2016 Postmortem

merrily

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151. Markos

Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:42 PM

Mar 2016

Remarks about Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign

On March 17, 2008, Moulitsas stated that Senator Hillary Clinton, who was then involved in a protracted race against Senator Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, "doesn't deserve fairness on this site" because she "fails the test of the guiding principles of this site" and because Clinton had "no reasonable chance of victory". He accused her of "formenting civil war in order to overturn the will of the Democratic electorate" and said Clinton's "only path to victory [...] is via coup by super delegate."[22] His statement was precipitated by a "strike" conducted by several pro-Clinton diarists, even though none of these posters was paid or in any way officially linked to the site.[23] Moulitsas responded directly to the "strike" by saying that it was more like a "boycott", noting that "It's a big Internet, so I hope they find what they're looking for.

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Moulitsas is a fellow at the New Politics Institute,[33][34] a think tank of the New Democrat Network, which was founded by Simon Rosenberg in 1996. The NDN's stated purpose is to help elect "centrist" Democrats, and is considered by many to be a successor to the centrist Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), an organization that Simon Rosenberg resigned from in 1996.

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Today I Quit Daily Kos by Salam Morcos [View all] Billsmile Mar 2016 OP

1% vs. 99% - I see it in everything that occurs. / FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #1

Because it's there ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #118

This VID is already posted here...but she says it like it is! Rockyj Mar 2016 #150

Class war. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #161

DailyKos is over-rated -- DU is much better anyhow! Herman4747 Mar 2016 #2

Was DailyKos considered over-rated SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #20

Yes. If you think Daily Kos is better than DU, then post there instead. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #32

I have been here a decade longer than you SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #48

Dick measuring should only be at republican debates. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #49

Yes, you also think Daily Kos is overrated. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #50

Daily Kos is overrated. I've been a member of DU since its first few months after the (s)election. w4rma Mar 2016 #53

Not because they are 'newer' SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #56

"I have been here a decade longer than you" w4rma Mar 2016 #58

You took issue with someone's claim that DU was better than Daily Kos. PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #152

Well, smell me! Aren't I the most wonderful Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #163

Actually I have thought Daily Kos is over-rated for... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #38

Another thrown under the Bernie bus Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #71

Cause you would never throw anyone under the Clinton bus, passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #160

No it's because anyone who criticises Bernie Sanders or praises Hillary Clinton Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #173

Did I disparage you? Or Elizabeth Warren? passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #176

Daily Kos is and always has been the official website of the Third Way and Kos despises sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #93

I know that you are an extremely dedicated liberal... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #133

Yes, the only good thing about a website that misrepresents itself to the public, are the people who sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #143

Please Sabrina passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #177

I was very active there for @ 3 years. Left in 2008 Arazi Mar 2016 #142

Exactly! Dem Socialist 2016 Mar 2016 #144

I Prefer DU gordyfl Mar 2016 #162

I would like to think Hillary is moving left after listening to the people, but I don't. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #171

@SalamMorcos: Oh, grow up! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #3

Bingo. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #11

yes, grow up and do what you're told. Nothing like obedience is there. roguevalley Mar 2016 #45

Just a polite question. RiverNoord Mar 2016 #64

Been reading Daily Kos for years. Love that site. Laser102 Mar 2016 #97

I know. LisaM Mar 2016 #112

Another thrown under the Hillary bus Loudestlib Mar 2016 #157

I had to turn the channel when Mark Thompson's show MIP would have Moulitsas on almost daily Snotcicles Mar 2016 #4

I love Mark... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #79

I pick up the same thing. Even after Bernie started showing the massive turn outs at his rallies. Snotcicles Mar 2016 #84

Same Here elljay Mar 2016 #117

That's not what Kos said... n/t Lucinda Mar 2016 #5

Well, true 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #17

Exactly right. spooky3 Mar 2016 #70

If you read Bob altmeyer' s book The Authoritarians, you will discover that Mrs Clinton supporters Doctor_J Mar 2016 #6

Please explain Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #12

They tailor their views to their leaders, even if they are 180° from yesterday's Doctor_J Mar 2016 #19

