2016 Postmortem

dreamnightwind

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11. Such attributes must be in service of a greater wisdom

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:51 AM

Feb 2016

Intelligence, being articulate, and command of the issues can be found on different sides of the same issues. I think Hillary has all of those attributes, in spades.

Intelligent articulate people should have their grounding and motivations carefully evaluated. They are able to convince people of anything.

Is there any correlation between intelligence and wisdom? I'm pretty cynical about that. I've seen so many brilliant minds use their intelligence to convince people of things that should not be believed. I have a profound distrust of intelligent people who are persuasive and have highly developed communication skills.

Buyer beware.

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Have you ever had a discussion with a smart person that really had command of the subject matter? [View all] Skwmom Feb 2016 OP

As a Sanders supporter... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #1

Thank you Empowerer Feb 2016 #4

Thank you both. Notably, in both IA and NH large majorities of Hortensis Feb 2016 #48

It is scripted and based on information fed to her from other people. Skwmom Feb 2016 #5

You Don't Have to Memorize What You Have Personally Experienced Stallion Feb 2016 #13

Well, health care reform didn't get anywhere in the 1990s Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #34

I thought the part of the OP claiming well groomed people are less intelligent was scripted- and bettyellen Feb 2016 #49

According to Ray Swarez's interview with a few experts in what black voters respond to... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #60

Agreed. My beef with Hillary is not her intelligence, it's her way she wants to accomplish her goals Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #6

Yeah...she's a big time panderer, no doubt about it. TCJ70 Feb 2016 #7

yes, exactly as I see it. she wants to get power and have people answer to her, help people JudyM Feb 2016 #8

She does nothing but talk around things. No substance no specifics. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #2

Yes... deathrind Feb 2016 #3

I hate to say it kcjohn1 Feb 2016 #9

They think she is smart because they are constantly told that. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #12

Bernie described her as "intelligent" when asked for one word to describe Hillary. Never seen a bettyellen Feb 2016 #50

"she is what a person who doesn't have command of the issues thinks smart people sound like" snagglepuss Feb 2016 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #10

Such attributes must be in service of a greater wisdom dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #11

Just because you can string together words does not make you brilliant. Manipulative people can Skwmom Feb 2016 #21

Hmm, I see it differently dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #26

" Intelligent articulate people should have their grounding and motivations carefully evaluated. Dragonfli Feb 2016 #22

Why kill people dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #27

Scripted? Lol! Hilary is a pro. She knows what she is doing. fun n serious Feb 2016 #14

Yes, taking you for a ride! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #24

Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. Renew Deal Feb 2016 #15

I'm one of those who form my own opinion no matter how many times an idea is Skwmom Feb 2016 #17

I understand that. Renew Deal Feb 2016 #18

Because she can regurgitate what her staff has put together for her? Skwmom Feb 2016 #25

No, because she knows it. Renew Deal Feb 2016 #31

Well maybe she's good at getting into the detail but as far as stepping back. looking at the Skwmom Feb 2016 #33

You make that clear beyond any possible doubt, Skw. Hortensis Feb 2016 #51

No Kidding DarthDem Feb 2016 #29

Yes, but why do you hate Obama? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #16

Did I mention Obama? I'm talking about Clinton. Why would I hate Obama? n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #19

I thought the :sarcasm: tag was self evident. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #20

Sorry. After I posted, I did wonder if you were being sarcastic. nt Skwmom Feb 2016 #23

Hillary probably has a stylist who selects all of the clothes she wears for high profile appearances LonePirate Feb 2016 #28

Not a fan of the Clintons but they're both super-smart BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #30

George Bush went to Harvard. She flunked the DC Bar. Skwmom Feb 2016 #32

Face Palm Stallion Feb 2016 #35

No n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #38

Lol. She only got in by affirmative action. Hortensis Feb 2016 #53

This is the most amusing comment I read tonight. Beacool Feb 2016 #37

Well a policy wonk that can remember arcane details does not a brilliant person make. It is a Skwmom Feb 2016 #39

Hillary is often the smartest person in any room. Beacool Feb 2016 #41

With the state of our government, pardon me but I'm not impressed. Well prepped people Skwmom Feb 2016 #42

Forget it, this discussion is going nowhere. Beacool Feb 2016 #43

Is somebody who was a National Honor Society member and a Merit Scholarship finalist DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #55

Exactly. It is so transparent too. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #40

If I did, I probably didn't understand them. JoeyT Feb 2016 #44

I disagree with you about the hair-and-dress thing. Jim Lane Feb 2016 #45

Hillary was famous for having no patience Hortensis Feb 2016 #62

What what what???? cali Feb 2016 #46

She was a National Honor Society member and a Merit Scholarship Finalist. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #47

This. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #59

I wish I could have got into Yale Law School... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #61

Have you noticed Sanders recent tailored suits and slicked down hair? He's sold out. Hoyt Feb 2016 #52

Tailored, my ass. winter is coming Feb 2016 #66

She is not a visionary rather she is good on minutiae and details. That is why, at one time, Hiraeth Feb 2016 #54

Don't be ridiculous. Hillary has a fine command of the issues cyberswede Feb 2016 #56

Agreed. She was amazing in those hearings. Plus, as is mentioned above, she's an incredibly PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #58

This OP is a sad way to advocate for a candidate. Justice Feb 2016 #57

I did not get that when I talked to her liberal N proud Feb 2016 #63

National Merit, Wellesley, Yale Law speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #64

You guys have gone absolutely around the bend. Squinch Feb 2016 #65