2016 Postmortem

Dems to Win

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281. Elderly icons trying to kill the hopes and dreams of young activists. Astonishing and sad.

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Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:26 PM

Feb 2016

It's insane that the Democratic leadership believes this is the path to victory in the fall.

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The attempted destruction of two US civil rights icons recalls to mind the Cultural Revolution. [View all] Hekate Feb 2016 OP

When icons lie or misrepresent, they deserve to be called out. Merryland Feb 2016 #1

THIS ^ Lying is lying, period. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #3

30 Million People Died in the Cultural Revolution and an untold number more... kristopher Feb 2016 #399

Yes. The lying and smears are not ok, no matter who. TDale313 Feb 2016 #16

exactly Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #30

+1 +1 +1 +1 nt Jarqui Feb 2016 #58

Who, precisely, is LYING? nt MADem Feb 2016 #136

That indeed is the question. Thank you, MADem. Hekate Feb 2016 #143

That much we already know: it's Ms. Huerta. forest444 Feb 2016 #197

You are accusing Dolores Huerta of LYING? Really? Deliberately telling a falsehood? Making shit MADem Feb 2016 #211

Do you not see the difference between kiva Feb 2016 #240

They could have chosen a translator from each side--you're not going to find a "non-partisan" at a MADem Feb 2016 #360

You don't think that the state party kiva Feb 2016 #364

Thank you for that sterling WaPo propaganda piece Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #335

Ah, the WAPO says something you don't like, so it is now a purveyor of propaganda. MADem Feb 2016 #361

The readers are taking their shoddy propaganda Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #367

Guess what? Those readers might want to know it is a violation of Federal Election Law to NOT MADem Feb 2016 #373

And the "lie" was? George II Feb 2016 #219

Yes they do. 840high Feb 2016 #229

Or when they allow themselves to be manipulated. HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #237

They lied and willingly crawled under... MaeScott Feb 2016 #332

Who is doing the detroying? Z_California Feb 2016 #366

YES! YOu don't get a pass just because you were an 'icon' Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #390

Losing proposition to attack our icons bravenak Feb 2016 #2

I expect honesty from everyone tk2kewl Feb 2016 #23

Too bad you'll be dissappointed. bravenak Feb 2016 #34

Indeed, and thus are not above criticism when they fail tk2kewl Feb 2016 #50

But the response needs be PROPORTIONATE bravenak Feb 2016 #51

It's hard to make the case for bullying if the alleged victims use their well eared respect tk2kewl Feb 2016 #85

I follow her on twitter bravenak Feb 2016 #90

I've been on her feed for two days. frylock Feb 2016 #99

Really? Ha! bravenak Feb 2016 #102

Yep. Got those screens yet? frylock Feb 2016 #104

I don't work for you bravenak Feb 2016 #107

Ah, here we go again. Ever the victim. frylock Feb 2016 #111

I need my paycheck first bravenak Feb 2016 #112

So no evidence of bullying then? frylock Feb 2016 #116

Can I get my monies? bravenak Feb 2016 #117

Where are the pretzel monies? frylock Feb 2016 #119

Oh, brother. Marr Feb 2016 #246

Try reading post 211 on this very thread and you might stop spreading the liar story brush Feb 2016 #245

Post #211 shows zero evidence of what I'm discussing here. frylock Feb 2016 #249

"""Please continue telling Dolores Huerta about herself. """ Creo que sí!!!!!!! nt MADem Feb 2016 #132

Esta bien. bravenak Feb 2016 #134

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #204

Bingo bravenak Feb 2016 #205

there may well be a good deal of influence in who gets the Democratic nomination azurnoir Feb 2016 #209

That makes no difference in the primary bravenak Feb 2016 #213

summed up the technique being used yesterday before the Huerta thing even happened azurnoir Feb 2016 #221

He never came to us until after Netroots bravenak Feb 2016 #225

he came to everybody all of us in the 2 months of campaign prior in the ensuing 8 months since azurnoir Feb 2016 #231

Afterhoughts bravenak Feb 2016 #234

so 8 months of campaigning is an after thought azurnoir Feb 2016 #239

You're wasting your time with her. bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #305

Thanks and I know but sometimes just drawing someone out getting them to enlatge on their opinion is azurnoir Feb 2016 #306

Just accept the lies UglyGreed Feb 2016 #191

So why doesn't one of you who has been parroting "lies" actually tell us what some of those "lies".. George II Feb 2016 #217

Well for one Hillary admitted not telling the UglyGreed Feb 2016 #220

Nice deflection - but, have YOU or anyone you know ever NOT "lied"? If you were watching Sanders... George II Feb 2016 #224

No deflection UglyGreed Feb 2016 #241

And yet no specific "lies". George II Feb 2016 #294

Her own words UglyGreed Feb 2016 #341

Still nothing? George II Feb 2016 #342

So the "special place in hell" comment by Albright was not a lie? Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #409

Neither of those are "lies", they're extreme comments and both have apologized. George II Feb 2016 #411

I can think of a lie. okasha Feb 2016 #291

and they lie and need to be called out on it Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #52

But not bullied NOR TRASHED bravenak Feb 2016 #54

Please tell us who, precisely is LYING, and what these awful LIES are. nt MADem Feb 2016 #158

Delores Huerta's tweet claiming Bernie supporters yelled English only at her azurnoir Feb 2016 #235

I invite your attention the WAPO article I have posted above. MADem Feb 2016 #365

YOU don't care about Berine too much. MelissaB Feb 2016 #27

I'll speak HOWEVER I PLEASE bravenak Feb 2016 #31

So will I. MelissaB Feb 2016 #42

Good for you bravenak Feb 2016 #47

I gotta say SheenaR Feb 2016 #150

Very nice thank you. bravenak Feb 2016 #153

icons Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #35

They do not DESERVE THIS bravenak Feb 2016 #49

Anyone who misrepresents, misspeaks or lies doesn't deserve to be called on it? MelissaB Feb 2016 #75

Not bully her!!! Thats what! bravenak Feb 2016 #77

I don't think she has been bullied. Asking for something incorrect to be corrected is not bullying. MelissaB Feb 2016 #80

I follow her on twitter bravenak Feb 2016 #81

She is not being bullied on Twitter. frylock Feb 2016 #101

Like you'd be my judge of what bullying is bravenak Feb 2016 #105

Provide some examples of her being bullied. frylock Feb 2016 #109

I dont work for you bravenak Feb 2016 #110

I don't know you! frylock Feb 2016 #113

My favorite episode bravenak Feb 2016 #115

She hasn't been bullied Don Draper Feb 2016 #210

Bull bravenak Feb 2016 #214

Read post 211 on this thread and you might stop spreading this liar story. brush Feb 2016 #252

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Oh please!! People were yelling bravenak Feb 2016 #310

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So? bravenak Feb 2016 #312

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The reaction was worse than what she did bravenak Feb 2016 #314

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Gotta watch the reactions bravenak Feb 2016 #317

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They see her getting bullied bravenak Feb 2016 #319

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How do you know? bravenak Feb 2016 #321

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In spanish like I do? bravenak Feb 2016 #323

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Cuantos anos? bravenak Feb 2016 #326

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That musta been awesome bravenak Feb 2016 #329

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I wont need anything bravenak Feb 2016 #331

Looks like "Name Removed" lost both the battle AND the war! nt MADem Feb 2016 #362

That is what I call a refreshing outcome Hekate Feb 2016 #369

Darn! We had decided to be buddies' bravenak Feb 2016 #371

Hmmm, Peru. I seem to remember we had a DUer years ago from Peru. MADem Feb 2016 #372

Hey!! My minds eye ALSO saw peruvian dress! bravenak Feb 2016 #374

Yep!!! MADem Feb 2016 #375

Read post 211 on this thread and you might stop spreading this liar story. brush Feb 2016 #250

+10,000 nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #227

"Which side are you on?" isn't just an old labor rights song, is it? Hekate Feb 2016 #62

Amen bravenak Feb 2016 #76

so even if she misheard treestar Feb 2016 #121

Totally a barista bribe, especially if at Starbucks, which everybody knows is a horrible corporation Hekate Feb 2016 #126

I think your icons are the ones that changed sides. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #230

Yes melman Feb 2016 #137

I bet you can since I posted about her yesterday bravenak Feb 2016 #141

I stand with Congressmen John Lewis and James Clyburn Gothmog Feb 2016 #140

Me too bravenak Feb 2016 #145

Make that three Civil Rights and Labor icons in my OP. I lost count. Hekate Feb 2016 #171

Seems if a certain candidate doesn't win, everybody goes under the bus. brush Feb 2016 #255

So do I. okasha Feb 2016 #292

You made that very clear 840high Feb 2016 #232

I care so much what you think bravenak Feb 2016 #233

You'll care in November. 840high Feb 2016 #248

Dishonesty invalidates iconism. Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #4

I see it is not about compassion. riversedge Feb 2016 #8

Hello non sequitur. Matariki Feb 2016 #19

Maybe you don't understand what honesty is. Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #24

Opposing marriage equality for 20 years while shouting 'God' makes any talk of compassion Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #133

if people don't show up it's not a revolution. it's just a failed primary bid nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #22

So much time gets wasted misunderstanding each other. Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #70

You can tell something about a candidate's honesty by the lack of honesty among supporters. Hoyt Feb 2016 #41

I can't judge Hilary's supporters, or Bernie's Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #97

Ain't that the truth. frylock Feb 2016 #103

Didn't Mao say something similar? eom MohRokTah Feb 2016 #123

OMG NO I'm sure it was either Stalin or more likely Hitler Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #274

Smash the Four Olds! History never happened! Hekate Feb 2016 #147

Are you comfortable with trusting those who are Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #276

Read post 211 on this thread and you might stop spreading this liar story. brush Feb 2016 #256

No idea what story you say I'm spreading Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #277

"Destroying" sounds pretty bad. Wilms Feb 2016 #5

Good luck with that. Matariki Feb 2016 #21

I agree that's what the icons did. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #56

The attacks on Huerta are going to cost Sanders dearly. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #6

In what way? Pointing out that she misspoke, which she admits when she makes a statement that it was jillan Feb 2016 #11

Keep lying about 'attacks' Matariki Feb 2016 #28

The absolute assertion that Huerta took bribes from the Clinton Foundation is as attack Hekate Feb 2016 #149

If anyone used the word 'bribe' they are wrong Matariki Feb 2016 #151

Look at how it was received. It's pretty clear a lot of BS supporters believe it was a bribe.... Hekate Feb 2016 #161

Look, I agree with you that there's no good reason to assert it's a 'bribe' Matariki Feb 2016 #193

Damn straight! Like we care for self righteous talk more that our icons! Please... bravenak Feb 2016 #37

SNOPES says nuh uh, nope, no way, FALSE. Just another artful smear ala Hillary. nt mariawr Feb 2016 #177

Attempted destruction? azmom Feb 2016 #7

Yep. A whole mouth full. MelissaB Feb 2016 #32

Read post 211 on this thread and you might stop spreading this liar story. brush Feb 2016 #258

Get a grip. This op is over the top. azmom Feb 2016 #261

In other words, civil rights icons should be given a pass when they misspeak. jillan Feb 2016 #9

they should be corrected, but gutter level claims that they're being paid to geek tragedy Feb 2016 #20

Dolores tweeted out the falsehoods all over twitter. You are so right about this alienating key part jillan Feb 2016 #33

did she bother to delete her Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #60

who fucking cares? Bernie supporters have a lot more important stuff to worry about geek tragedy Feb 2016 #69

Ok. I care. If it isn't walked back it stands as the truth. MelissaB Feb 2016 #78

nobody is going to know exactly what Huerta heard, what she thought she heard, etc. geek tragedy Feb 2016 #84

so she can lie with impunity? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #89

going on the warpath and assuming the very worst about her character geek tragedy Feb 2016 #94

Thank you geek. So far--so many Sanders fans seem to be doubling down on the vile. riversedge Feb 2016 #142

of course she did not say she was confused Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #264

good luck finding anyone outside the Bernie Bubble who has any interest in your geek tragedy Feb 2016 #265

she is not mean Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #267

Read post 211 on this thread and you might stop spreading this liar story. brush Feb 2016 #259

No, but nice try Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #95

Anyone who uses this to disparage one of the most influential women of our lifetimes is an asshole. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #10

Did she have to go on social media and spread falsehoods to characterize ... Armstead Feb 2016 #25

She went on social media and related her experience as she heard and felt it. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #39

To make sanders and campaign look bad and score points. Armstead Feb 2016 #55

I don't buy into that skepticism. She told of her experience. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #67

...and she might have gotten that from some if she hadn't pulled the exact same shit with Obama Chakab Feb 2016 #199

did she delete it when she admitted it was not true? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #65

She experienced what she experienced. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #82

and has been shown as being not true Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #86

The video doesn't prove that she didn't hear what she says she heard. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #92

"attempted destruction''? thomservo Feb 2016 #12

it's a cult of personality that judges all other people by how they relate geek tragedy Feb 2016 #13

+1 bravenak Feb 2016 #40

Geek... Hekate Feb 2016 #44

. George II Feb 2016 #88

... BooScout Feb 2016 #135

it really is and it is the most toxic campaign by anyone on the American left in history stevenleser Feb 2016 #268

his name will be put forward at the convention, which is his right as it was Hillary's in 2016. geek tragedy Feb 2016 #270

Yep. And this is all so unnecessary. Sanders should have taken his supporters to task long ago. stevenleser Feb 2016 #286

+1 bravenak Feb 2016 #296

Well said DesertRat Feb 2016 #343

very well said! brer cat Feb 2016 #351

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Feb 2016 #358

You might be right but I like the chances if a real leader of a candidate laid down the law early stevenleser Feb 2016 #377

It really has become toxic. And like you said, if he'd addressed half of this crap back in MAY when Number23 Feb 2016 #300

That's complete bullshit Bradical79 Feb 2016 #338

+1,000,000. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #346

Take it up with Bernie. He has acknowledged these issues twice now. stevenleser Feb 2016 #376

Sorry geek. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #287

Even to the point where people who love to race around DU "reminding" everyone that they are Number23 Feb 2016 #298

Just wait until they get blown out in South Carolina because of black voters. geek tragedy Feb 2016 #299

Geek, we've been bracing for that for months. We already had some mouth breather come into Number23 Feb 2016 #301

Regular poster or MIRT bait troll? nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #302

MIRT nuked him/her five minutes after they posted that garbage Number23 Feb 2016 #303

hard to say with drive by trolls what their real agenda is geek tragedy Feb 2016 #304

Uh, Hispanic people are not a homogenous group that thinks in lockstep. Marr Feb 2016 #355

I thought you'd left? Or maybe that was just my wishful thinking Number23 Feb 2016 #380

I thought the reason for my response would have been obvious to anyone. Marr Feb 2016 #382

You don't need to respond to me about ANYTHING. And a white person telling a black person Number23 Feb 2016 #383

Blah, blah, blah. Marr Feb 2016 #386

If all I do is scream and insult then why do I have to ask you every damn calendar year to Number23 Feb 2016 #394

Because I feel like it. Marr Feb 2016 #397

I'm making sure that I copy this shit down Number23 Feb 2016 #398

Yes, yes, I've heard that from you before, directed towards at least five different people. Marr Feb 2016 #400

Five people out of the thousands that post here and you think that *I* am the one with the problem?? Number23 Feb 2016 #403

Heh ..... polly7 Feb 2016 #385

Hey, hope you're doing well. Marr Feb 2016 #387

Very well, thank you! polly7 Feb 2016 #389

I am good, thanks. :D Marr Feb 2016 #391

Omg Marr ........ how horrible. I am so, so sorry. polly7 Feb 2016 #392

Thank you. It's much appreciated. Marr Feb 2016 #393

Absolutely! brer cat Feb 2016 #352

Talk about projection. HRC supporters right here in this thread are saying Marr Feb 2016 #353

Oh Bullshit - we will NOT allow our candidate to be smeared by falsehoods. Matariki Feb 2016 #14

Of course, past deeds give some people a license to lie. Broward Feb 2016 #15

I wish I could type my honest response to your post Armstead Feb 2016 #17

Be my guest. Someone else sure did. Hekate Feb 2016 #173

I'd rather not risk a hide Armstead Feb 2016 #262

Oh thank you. You so beautifully made my point for me. madfloridian Feb 2016 #18

Amen! MelissaB Feb 2016 #36

^^ +1,000!!! ^^ mak3cats Feb 2016 #46

madf ftw AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #129

The truth matters not to the people doing this ornotna Feb 2016 #195

If we have no respect for those upon whose shoulders we climbed to get here.... CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #26

+1 bravenak Feb 2016 #43

Standing on the shoulders of giants ... Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #368

So now Bernie Sanders is Chairman Mao? malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #29

and it's fucking revolting. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #396

Snopes should fire whoever did the work on their "verification." Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #38

It looked pink anyways bravenak Feb 2016 #45

I agree. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #59

It looked stupid bravenak Feb 2016 #61

Don't forget the actual video, and Huerta herself walking back her accusation... (eom) mak3cats Feb 2016 #57

Huerta did no such thing, she made the same statement to WaPo. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #66

This walking back claim has been made a lot treestar Feb 2016 #74

That same nurse, Erin Cruz, tweeted that same talking point Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #83

And, Twitter, a paragon of truth that site is. joshcryer Feb 2016 #63

I'm kind of shocked by that. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #71

How convenient.. Kentonio Feb 2016 #212

They did no due diligence. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #223

There is video footage of the event for Christs sake! Kentonio Feb 2016 #236

I watched the footage, and I believe Huerta. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #238

What are you talking about?! Kentonio Feb 2016 #243

Speak for yourself. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #247

None of which changes a single thing about the claim in question. Kentonio Feb 2016 #251

Bye. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #253

Clearly you didn't Bradical79 Feb 2016 #339

Omfg, the drama. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #340

Oh, quit the bullshit Bradical79 Feb 2016 #345

Whine more. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #347

Lol, sure -nt Bradical79 Feb 2016 #348

I saw the video too, and it fully supports Huerta. yardwork Feb 2016 #336

That is not the same as the crowd 'chanting English only'. Kentonio Feb 2016 #350

Actually, what happened was worse. The crowd shut down translation. yardwork Feb 2016 #379

The crowd did not shut down translation Kentonio Feb 2016 #381

Go right on shouting all that - it's losing Sanders the nomination. yardwork Feb 2016 #384

We'll see. I just want a little fairness around here. Kentonio Feb 2016 #388

+1 treestar Feb 2016 #72

I'll be vetting their claims from now on too. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #79

The video was apparently provided by Sarandon okasha Feb 2016 #295

Wow, they've really gone downhill. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #308

pointing out false and misleading statements Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #48

Nor is Sanders a god. Koinos Feb 2016 #165

Very true and I disagree Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #202

Actually, I am a firm believer that evolution is a good thing. Koinos Feb 2016 #284

oh, I agree Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #285

Growth versus Superficial Change Koinos Feb 2016 #289

Nonsense matt819 Feb 2016 #53

Ralph Nader was an icon who saved many people's lives through his activism on regulation practices.. cascadiance Feb 2016 #157

Good post. Kentonio Feb 2016 #218

Let me reiterate my appreciation to you for making my point so very well. madfloridian Feb 2016 #64

Bernie thinks economics are more important treestar Feb 2016 #68

That's Bernie's fans for you. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #174

Civil rights icons shouldn't be 'sacred'. Kentonio Feb 2016 #222

Time will tell what price will be to pay FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #73

In the end, I think the price will be very high. It's as if the Long March did not exist... Hekate Feb 2016 #152

This ... BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #198

I'm sorry, but being an "icon" doesn't give you a free pass for the rest of your life. DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #87

Sure our icons get punched all the time,... CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #108

I am not a redneck, I am not a racist and I am not a Republican DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #125

It was probably a true statement. CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #279

Well, it was certainly eye opening to see Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #91

To bern down the entire system ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #179

That's my take-away from his supporters here. ... Hekate Feb 2016 #370

And this folks is classic red baiting nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #93

You think so? I think not. Hekate Feb 2016 #154

Yup I do nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #156

Yes, it was a reference to Chair Mao. malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #163

I know, I wanted to be nice nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #164

Which Side Are You On? Hekate Feb 2016 #96

Oh, that's just rich! Beowulf Feb 2016 #167

That was for Dolores Huerta, specifically. Here's a Campesino song for her... Hekate Feb 2016 #180

OK Beowulf Feb 2016 #208

cough*bullshit*cough frylock Feb 2016 #98

Moral certainty can be a good or bad thing... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #100

Here's the thing. One may be an icon but when one decides to campaign for a politician Autumn Feb 2016 #106

Agreed no one is above criticism malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #114

omg :O Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #118

*snort* farleftlib Feb 2016 #120

BRILLIANT ANALOGY! MohRokTah Feb 2016 #122

The heroes of the 'revolution' are now.... Spazito Feb 2016 #124

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #127

DU rec. The bile directed toward Dolores Huerta has been awful... SidDithers Feb 2016 #128

And the irony isn't lost, given the big picture, either, is it? nt MADem Feb 2016 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #131

Drama? I clutch at my pearls and seek my fainting couch! Hekate Feb 2016 #139

Are you serious? You're first, insulting a DUer with the "drama" charge, and secondly, you're MADem Feb 2016 #144

You were alerted on for this JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #168

I voted ablamj Feb 2016 #169

Thank you very much. I appreciate that. nt MADem Feb 2016 #203

The alert should have been on the individual spamming the board with the same post. MADem Feb 2016 #200

I'm just glad it stayed JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #216

Well said. nt Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #189

Nothing gets to be both sacred and political, not your religion and not your heroes. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #138

This is hilarious. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #146

Kick and Rec. zappaman Feb 2016 #148

Oh, gee. That's a little far! They are being called on the carpet for fibbing. Leave it at that. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #155

Responding to every post with the words "she lied" isn't quite that, is it? Hekate Feb 2016 #170

Look--someone took a cheap shot at you...in a protected group, no less!! MADem Feb 2016 #159

No sense of history or proportion. When I refer to the Long March in context of US Civil Rights.... Hekate Feb 2016 #166

Most people with a good or even fair grasp of world history got it. MADem Feb 2016 #207

Grasp of history malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #273

I admit that is my post malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #272

How is that a cheap shot? malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #271

Jesus Fucking Christ. tabasco Feb 2016 #160

I'm just happy monicaangela Feb 2016 #162

"Maybe they will think twice before speaking in the future." That sounds like an injunction... Hekate Feb 2016 #182

Don't you think you're getting a bit monicaangela Feb 2016 #192

you sound like a drama queen with that headline litlbilly Feb 2016 #172

I already addressed that issue. However, I would hope I sound like someone who studied History. Hekate Feb 2016 #184

You don't sound like you studied history very well Kentonio Feb 2016 #228

Regarding your note to the Jury A Little Weird Feb 2016 #175

See my post #166 Hekate Feb 2016 #181

Cultural Revolution A Little Weird Feb 2016 #187

The list of people I no longer respect is growing nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #359

Apparently even revered icons have their price. I used to be young once too. mariawr Feb 2016 #176

Boo hoo. Bernistas are making the coronation so messy! Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #178

Wow. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #183

This cuts to the core of one of our problems in education. noamnety Feb 2016 #185

Excellent post. Chakab Feb 2016 #201

Yes, absolutely. Heroes are human, too. nt californiabernin Feb 2016 #257

Dear God, you people are pathetic. Chakab Feb 2016 #186

Oh, the drama. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #188

Just no end to the bullshit accusations, is there? merrily Feb 2016 #190

So are W.E.B. Du Bois and Nelson Mandela also above criticism? shawn703 Feb 2016 #194

K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #196

K&R sheshe2 Feb 2016 #206

Right LittleBlue Feb 2016 #215

K&R TexasTowelie Feb 2016 #226

LOL. Except the Old world has ALL the power, ALL the money, ALL of corporate media, and mhatrw Feb 2016 #242

So what you're saying is that if we go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #244

They both misspoke. Nobody is trying to destroy them. californiabernin Feb 2016 #254

Too long within the Clinton Reality Distortion Field Karmadillo Feb 2016 #260

indeed. geek tragedy Feb 2016 #266

Interesting point. When does "progress" actually become reactionary? McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #263

I see a lot of comments and analysis that are terrifying alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #269

you wouldn't recognize a CULTURAL REVOLUTION if it bit you. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #275

Cultural Revolution?! Seriously? blackspade Feb 2016 #278

One more time... I DON'T CARE IF YOU FIND A CURE FOR AIDS... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #280

Elderly icons trying to kill the hopes and dreams of young activists. Astonishing and sad. Dems to Win Feb 2016 #281

It is sad. And shows those people they're trying to kill the hopes and dreams of polly7 Feb 2016 #344

"the white hairs of age garner no respect," Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #282

Are you implying that having a specfic selection of their words questioned Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #283

Here's to John Lewis and Delores Huerta who will forever be in our Hearts! Cha Feb 2016 #288

They did it themselves. Fearless Feb 2016 #290

The Gang of Four were the leaders of the Cultural Revolution dimple Feb 2016 #293

Kick and Recommended - for the hyperbole lulz n/t That Guy 888 Feb 2016 #297

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #307

Fake phony outrage melman Feb 2016 #316

Socio-psychological observations, actually. But thanks for the kick to the thread. Hekate Feb 2016 #378

They can attack anyone they want, it still won't make a bit of difference. Beacool Feb 2016 #325

Drifting people is a sickness that runs deep in humans. cali Feb 2016 #327

I will remember this if Hillary Clinton the primary malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #333

That's who they are. polly7 Feb 2016 #354

It's sickening. yardwork Feb 2016 #334

What icons? Cesar Chavez? Rosa Parks? Which icons are you vaguing about? Bucky Feb 2016 #337

And another K&R NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #349

When ritual arises the Tao is absent. Lao Tzu Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #356

The candidate who just joined the party has the right thinking The Second Stone Feb 2016 #357

Civil rights icons that back the Establishment are gonna get called out. Orsino Feb 2016 #363

You're confused. The two ICONS lied in an attempted destruction of Bernie's candidacy. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #395

Actually, they did not. Hekate Feb 2016 #405

Yes, I'm a stickler for the truth. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #408

So, like Hillary, they're untouchable... dchill Feb 2016 #401

your support for their dishonesty while amusing stupidicus Feb 2016 #402

Huerta, Lewis, and Clyburn are not dishonest and they did not lie. Hekate Feb 2016 #406

talk about a way over the top OP rurallib Feb 2016 #404

They didn't lie. Lotta people got their knickers in a twist, but they did not lie. Hekate Feb 2016 #407

So, liberalism has been reduced to a cult of personality? nsd Feb 2016 #410

So, "liberals" have joined the GOP in having no sense of history before their own lifetimes? Hekate Feb 2016 #412