That seems really familiar to what infests DU these days. All of a sudden long held progressive... Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #22

lol you nailed it. closeupready Mar 2016 #62

Don't forget the right wing "free stuff" comment by Hillary and her "progressive" followers. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #81

Yes the "free stuff" is straight up Freep resentment mongering Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #83

If Hillary's non-progressive, conservative views were all Red Oak Mar 2016 #92

I don't know about that. Chan790 Mar 2016 #158

In regards to the GLBT community Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #164

That's what it is, you nailed it! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #86

and when people who have long held these views dana_b Mar 2016 #90

or StealTheBern: they're very excited about Clinton's workable and unprecedented plan MisterP Mar 2016 #105

It has been enlightening. nt artislife Mar 2016 #30

Definitely. newthinking Mar 2016 #59

That's the part I can't understand. At some point when their compass is spinning around radically GoneFishin Mar 2016 #136

Vote for the Supreme Court DownriverDem Mar 2016 #21

Bernie wants someone to rule against Citizens United.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #42

And you don't mess with a Clinton's paycheck! dchill Mar 2016 #57

Uh huh... gcomeau Mar 2016 #73

I support my candidate DownriverDem Mar 2016 #134

When did poll numbers... gcomeau Mar 2016 #135

You are projecting. I am in favor of uhc without insurance companies. I'm against capital Doctor_J Mar 2016 #82

Massive +1! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #87

I see your massive +1 and Karma13612 Mar 2016 #95

Yay! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #125

To use an old Navy expression to what you posted: Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #165

Good call. H2O Man Mar 2016 #26

I'm actually reading it now. Aerows Mar 2016 #108

Scholastic yet accessible and even entertaining Doctor_J Mar 2016 #113

Once I finish reading Aerows Mar 2016 #114

its hard to be skeptical and not cynical olddots Mar 2016 #7

Dead to me ... Babel_17 Mar 2016 #8

I love this post for all types of reasons. bravenak Mar 2016 #145

I wouldn't blame anyone for not believing it Babel_17 Mar 2016 #146

Recipe threads. bravenak Mar 2016 #147

lol, wow! (nt) Babel_17 Mar 2016 #149

Thanks, bravenak SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #174

Glad you liked it. bravenak Mar 2016 #175

I went through my e-mails and unsub'd to all of DailyKos e-mails. basselope Mar 2016 #9

That'll show him. nt kstewart33 Mar 2016 #14

Well if 1000+ do it, it'll get some attention. Duppers Mar 2016 #33

Its one of the big ways they make their $$$. basselope Mar 2016 #35

Your choice DownriverDem Mar 2016 #27

Yes, my choice.. my vote. basselope Mar 2016 #34

" forward-looking"? Duppers Mar 2016 #37

You are using condescending metaphors such as "take my ball and go home" Maedhros Mar 2016 #156

Actually it's like a parent. You don't reward bad behavior. n/t Loudestlib Mar 2016 #159

Good Thespian2 Mar 2016 #66

I have better and more rewarding things to do than go to Clinton shill websites, like ... Impedimentus Mar 2016 #10

Might Kos be more interested in pursuing a greater cause? kstewart33 Mar 2016 #13

Daily Kos is trying to help you DownriverDem Mar 2016 #31

Me too. nt kstewart33 Mar 2016 #39

538 has been thrown under the bus Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #74

So why have the primary? madfloridian Mar 2016 #80

Huge +1! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #88

Yep! Duppers Mar 2016 #120

Then he's using the stupidest way to do it. jeff47 Mar 2016 #123

Sanders does better against all Republicans than Clinton eridani Mar 2016 #148

Drama. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #15

Voice and opinion suppression! SoapBox Mar 2016 #16

Sorry you feel that way DownriverDem Mar 2016 #18

Your premise "all that matters in November is a Dem win" is wrong and myopic. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #24

Yea right DownriverDem Mar 2016 #36

LOL, the lesson I got from the last 35+ years is the opposite lesson you learned. What I have seen Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #76

Agree completely! n/t marew Mar 2016 #107

How so? kstewart33 Mar 2016 #41

Losing your political compass, just to win one election, spells trouble down the road and paints... Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #72

