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Liberal_Stalwart71

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160. Ah, no worries. I understand that this primary season brings on much passion. I wish some of it
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

would rub off on me. I'm not enthusiastic at all.

Well...Donna Edwards running for the Senate (and winning) makes me enthusiastic, but that's about it.

Truth.nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1
12% of Dem voters in SC RobertEarl Feb 2016 #25
Good enough for a nice pile of delegates! Lucinda Feb 2016 #187
8% RobertEarl Feb 2016 #220
I suspect that the numbers are low because they expect her to be our nominee Lucinda Feb 2016 #222
I suspect that the other 92% don't like Hillary. RobertEarl Feb 2016 #223
Nope. We had half the turnout for the 08 primary that we ended up with in the GE Lucinda Feb 2016 #224
and guess who else is not trusted there - the one with less votes than HRC DrDan Feb 2016 #238
Then why didn't they vote for Bernie? obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #242
All we can do is show them who is a better candidate Politicalboi Feb 2016 #2
So what would have worked? Lucky Luciano Feb 2016 #3
If fighting for them and us white working people isn't enough, what do they want? brewens Feb 2016 #13
Maybe you stop talking at them and start listening to them EffieBlack Feb 2016 #24
Hi, I would really like to understand AgerolanAmerican Feb 2016 #32
We'd love to. jeff47 Feb 2016 #56
No, you're not. We in the AA forum are very receptive to honest and respectful dialogue EffieBlack Feb 2016 #59
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I asked a question and 840high Feb 2016 #92
Questions with zero insult or lecture get warnings. jeff47 Feb 2016 #114
Honest and respectful dialogue. As long as it supports Hillary. progressoid Feb 2016 #214
That's my experience. 840high Feb 2016 #84
I'm familiar with the won't take yes for an answer tactic. How about yourself? Where are you brewens Feb 2016 #123
Like Hillary does? Tell that to Ashley Williams. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #139
Wholeheartedly agree... Like she *did*, and he *didn't*, in this vid. JudyM Feb 2016 #144
Great video! Thank you for the link. Petrushka Feb 2016 #175
Bingo MaggieD Feb 2016 #167
“Do you want to hear the facts or do you just want to talk?” arcane1 Feb 2016 #252
So, I'd start with unpacking what "fight" means Recursion Feb 2016 #104
Fighting means, among other things, doing something above and beyond just voting or giving EffieBlack Feb 2016 #137
That may well be what Brewens meant; I don't know Recursion Feb 2016 #143
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He could do those things and they would be good, but that would not be fighting for civil rights EffieBlack Feb 2016 #179
Thank you for calling out democracy in DC!!! Recursion Feb 2016 #237
I think they should go with that bigtree Feb 2016 #4
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No, it's not a matter of opinion. It's just not true EffieBlack Feb 2016 #15
Fine 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #22
Yep. Wholeheartedly agreed. Phlem Feb 2016 #55
Well, alrighty then Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #101
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Casting a vote in Congress is not "fighting" no matter how much you try to so characterize it EffieBlack Feb 2016 #65
Let's end this BS right now Loudestlib Feb 2016 #77
She's spent time with them. She knows them. She knows the conditions. ucrdem Feb 2016 #78
So she has done nothing. n/t Loudestlib Feb 2016 #85
This isn't an answer Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #134
Maybe not so meaningless. We'll see on Tuesday. The lady I paraphrased lives in AL. ucrdem Feb 2016 #165
Ironic, since in 08 she was saying the white vote was important. progressoid Feb 2016 #206
That is NOT true. She has NO time for PoC. senz Feb 2016 #234
What would Hillary do? All in it together Feb 2016 #245
In other words, you can't answer the question EffieBlack Feb 2016 #79
You can't answer mine. Loudestlib Feb 2016 #86
I can answer it but I don't play the deflection game. EffieBlack Feb 2016 #95
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Bernie's record has been posted 840high Feb 2016 #109
Casting a vote is much better than running a race baiting primary campaign against the Chakab Feb 2016 #97
I agree, that is why I wrote an OP about those that would divide us in the service of the wealthy as Dragonfli Feb 2016 #129
It's campaign politics. Extreme anger does not a result from anything that Bernie has GoneFishin Feb 2016 #132
His own website even admits this..check this out.. pkdu Feb 2016 #120
Apart from being one of the very few whites to campaign to try and get Jesse Jackson to be president Kentonio Feb 2016 #230
that required him to go out on a limb? Pharaoh Feb 2016 #135
No, that's not what I mean. Voting no on the Iraq War wasn't going out on a limb EffieBlack Feb 2016 #162
Well tell me Pharaoh Feb 2016 #173
I'm not sure why you think voting one's conscience is "easy." Chef Eric Feb 2016 #176
It's not very difficult when the majority of your constituency agrees with you. EffieBlack Feb 2016 #182
I'm not saying it was a civil rights matter. Chef Eric Feb 2016 #202
Bernie's opposition to the war is not the topic of this thread EffieBlack Feb 2016 #205
But it IS the truth dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #39
^^^ The truth of the 2016 Democratic primary ^^^ senz Feb 2016 #231
Why is this about POC and how to get their support ? kacekwl Feb 2016 #122
Right he SHOULD have been fighting to cut their aid and send them to jail. Vincardog Feb 2016 #6
Do you think every black person is on welfare and lives in the projects? rbrnmw Feb 2016 #23
Seems as if they think so KingFlorez Feb 2016 #30
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Calm down KingFlorez Feb 2016 #43
Yeah, right. That's what we all think. JudyM Feb 2016 #124
The majority would be if we followed policies advocated by one of the candidates. Vincardog Feb 2016 #35
that's just not true and you should consider how rude your comment is rbrnmw Feb 2016 #41
Rude? Please enlighten me so I can improve in the future. Vincardog Feb 2016 #44
No, their candidate would further "reform" welfare so they wouldn't even get that - EOM dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #42
who the hell said black folks want welfare? rbrnmw Feb 2016 #50
Oh right, none of them need it dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #57
I believe Bernie's campaign is tone deaf and some his supporters are rude rbrnmw Feb 2016 #61
Right back atcha. - eom dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #63
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Cool. The Midway Rebel Feb 2016 #74
Bravo! The Midway Rebel Feb 2016 #71
+1 progressoid Feb 2016 #208
No Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #146
Yes, I think they do think that MaggieD Feb 2016 #171
kick rbrnmw Feb 2016 #7
Whether it's 'working' or not, it's still true. People will do with it what they want. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #8
I'd like to hear some of the stories where HILLARY fought for ANY of us.....like EVER. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #12
She pretends to care about black people when it matters. Apparently, that's much more important Chakab Feb 2016 #102
she barely even pretends virtualobserver Feb 2016 #106
You're right about that. Chakab Feb 2016 #113
Nice link, thanks. ornotna Feb 2016 #18
No, it's not true. And you saying it over and over again won't make it true. EffieBlack Feb 2016 #20
Yep 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #27
Actually yes, straight from their own words Arazi Feb 2016 #54
This ^ is the real tragedy. Thank you so much for posting this. n/t 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #69
Yup. The Midway Rebel Feb 2016 #93
What I'm saying is, we differ in our perceptions. My perception is . 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #89
Of course you can speak your truth EffieBlack Feb 2016 #108
I never said "my truth must be your truth". Dont' put words in my mouth. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #119
I didn't say you are doing that. My point is that that is the attitude of many of your fellow EffieBlack Feb 2016 #125
Sorry, but I cannot speak for other Bernie supporters. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #142
Its just that much harder with the full media blackout. It means we have to work 4 times harder to litlbilly Feb 2016 #66
Yep we have to work twice as hard to get half as far SwampG8r Feb 2016 #170
I take issue with your post. NWCorona Feb 2016 #9
People can choose who they want. ananda Feb 2016 #10
You've just proved Effie's point. nt kstewart33 Feb 2016 #40
Not at all, it really is the truth dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #46
K & R, voting is a personal choice. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #11
K & R wysi Feb 2016 #14
K&R! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #16
Kick & recommended. William769 Feb 2016 #17
I Think His History Of Siding With The NRA Done Him In Corey_Baker08 Feb 2016 #19
It is a big problem. Lucinda Feb 2016 #190
That has nothing to do with this issue. senz Feb 2016 #236
I think Black folks already have their minds made up and it doesn't matter what is said or done. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #21
Or you could try considering the possibility that your "truth" isn't true at all EffieBlack Feb 2016 #29
Look, you folks linked a bunch of articles which had a lot of quotes that basically indicated people Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #147
More lectures about how we don't understand what's good for us. EffieBlack Feb 2016 #156
So...just because people are Black I can't disagree with their political choices and think they... Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #169
^^ I guess this was good post :) Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #193
Good post? That post was Autumn Feb 2016 #209
Kind of like white folks eh? redstateblues Feb 2016 #212
Considering Sanders went from 3% to 30%+ you would be incorrect. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #219
Like everyone else, they are nichomachus Feb 2016 #26
Too bad they refuse to let YOU determine for them what's in their best interest EffieBlack Feb 2016 #37
Many people of all races vote against their best interests dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #49
The white republican rednecks in SC would also say Lucky Luciano Feb 2016 #246
You're not "aching for answers" - you're pissed off because black voters have decided to vote EffieBlack Feb 2016 #247
I'm not really that pissed off. I'll be fine either way. Lucky Luciano Feb 2016 #248
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I don't think that was ever a serious attempt by the campaign. morningfog Feb 2016 #28
Thank You rbrnmw Feb 2016 #34
Thank you EffieBlack Feb 2016 #52
How do you think he could address the black community without ignoring the whites? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #192
Campaigns are much more than rallies EffieBlack Feb 2016 #200
Maybe I'm being tonedeaf, but I'm not hearing many answers to my questions passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #215
This ^^^^^^ radical noodle Feb 2016 #226
A refrain that I've heard again and again... Orrex Feb 2016 #88
As a poli-sci student, I am a firm adherent to blaming morningfog Feb 2016 #111
How about the meme that African American voters have done their research Arazi Feb 2016 #33
His record is clear and consistent, they are simply buying a falsely labeled product insteed Dragonfli Feb 2016 #36
great analogy AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #47
why are you not decrying her vicious attack on "the mob" lol nt msongs Feb 2016 #80
In order to reply, you have to make sense, your post's meaning eludes me /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #91
OK. A lot of people are voting for Trump too. And a lot for Cruz. So what? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #45
well Robbins Feb 2016 #48
Try this instead, as it's true: "Bernie's been fighting for you all his life." elleng Feb 2016 #51
Funny how just about the only people who seem to think this are white Bernie supporters-most of whom EffieBlack Feb 2016 #58
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I'm a white Martin O'Malley supporter, elleng Feb 2016 #75
Don't buy it then. SamKnause Feb 2016 #53
When you phrase it like this, I will agree Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #60
Thank you EffieBlack Feb 2016 #72
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Yes, because noticing that someone is appealing almost exclusively to white people is "bringing race EffieBlack Feb 2016 #81
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If a black candidate only appealed to black voters, they would not be taken seriously EffieBlack Feb 2016 #117
When it's being used as a wedge, yes it is NWCorona Feb 2016 #103
Yes and no Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #87
not just misunderstanding, many here flat out said people were lying that they were offended. bettyellen Feb 2016 #225
any suggestions? TheFarseer Feb 2016 #64
Bernie is fighting for everyone not just one group. Everyone! bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #68
Amen. Every working man and woman get's a break no matter what. Phlem Feb 2016 #110
Thanks for the info. jalan48 Feb 2016 #70
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I love you rbrnmw Feb 2016 #107
Much love to you and Effie, too! You guys are true fighters. Don't give up standing for what you Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #116
I won't ever shut this mouth rbrnmw Feb 2016 #126
FFS melman Feb 2016 #128
FFS is right! ;) Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #157
It's not a "claim," it's a FACT. ThePhilosopher04 Feb 2016 #96
"tactic"? basselope Feb 2016 #98
I'm black and malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #99
You shouldn't owe an explanation. And that's the point many of us POC's have been trying to make. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #105
Actually, that's not the point. The issue is that plenty of people like the OP are actually angry Chakab Feb 2016 #140
Who says I'm not angry at HRC? I don't support either candidate. I've said this many times. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #153
My post was an attack on the OP's logic not you directly. Sorry, if it didn't come Chakab Feb 2016 #158
Ah, no worries. I understand that this primary season brings on much passion. I wish some of it Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #160
I'm not enthusiastic about this election at all. I just really don't like the Clintons, and I Chakab Feb 2016 #177
Unfortunately the Party decided who should be the next President, but not everyone ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #148
No one disagrees that votes should be earned. Both candidates have to earn those votes as well. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #151
The structure, like it or not, is about earning delegates and Money to run ads and buy ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #161
I'm voting because of the Supreme Court rbrnmw Feb 2016 #115
L_S is right EffieBlack Feb 2016 #150
Kicked up HIGH!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #100
so why's only one candidate still have to be protested by BLM? MisterP Feb 2016 #118
Actually, BLM did a recent protest at one of her events. Lancero Feb 2016 #130
And her own reaction was both vile and revealing. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #145
"Isn't it time to try a different tactic for attracting the black vote?" Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #121
Screw tactics. Just tell the unvarnished truth about your policies. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #154
I actually agree with all of this, except for your last statement, which is a matter of opinion... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #159
Uh actually they are PatrynXX Feb 2016 #127
And rightly so. They've been sold out. Bubzer Feb 2016 #186
This argument is not working Gothmog Feb 2016 #131
Then don't believe it AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #133
As a Bernie supporter . . . R. P. McMurphy Feb 2016 #136
Thank you! EffieBlack Feb 2016 #152
you pointedly leave something out and that is fear azurnoir Feb 2016 #180
Yep MaggieD Feb 2016 #138
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K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #149
It seems to me that most older folks PoliticalMalcontent Feb 2016 #155
Not all older folks are for Clinton, on the contrary many are tired of for voting for ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #164
What EXACTLY has she done? SoapBox Feb 2016 #163
This thread is not about Hillary. It's about Bernie EffieBlack Feb 2016 #168
Bernie's NAACP rating is 100% for the past 25 years jg10003 Feb 2016 #172
Thats great. But the NAACP only scores whether he voted the way they wanted on particular bills EffieBlack Feb 2016 #185
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I think white Bernie supporters, and I'm one, should just shut up and listen. Beowulf Feb 2016 #178
^^^THIS THIS THIS EffieBlack Feb 2016 #191
You are most welcome! Beowulf Feb 2016 #195
This message was self-deleted by its author jg10003 Feb 2016 #213
He also has less to gain. jg10003 Feb 2016 #216
Yes, you stated it better than I did. Beowulf Feb 2016 #217
Thank you jg10003 Feb 2016 #218
Why are you so bitter? Why are you so angry at Bernie? Nyan Feb 2016 #181
I'm neither bitter nor angry and I've said nothing that should make you think I am EffieBlack Feb 2016 #183
Hmph! Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #198
Okay...whatever that is. Nyan Feb 2016 #199
Why? Because it isn't reaching those in the reddest state in the union? Gimme a break. Bubzer Feb 2016 #184
....and that's sad, considering the alternative especially. Schema Thing Feb 2016 #188
We're living in bizarre times, my fellow progressives. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #189
Let us worry about that. You should worry about your candidate. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #194
Bernie HAS been fighting for all people. democrank Feb 2016 #196
All people should vote their conscience, be it for Bernie, Hillary or Trump. Autumn Feb 2016 #197
My opinion noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #201
"POC aren't buying " dchill Feb 2016 #203
Broad claims in a low turnout are unwise.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #204
Hey, I've got an idea whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #207
AGAIN I will say this...AS A POC yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #210
Effie specifically mentioned the black vote. Why in the world do you think she's "speaking" for you? Number23 Feb 2016 #229
Read the tittle...POC yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #240
It's clear that she's specifically talking about black people. No one has applied the "fighting Number23 Feb 2016 #255
You can lead a horse to water but, you can't make 'em drink. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #211
Sanders has never said that. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #221
Different tactic? HassleCat Feb 2016 #227
I didn't know we had a lot of Black SC voters on DU. nt artislife Feb 2016 #228
Word, Effie! Thank you! Cha Feb 2016 #232
I like Bernie, but his criticism of Hillary's "clinging" to Obama's record was a mistake CreekDog Feb 2016 #233
Great, another post race-baiting for Hillary. n/t That Guy 888 Feb 2016 #235
People doubt a lot of things that are true... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #239
k & r obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #241
Great post Gothmog Feb 2016 #243
It was a slap in the face for a person's life work. Wish someone would share the real reason. Vinca Feb 2016 #244
Whether anyone "buys" it or not, Bernie Sanders has indeed been "fighting for you" all his life ... Martin Eden Feb 2016 #249
Funny thing about truth Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #251
Clinton propaganda has apparently worked. [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2016 #253
One of the reasons why Sanders is not appealing to POC voters is why I am supporting Clinton Gothmog Feb 2016 #254
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