2016 Postmortem

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134. You seem like a smart guy

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:32 AM

Feb 2016

How can you possibly think calling Huerta a liar over an apparent misunderstanding is helping Sanders to attract Latino voters, the second largest voting demographic, and who he will need going forward.

Many will resent this. You can already see this in some of the posts here.

Not Smart.

Take the high road and leave this alone as the Nevada caucus is over.

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Snopes got the video. They were shouting out "neutral". [View all] madfloridian Feb 2016 OP

Dolores Huerta lying her ass off Depaysement Feb 2016 #1

Sadly, this Latina is seeing her people artislife Feb 2016 #29

Thanks for saying that Depaysement Feb 2016 #33

you can't ruin your own integrity without consent. She owns this herself roguevalley Feb 2016 #87

Oh well that did not stick UglyGreed Feb 2016 #2

Problem is, it will stick Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #47

Snopes has debunked it and I put the link on LiberalElite Feb 2016 #64

It is heartening that Snopes shows up at the top of a news Google. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #164

well it would have stuck if it lasted beyond the night but it didn't and now Clinton camp has yet a PatrynXX Feb 2016 #84

seems to be the case Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #3

Uh oh, I've seen the bots rely on Snopes whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #4

what are bots? one_voice Feb 2016 #22

Hilbots of course whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #24

of course. one_voice Feb 2016 #27

Please no more name calling passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #49

No kidding! It's a cesspool all around this place...... kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2016 #60

As Thom Hartmann said.... Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #97

Huerta Lied And Here is WHY... Pg 34! Read It and Weep $100k To Her Group From Clintons 2010! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #121

It really irritates me when people incorrectly say Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #125

I guess you don't care that Bernie has asked his supporters to not be nasty passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #126

so in 2010, Clinton knew she would be in a tight Nevada caucus election? 6chars Feb 2016 #153

I have longed admired Dolores. It is a shame she lied. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #5

What did she say? Any translators here? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #52

Huerta posted this on her twitter page: Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #79

....... madfloridian Feb 2016 #89

Do I need to be logged in to twitter to see the replies or newthinking Feb 2016 #144

Boom! ebayfool Feb 2016 #6

Yeah BOOM indeed - waiting for Hillary to denounce the LIE - she will do that,right? LiberalElite Feb 2016 #12

Are you kidding? artislife Feb 2016 #30

I didn't think I needed to add the sarcasm thingy nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #65

You didn't artislife Feb 2016 #90

Oh. - LiberalElite Feb 2016 #91

Don't be too hard on yourself artislife Feb 2016 #92

Thanks - I LiberalElite Feb 2016 #93

It has been a hard day artislife Feb 2016 #94

Nah. going to bed - (I keep thinking that - LiberalElite Feb 2016 #95

what a tangled web we weave farleftlib Feb 2016 #7

+1 Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #83

If this is all there is, what's up with the relentless BS coming from Hillary Broward Feb 2016 #8

The BS from them has been relentless for months eom LiberalElite Feb 2016 #13

It's straight-up trolling. frylock Feb 2016 #17

Absolutely. I would not trust her. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #9

Come on. Like Hillary was there. brush Feb 2016 #25

Hillary approves of all lies. 840high Feb 2016 #100

You must know that's over the top. brush Feb 2016 #110

She's a person - not God. 840high Feb 2016 #113

Nobody said she was a god brush Feb 2016 #115

Watching the video I don't see a misunderstanding, she tweeted Autumn Feb 2016 #119

There was nothing Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #120

A big difference between a misunderstanding and a lie. There were no Autumn Feb 2016 #124

I also read that someone did say "English only", one of the officials. She perhaps misunderstood . . brush Feb 2016 #123

Nice try. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #128

Meaning what? brush Feb 2016 #130

Trying to deflect from what is going on here. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #132

You seem like a smart guy brush Feb 2016 #134

I will leave it alone when I see her correct her statement in her tweet passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #139

Like I said, you seem like a smart guy . . . brush Feb 2016 #140

Oh, so now you are going there...agism? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #141

Just sayin', and many high profile people don't do their own tweets brush Feb 2016 #143

I just wanna see how many more excuses you can come up with. eom passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #145

Excuses? I'm not the one costing votes for my candidate. brush Feb 2016 #147

She didn't misunderstand, her tweet was very clear. Video shows what she tweeted Autumn Feb 2016 #135

Here you go. brush Feb 2016 #155

I'm sorry, you get no retraction from me. Watch the video. Autumn Feb 2016 #156

Are you clairvoyent? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #133

How can you know it wasn't? brush Feb 2016 #136

Because she has already retracted her statement and she herself said passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #138

I didn't say it's been reported that someone else said "English only". brush Feb 2016 #142

Here's the video with the "English only" phrase. brush Feb 2016 #149

misunderstanding? lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #154

There seems to be a distinction in values: AKA belief in what Machievelli called newthinking Feb 2016 #146

I didn't hear "English only" either nt Jarqui Feb 2016 #10

That is why I am thinking this clip is truncated. It's a shame, because you can hear better than bettyellen Feb 2016 #117

Huerta has already admitted it was not a Sander's supporter passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #129

Hillary must DENOUNCE this attack! Karmadillo Feb 2016 #11

Hillary and Her Supporters Need to Knock It Off! Chasstev365 Feb 2016 #14

Oops White House Defends Sanders liberal from boston Feb 2016 #43

They are saying Neutral. Dolores Huerta, regardless azmom Feb 2016 #15

Yes, it was obviously "neutral" they were saying. madfloridian Feb 2016 #20

Nevada Caucus liberal from boston Feb 2016 #39

Clinton's campaign is really getting dirty. Matariki Feb 2016 #16

You got that Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #88

It will get dirtier. Anything to get 840high Feb 2016 #103

Here is the Snopes link LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #18