Exactly. Hell, Kim Davis was a Dem, but she would never get my vote. arcane1 Mar 2016 #77

reality Robbins Mar 2016 #25

Either you are with us or against us - Supreme Court DownriverDem Mar 2016 #43

Because they want it their way or no way. Loki Mar 2016 #47

You know i am really getting tired of people like you Robbins Mar 2016 #54

You must not be reading this board very often Robbins. Loki Mar 2016 #99

i have been here plenty Robbins Mar 2016 #101

Yea right. You all are perfect. Loki Mar 2016 #106

Good luck winning while calling people Robbins Mar 2016 #111

What do you expect from a candidate who has bashed this President and other Democrats Loki Mar 2016 #115

Lol with us or against us is a George W Bush line. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #78

Where will you be when the Republican's pack the court for the next 50 years? Loki Mar 2016 #100

No, I'll be blaming people like you. jeff47 Mar 2016 #124

I won't stay home in the general election. Loki Mar 2016 #127

Yes, I can say the same. jeff47 Mar 2016 #131

You would vote for Cruz or Rubio? Loki Mar 2016 #132

Wow is that a pathetic post. jeff47 Mar 2016 #139

I said I will vote for the nominee, Loki Mar 2016 #140

You're doing an excellent job of outreach jeff47 Mar 2016 #153

BINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #166

I am a Democrat who feels that my party has mismanaged the debates to favor Clinton. Duval Mar 2016 #23

I see we are going to be operating Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #28

Were you paying attention during the last election? Loki Mar 2016 #104

Read the article. criticism is allowed--there riversedge Mar 2016 #29

Yup -- Kos didn't say that at all obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #55

People who leave Kos are free to start their own websites. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #40

They aren't welcome here? Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #52

I suspect that their window of opportunity will be a brief one. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #67

This ^^^^^^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #75

Speaking of the 'purge' I see. blackspade Mar 2016 #116

Amazing. Thanks for the news. bvf Mar 2016 #63

Elizabeth Warren had to silence her social media account. Just sayin' Trust Buster Mar 2016 #44

All because she hasn't given her support to "Dear Leader". Loki Mar 2016 #109

Awwwwwwwww poor hurt feewings. Loki Mar 2016 #46

how rude and condescending dana_b Mar 2016 #94

I guess you guys can dish it out, Loki Mar 2016 #98

Y'all are going to begging for ours TM99 Mar 2016 #130

They aren't stifling free speech LisaM Mar 2016 #129

Kos fancies himself a kingmaker Ellen Forradalom Mar 2016 #51

He really misinterpreted what Kos said. Kaleva Mar 2016 #60

Many shortsighted folks are most concerned about their income first... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #61

Money talks... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #65

If Markos Bullshitsus wants to declare his site an echo chamber thats his business tularetom Mar 2016 #68

Two sentences, one contradicting the other DawgHouse Mar 2016 #69

One can only hope the DU follows and that the The Second Stone Mar 2016 #85

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #89

If you post her record you're not supporting her? lol Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #91

DU needs to follow suit, pronto itsrobert Mar 2016 #96

No point in even voting. SciDude Mar 2016 #122

LOL! MaggieD Mar 2016 #102

While this isn't exactly what Kos said, its certainly how most interpreted it riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #103

I did also! n/t marew Mar 2016 #110

Kos is not ending dissent JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #119

I think KOS sold out to the big $$$ oligarchs and that's exactly why I quit SciDude Mar 2016 #121

Well there's always reddit and jackpineradicals.org Arazi Mar 2016 #126

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Darb Mar 2016 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #137

I have a feeling I'll be leaving alot of places PatrynXX Mar 2016 #138

Markos Moulitsas is not a liberal Dem Socialist 2016 Mar 2016 #141

Wow, just wow. themaguffin Mar 2016 #169

Markos merrily Mar 2016 #151

I Just Quit KOS Too billhicks76 Mar 2016 #154

And Kos is wildeyed Mar 2016 #155

Whatever you do in November houston16revival Mar 2016 #167

under the Bernie bus. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #168

What bullshit. You are being disingenuous & immature themaguffin Mar 2016 #170

Me too! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #172