2016 Postmortem

SciDude

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84. The "Superdelegates" are members of the plutocracy.

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:45 PM

Feb 2016

Clinton and her establishment oligarch allies are a formidable force and we never thought it would be easy to bring them down with their billions of corrupt dollars but like all corrupt systems their foundation is weak. Together we can press them and eventually they will fall and the "superdelegates" will have to vote with the people.

Let's hope, otherwise we have to face the next 4-8 years under oligarch rule with either a Clinton or Trump flavor...

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"...If this were any other country, we’d be quick to call this a CORRUPT ELECTION." [View all] RiverLover Feb 2016 OP

Massive K&R..... daleanime Feb 2016 #1

The founding fathers wouldn't recognize this government today newfie11 Feb 2016 #2

This isn't what they had in mind, that's for sure. RiverLover Feb 2016 #5

"He seems easily corruptible" GummyBearz Feb 2016 #38

I'm not sure the founding fathers would be upset. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #11

You're right. They would have been appalled.... Adrahil Feb 2016 #41

If you read the correspondence leading up to the Constitution 1939 Feb 2016 #61

They wouldn't recognize that black people are free or that women could vote either. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #102

We've never had an election where they've made such a difference and, now that we have, Vinca Feb 2016 #3

Very disturbing. Along with us becoming the Party of Wall Street & War, can the poison RiverLover Feb 2016 #4

Well, the superdelegate issue is not very democratic of the Democratic party. Never has been. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #6

So you want to take the voice of the Young Democrats of America? scscholar Feb 2016 #80

Why should an organization have delegates. TM99 Feb 2016 #98

My favorite BS line about why these people get to be superdelegates: beac Feb 2016 #7

Exactly! ybbor Feb 2016 #10

Let's let it all play out ybbor Feb 2016 #8

Thank you. RiverLover Feb 2016 #13

You're right ybbor Feb 2016 #28

This is true sprts Feb 2016 #100

Let's not forget suppression of Sander's message by media - fm Melissa Harris Perry kristopher Feb 2016 #9

Dissension ag corporate rule is muted at MSNBC, again....She's my new hero, btw. RiverLover Feb 2016 #12

I don't see anything in that email about Sanders tularetom Feb 2016 #78

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #14

Super delegates have always been a part of the process, this isn't anything new. lark Feb 2016 #15

Blame the McGovernites 1939 Feb 2016 #67

Super delegates haven't "...always been part of the process...." Petrushka Feb 2016 #111

OK, not forever, but since 1982. lark Feb 2016 #143

It seems that the time to make changes to the rules would be BEFORE the game begins... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #16

Agreed, no one wants to change the rules now ybbor Feb 2016 #29

And her standing firmly with monied interests and war profiteers, Rilesome Feb 2016 #53

Yeah, whatever. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #56

...define gullible Jezza Feb 2016 #64

Whatever consciouslocs Feb 2016 #88

righton. Jezza Feb 2016 #66

The important thing, IMO, is that many (if not most) voters don't know or understand . . . Petrushka Feb 2016 #114

If you had that problem in 08 and now again, don't you think it's time to fix it? Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #17

That situation would definitely lead to a loss GummyBearz Feb 2016 #44

Could we call on UN observers to over see and observe this election why not? INdemo Feb 2016 #18

The UN does not care how political parties pick candidates hack89 Feb 2016 #20

Massive K&R! peacebird Feb 2016 #19

Until Bernie wins enough a delegates for the super delegates to be a factor hack89 Feb 2016 #21

The very existence of Super delegates... gregcrawford Feb 2016 #22

Not really ... not when KPN Feb 2016 #86

Are you serious? gregcrawford Feb 2016 #90

I think the party leaders should get a vote TheFarseer Feb 2016 #23

Sadly - All Too True cantbeserious Feb 2016 #24

Like I've said for a while, some people were going to be Alex Jones fans at the end of this. OhZone Feb 2016 #25

Oh, no-o-o! Didn't think of THAT. My brother & other kin in SC would agree and . . . Petrushka Feb 2016 #121

The Ultimate Insider Represents Insiders Not The 99% Thus..... scottie55 Feb 2016 #26

+1 RiverLover Feb 2016 #30

Well, I have yet to meet a Single fredamae Feb 2016 #27

That's what the "revolution" is. We're trying!! /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #32

The M$M media. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #40

It IS a corrupt election. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #31

Great post! No, we're NOT giving up just yet. /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #34

If voting was legit, they wouldn't let us do it. nt valerief Feb 2016 #33

Damn. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #43

Our corporations and their political lackeys have corrupted every other country. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #35

From your lips.... RiverLover Feb 2016 #93

yep, only a landslide will show they can't do this. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #36

Ugh...DWS has GOT to go. SoapBox Feb 2016 #37

This is the pure evil against which Bernie Sanders is fighting. pangaia Feb 2016 #39

"Wasserman-Schultz’s response was evasive and incoherent." Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #42

The Exposure of the Vast Left-wing Establishment UglyGreed Feb 2016 #45

Excellent essay. RiverLover Feb 2016 #52

The author is spot on UglyGreed Feb 2016 #60

Great article, thanks. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #103

You're welcome UglyGreed Feb 2016 #106

your analysis is on point! Jezza Feb 2016 #55

I did not write it UglyGreed Feb 2016 #58

Lots to think about. Thanks for the link . . . posted to Facebook. Petrushka Feb 2016 #125