It's trickle-down lying. No way I could ever vote for her. PonyUp Feb 2016 #19

I like that sign! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #80

Imagine her lying this much 840high Feb 2016 #106

I think there needs to be more explanation from those involved. madfloridian Feb 2016 #21

What is going to happen when people come to rightly assume that most social justice movements... Odin2005 Feb 2016 #23

About reached my limit of name-calling toward Bernie's supporters. madfloridian Feb 2016 #28

I agree. I've had enough too passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #56

I don't call names, I never have. madfloridian Feb 2016 #61

Insults are all they have. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #82

Every time a lie is disproved - I make 840high Feb 2016 #108

That makes more sense- the idea that the MORE LEFT supporters are racist is counterintuitive left lowrider Feb 2016 #26

you mean the people who rail against "identity politics" and the "wedge issues"? bettyellen Feb 2016 #118

Do any Hillary supporters want to explain this smear? Hmm? n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #31

They won't. Kall Feb 2016 #48

Like I said before, she heard what she wanted to hear. mountain grammy Feb 2016 #32

"Unproven" does not make her claim (and others attending) false. bigtree Feb 2016 #34

Would "False" be better? ---> Petrushka Feb 2016 #53

She completely changed her story Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #54

LIsten to the video passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #58

SNOPES SAYS FALSE! Self Delete! nt Logical Feb 2016 #68

If you believe her, please provide a video or sound that proves that she is right. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #72

Yes. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #151

I'm not good with some of these websites so I could not find it, but here in Southern JDPriestly Feb 2016 #165

I don't believe her. 840high Feb 2016 #109

Exactly. Particularly since there is video evidence that corroborates Huerta. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #152

Two words clearly, Neutro and Neutral nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #35

Jesus Christ... just like Rep. Lewis. Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.. AzDar Feb 2016 #36

How can you tell anything from such a short clip? stopbush Feb 2016 #37

there are dozens and dozens of videos waiting for the public tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #38

Well you know Bernie did win the Latino vote in NV - so something has to be done Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #40

All part of a Pattern Chasstev365 Feb 2016 #41

..+1 840high Feb 2016 #111

Can't let the truth get in the way. Now CUT IT OUT! nt PonyUp Feb 2016 #42

They shouted 'neutral'..... Segami Feb 2016 #44

It's out there all over Milliesmom Feb 2016 #45

Where Are the Hillary Supporters Now? Chasstev365 Feb 2016 #46

Huerta translated "neutral" to "English only" jfern Feb 2016 #50

Oh, so THAT's how she'll cover her ass. Sure. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #51

How does this prove it wasn't said? gwheezie Feb 2016 #55

Huerta herself is backtracking and now Snopes rates it false Arazi Feb 2016 #57

I am looking for the backtrack but cannot find it nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #74

It's on Snopes Arazi Feb 2016 #75

thanks, into my files it goes nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #76

Yep, she's now clearly saying they only shouted "no no no" Arazi Feb 2016 #77

I heard both neutro and neutral nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #78

Wait, so now they can make up stuff and we must prove it to be false?? madfloridian Feb 2016 #66

I keep trying to stay positive about both sides renate Feb 2016 #59

I am tired of the pitting of races against each other. madfloridian Feb 2016 #62

I have--Chicago early 2015 ... MisterP Feb 2016 #102

I'm becoming very LiberalElite Feb 2016 #67

It's been less than a week since we had to battle Capehart's lies. madfloridian Feb 2016 #63

. Hissyspit Feb 2016 #69

Thank you madflorian Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #70

Don't think I've ever been so discouraged from voting LittleBlue Feb 2016 #71

Alas that is the objective nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #73

Please vote Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #116

That video is only 22 seconds long. Hardly definitive of all that went on. nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #81

Did you see the long one by Susan Sarandon? madfloridian Feb 2016 #85

Have you seen this video? SunSeeker Feb 2016 #150

Sarandon wasn't exactly a neutral or objective observer. Obviously she had a "mission".... George II Feb 2016 #166

good that it came out nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #86

The caucus was several hours - this video is TWENTY TWO SECONDS! George II Feb 2016 #96

Susan Sarandon recorded the whole caucus. madfloridian Feb 2016 #99

OH, I see....well in that case.............oh never mind. George II Feb 2016 #101

I saw it posted here somewhere. madfloridian Feb 2016 #105

Here Paulie Feb 2016 #114

The episode in question begins around 53:30 Mike__M Feb 2016 #131

I wonder if our DU 840high Feb 2016 #98

They really want us to leave the Party. plus5mace Feb 2016 #104

Yes, they do. They want us to leave them to their "bipartisanship". madfloridian Feb 2016 #107

They may well get their wish. tHIS 840high Feb 2016 #112

I am going Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #122

"Chanting"? gordyfl Feb 2016 #127

Did she get $100,000 for the Clinton Foundation SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #137

I heard them call out "neutral." These are NICE people. Someone lied about them. senz Feb 2016 #148

+1 BeanMusical Feb 2016 #158

K&R Myrina Feb 2016 #157

Moveon.org has denounced the behavior of the Sanders supporters. George II Feb 2016 #159

Move on's quote at that link. madfloridian Feb 2016 #161

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalux Feb 2016 #163

Kick! FloriTexan Feb 2016 #160

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #162