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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
30. Well after the Clinton's first turn in the White House they successfully turned the party right
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 05:46 PM
Feb 2016

Are you unfamiliar with this? Among other things, they made it very clear that they were on white people's side, that they weren't going to be aggressive on racial issues - and of course they weren't. They committed to mass incarceration of black people and they "reformed" welfare. And they were very successful; giving them and their allies control over the Democratic party. In such a context it's not surprising that Sanders hasn't been able to move the needle very much.

This year is different though; the liberal elements of the party are waking up and challenging the status quo - I gather you think it would be better if Hillary Clinton had been able to run unopposed, given your complete disdain for Sanders and his supporters, but if she sounds like a liberal right now it's only because she's had to face a principled opponent who is arguing for actual left wing policies, instead of the watered down liberalism of the Clintons.

Bryant

This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #1
Not enough wifi hotspots at caucuses bravenak Feb 2016 #2
Lolz! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #54
Zing! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #52
Nope. Don't see that revolution anywhere. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #3
I dont see it but I live in a minority heavy community and polls bear this out tol bravenak Feb 2016 #4
PROTIP: When one number is bigger than another, the result is not called a tie. NuclearDem Feb 2016 #9
This can't be for real. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #38
Damn that math and science crap workinclasszero Feb 2016 #55
It is called Berniemath...the same that is used for his proposals lunamagica Feb 2016 #129
Undoubtedly workinclasszero Feb 2016 #130
I thought it was precious when folks were saying they'd "tied" in Iowa. Now apparently a six point Number23 Feb 2016 #99
If 6 down is a tie 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #113
Exactly! Number23 Feb 2016 #114
Math 101 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #101
Ummm... Agschmid Feb 2016 #128
The ugliest kind of bullshit, intended to kill it in the cradle. cali Feb 2016 #5
WhatEVER CALI bravenak Feb 2016 #10
IF she lucks out and wins, enthusiasm will be a real problem. Then it won't just be all about HRC nc4bo Feb 2016 #20
"Enthusiasm". Bernie might have had a victory in Nevada oasis Feb 2016 #32
It took Reid's thumb on the scale for her to eek out a win. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #39
Reid's influence actually increased Democratic turnout. oasis Feb 2016 #49
Lots of "irregularities" by Camp Weathervane documented on video. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #86
Sour grapes workinclasszero Feb 2016 #57
Chin up little fella: Don't feel bad she lost by 22.5% in New Hampshire. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #88
I don't because workinclasszero Feb 2016 #132
The delegates count is tied at 51 and Sanders is winning the popular vote by a comfortable margin. CentralMass Feb 2016 #6
And we go to the south now in a few days bravenak Feb 2016 #7
So, we will be back to a tie after Super Tuesday. basselope Feb 2016 #42
Whatever, bravenak Feb 2016 #43
Sorry it didn't work out for you. basselope Feb 2016 #51
+1 Go Vols Feb 2016 #66
What didn't work out? ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #105
Giving him a historic win in NH... closing 30 point gaps against the "inevitable" candidate. basselope Feb 2016 #119
Looks like we are stuck with Hillary Clinton el_bryanto Feb 2016 #8
Diversity matters bravenak Feb 2016 #11
The environment matters. The rigged economy matters. People dying in wars of aggression matter. nt el_bryanto Feb 2016 #13
Wont get any traction without a diverse coalition bravenak Feb 2016 #14
Exactly - so we are stuck with Hillary Clinton - who won't make any traction at all el_bryanto Feb 2016 #22
I see no history of her opponent making traction bravenak Feb 2016 #24
Well after the Clinton's first turn in the White House they successfully turned the party right el_bryanto Feb 2016 #30
Her opponent bravenak Feb 2016 #33
Your argument does basically boil down to there's no hope for something better el_bryanto Feb 2016 #48
My point is he's not actually BETTER! bravenak Feb 2016 #56
That's not your argument; or at least not the argument you are making now el_bryanto Feb 2016 #90
Which means she is better at politics bravenak Feb 2016 #91
If that's enough for you - that's enough for you. el_bryanto Feb 2016 #93
It is NECESSARY to beat THEM bravenak Feb 2016 #95
Those pesky facts again workinclasszero Feb 2016 #60
Sorry bravenak Feb 2016 #61
Nope. You will do it again workinclasszero Feb 2016 #65
I just cannot stop bravenak Feb 2016 #68
I have asked you to list the significant legislation pertaining to civil rights ladjf Feb 2016 #94
I already did on jons thread. In my journal bravenak Feb 2016 #96
They don't seem to care. They want a woman to be President and they want it to be Hillary. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #53
Hillary's biggest lead was when she announced her candidacy. panader0 Feb 2016 #12
This is not a Bobby Type revolution he would be in favor of reparations bravenak Feb 2016 #16
Hillary is not in favor of reparations panader0 Feb 2016 #81
Bobby was nothing like bernie he was in favor of reparations bravenak Feb 2016 #82
Bobbie Seale workinclasszero Feb 2016 #62
Did you even read his quote? panader0 Feb 2016 #71
Maybe not. But then Hillary should be coasting to her win - and that's not happening. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #15
Holla at me after SC bravenak Feb 2016 #18
SC is just one state isn't it? 53 delegates? Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #70
Holla at me after Super Tuesday bravenak Feb 2016 #73
It's a date. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #74
Dude really ? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #17
But I need to MEME THIS RIGHT NOW DAD!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #19
Hahaha! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #21
You OLIGARCH!!!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #26
Hey I'm still waiting on my check workinclasszero Feb 2016 #50
My shillbucks never came either bravenak Feb 2016 #59
Da-a-a-amn! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #27
People working multiple jobs to put food on the table grntuscarora Feb 2016 #23
They did not show up bravenak Feb 2016 #29
They will. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #31
When? bravenak Feb 2016 #34
I don't know, but just keep pushing grntuscarora Feb 2016 #47
Oooh! I'll be waiting bravenak Feb 2016 #58
You really are confident in your disdain for struggling people. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #69
I am a struggling people bravenak Feb 2016 #72
Sorry, bravenak. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #78
I Mean I am the poor bravenak Feb 2016 #79
Oh. Well I don't live in keep, castle, or chateau either. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #83
In the general election if you give them a candidate for whom is worth voting. basselope Feb 2016 #63
Nope! Gotta vote in primaries to pick the general candidate bravenak Feb 2016 #64
Nobody HAS TO do anything. basselope Feb 2016 #84
Logic bravenak Feb 2016 #85
False logic. basselope Feb 2016 #89
Yes they do if they wanna help pick the candidate like I said already bravenak Feb 2016 #92
However, that remains a false statement. basselope Feb 2016 #117
I'm sorry bravenak Feb 2016 #118
I'm sorry. basselope Feb 2016 #120
I cannot not look at it bravenak Feb 2016 #121
Sorry your are so easily distracted. basselope Feb 2016 #122
Ok bravenak Feb 2016 #123
And easy to control as well. basselope Feb 2016 #124
How so? bravenak Feb 2016 #127
Like that. basselope Feb 2016 #135
Facts are stubborn things Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #104
Like stains bravenak Feb 2016 #109
Um, the voting thing is kind of a one shot thing. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #46
Bullshit. They "liked" the Sanders facebook page. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #25
Winning in all fifty states!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #28
Unless... it is yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #35
It hasnt bravenak Feb 2016 #36
But Bravenak sure is, as predictable as ever. dinkytron Feb 2016 #37
Yep! Really bringing the Dems together. MelissaB Feb 2016 #40
I am steadfast bravenak Feb 2016 #45
Sanders beat projections in Iowa and New Hampshire, and fought a closer race in Nevada than Obama Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #41
But its a REVOLUTION bravenak Feb 2016 #44
Enjoy your smug. Either Sanders will win the nomination or Rubio will win the presidency and you Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #100
Sounds ominous bravenak Feb 2016 #102
Does it get any more ominous than us nominating a distrusted candidate who would lose to Rubio? Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #125
Rubio cannot win bravenak Feb 2016 #126
Women and PoC will show up because they truly believe there oasis Feb 2016 #67
We suffer most bravenak Feb 2016 #75
Exactly! Perfectly said in a few words. We live in the real world lunamagica Feb 2016 #133
How much energy is the average voter going to invest in an abstract, oasis Feb 2016 #136
Found them... liberal N proud Feb 2016 #76
They must vote online bravenak Feb 2016 #77
This is the "clicky-clicky" brigade (CCB) for those online polls we used to hear so much about. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #97
After they win all fifty states we will be CRUSHED!!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #98
With apps like this who has time to make friends? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #111
Generation Y: Looking for jobs — and an identity Autumn Feb 2016 #137
it is showing up in the national polls virtualobserver Feb 2016 #80
We go state by state district by district bravenak Feb 2016 #87
of course....but if Bernie is at 52% next month and 57% the following month virtualobserver Feb 2016 #107
No ifs bravenak Feb 2016 #112
the revolution is at 42% with no ceiling in sight virtualobserver Feb 2016 #115
If you say so bravenak Feb 2016 #116
Why are the millenials staying home? flamingdem Feb 2016 #103
I have no idea I ask but they always take out their phones bravenak Feb 2016 #106
We need to be able to vote via Twitter! nt flamingdem Feb 2016 #108
YEP bravenak Feb 2016 #110
That's actually a pretty good idea Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #131
their feeling are hurt DrDan Feb 2016 #134
Its still trying to find its unicorns uponit7771 Feb 2016 #138
True bravenak Feb 2016 #139
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