 #66
Sanders could win the Presidential election. dchill Mar 2016 #33
No way can he win the GE. cwydro Mar 2016 #53
Millions disagree. dchill Mar 2016 #84
Well, if those millions get out and vote... cwydro Mar 2016 #86
They're trying to make those who don't like Clinton feel guilty CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #34
Or lack thereof. mmonk Mar 2016 #35
One more time Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #36
Yet another condescending thread by Hillary supporters trying to round up Bernie supporters. HerbChestnut Mar 2016 #39
Gotta love the irony here. LonePirate Mar 2016 #41
Yup. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #42
They Don't Care. LeFleur1 Mar 2016 #110
Well said. Thank you. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #111
Privilege, thy name is Hillary Clinton. panader0 Mar 2016 #43
Supporting NAFTA, Walmart and the WTO is a stance based on privelge Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #46
Tossing aside women's rights, immigration, climate change and LGBT rights PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #50
Tossing aside whole cities letting them rust into dust in order to stand on your moral high ground. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #55
You are really moving goalposts and I have no idea what road you think you're going down. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #61
Well, when you support policies that lead to whole cities being poisoned, Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #69
k and r. cwydro Mar 2016 #48
In many cases just supporting Bernie is based on privilege, IMO MaggieD Mar 2016 #49
"a host of people".. is a "host" enough to throw the election to Trump? yodermon Mar 2016 #51
Privilege? cwydro Mar 2016 #54
Not mutually exclusive. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #62
True dat. cwydro Mar 2016 #68
I'm black, moderately disabled, young, I sure as hell can't afford a Trump/Cruz presidency forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #57
Ye olde 'Exercising your constitutional right is selfish' dogshit whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #59
+1 NaturalHigh Mar 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #60
privileged? You are dam right I am privileged Gwhittey Mar 2016 #73
Supporting the status quo is a stance based on privilege. nt Svafa Mar 2016 #76
NOPE; it's about being ethical and doing what is morally and ethically right amborin Mar 2016 #77
Voting bomb the crap out of Iran, Frack the planet to death, and kill the working classes Lorien Mar 2016 #78
whatever you need to tell yourself ibegurpard Mar 2016 #80
Personally I think it's a stance based on ignorance and MineralMan Mar 2016 #82
No, it's a stance based on RIGHT, not privilege. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #83
This is a "When did you stop beating your wife?" frame Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #89
Looks like a defense for a candidate who they don't trust can deliver. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #95
It's a stance based on principle. mhatrw Mar 2016 #99
and attempting to shame them Mnpaul Mar 2016 #100
The narrative of the day evidently NowSam Mar 2016 #101
Why should I vote for someone Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #102
What a load of bullshit. You Hillary fantatics never seem to find a new low to insult people. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #104
I don't know what I'll do. Jarqui Mar 2016 #106
k&r bigtree Mar 2016 #107
I chose to reply as a separate post Mike__M Mar 2016 #108
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