Voter turn out Geronimoe Feb 2016 #46

"We separate superdelagates from the voting process so party doesn't interfere with voters." Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #47

So you want to change the rules in the middle of the game dlwickham Feb 2016 #51

If the rule is both undeomcratic and unDemocratic, the time to change isn't as important rhett o rick Feb 2016 #81

So you want to make Trump president Albert Leo Feb 2016 #82

Sanders know what the rules were coming into this dlwickham Feb 2016 #85

+1 Rebkeh Feb 2016 #48

propaganda is effective Jezza Feb 2016 #49

"keep sand in your shoes" ;) RiverLover Feb 2016 #54

Why would Democrats not be biased against a non Democrat? Tommy2Tone Feb 2016 #50

That's what so strange, Hillary has republican principles but called herself a Dem most of her life. RiverLover Feb 2016 #57

Hillary started as Republican Jezza Feb 2016 #62

Hogwash Tommy2Tone Feb 2016 #68

study your history my friend Jezza Feb 2016 #70

I don't need you to school me on history Tommy2Tone Feb 2016 #71

not hogwash, and no intended insult of inteligence Jezza Feb 2016 #76

You need to study harder. She was in High School when she "supported" Goldwater Lucinda Feb 2016 #137

As a life-long Democrat, I do not feel that a candidate who is for war, cluster bombs, djean111 Feb 2016 #59

Hillary will win here in MA Chico Man Feb 2016 #63

it's looks like she has a good shot bigtree Feb 2016 #69

And the corruption doesn't bother you? senz Feb 2016 #83

Hillary is not corrupt Chico Man Feb 2016 #104

No she isn't corrupt at all. Millions from wall street leading up to campaign, set up a f*g PRIVATE RiverLover Feb 2016 #108

Does Bernie tell voters what they want to hear? Chico Man Feb 2016 #115

His words are backed up by his actions. His entire life. RiverLover Feb 2016 #141

What will you say Chico Man Feb 2016 #142

She certainly appears to be. senz Feb 2016 #113

Witch hunting is exhausting Chico Man Feb 2016 #116

Noting highly questionable business dealings of those who aspire senz Feb 2016 #119

Difference between vet Chico Man Feb 2016 #122

Every single one of those articles is factual. senz Feb 2016 #123

They are full of logical fallacies Chico Man Feb 2016 #127

Logical fallacies apply to argumentation, not straight reporting. senz Feb 2016 #132

Concluding Clinton is corrupt is an argument Chico Man Feb 2016 #140

By the way Chico Man Feb 2016 #118

I read this election is going to use up over nine billion dollars? polly7 Feb 2016 #65

"What happened to the PEOPLE?" Exactly!! THE most imp thin we need to do is RiverLover Feb 2016 #72

That's a good article. polly7 Feb 2016 #73

Yours is better!! Wow!! RiverLover Feb 2016 #74

You're welcome, I posted it in Good Reads already if anyone wants to see it. polly7 Feb 2016 #75

+1 Jezza Feb 2016 #77

You can partly thank Tad Devine for SDs. Regardless, if Sanders can win more regular delegates than Metric System Feb 2016 #79

The "Superdelegates" are members of the plutocracy. SciDude Feb 2016 #84

"If Bernie was winning, we'd call this the cleanest election EVAH." ucrdem Feb 2016 #87

Either way the shit's gonna hit the fan after the election. jalan48 Feb 2016 #89

SDs who lobby for private prisons & KXL, for Clinton campaign, & News Corp employee? senz Feb 2016 #91

Kick warrprayer Feb 2016 #92

LOL liberal N proud Feb 2016 #94

This wouldn't happen in any other country for other reasons Spider Jerusalem Feb 2016 #95

Massive K &R and kudos to Lee Fang for the research. snagglepuss Feb 2016 #96

Yes. In another country, it would be called corruption. nt Duval Feb 2016 #97

K&R! AikenYankee Feb 2016 #99

Spoken like a sore loser. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #101

Question: Is there some money being released during the primaries that shouldn't be? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #105

This is now moot BainsBane Feb 2016 #107

I must have missed the fat lady singing. RiverLover Feb 2016 #109

Rigged in that BainsBane Feb 2016 #117

You do understand that there are still a majority of states to still vote Karma13612 Feb 2016 #110

I understand that very well BainsBane Feb 2016 #112

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #120

I will not vote for Hillary in November. I will vote for all other Democrats on my ballot, JDPriestly Feb 2016 #124

Feel better now? still_one Feb 2016 #129

No. I feel very sad for my children, for my grandchildren and for my country. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #130

K N R Faux pas Feb 2016 #126

The Superdelegates are part of that legacy. Goes back to '72 leveymg Feb 2016 #128

K & R --- Thank you for all the research & links. Petrushka Feb 2016 #131

IF this were any other country, we'd have also called our coups d'etat coups d'etat, too, but silvershadow Feb 2016 #133

Superdelegates switch sides Onlooker Feb 2016 #134

Do you have any idea why the DNC is backing Clinton? JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #135

Let me get this straight... KitSileya Feb 2016 #136

Hillary learned to sew up the super delegates from losing to Obama. lexington filly Feb 2016 #138

Absolutely discusted by what the Clinton's have turned this party into. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #139