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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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86. I've said that. She'll prove she can work across the isle by compromising
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

And by compromising, I mean giving the Rs what they want: an end to welfare as we know it, the end of Glass-Stegal, NAFTA, TPP, the bailout of banksters and Wall Street, disenfranchising black men with crime law (based on all of above, I'm still at a loss as to why blacks are solidly behind Clinton).

That's pretty easy to say.

Bernie, on the other hand, won't do any of that Third Way bullshit.

But this only matters to Progressives. Third Wayers couldn't be happier with more of the same capitulating Democrats.

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Which PROGRESSIVE policies can Hillary get through congress that Bernie can't? Specifically. arcane1 Feb 2016 #1
I am asking about Bernie's Plan B FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #3
We are going to the polls and vote out the 3rd way assholes, for a start. arcane1 Feb 2016 #14
Well said. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #77
Thanks. Naturally, they ran away from my question. They all run from that one n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #85
It's yet another FUD tactic Aerows Feb 2016 #87
At least they believe in recycling. arcane1 Feb 2016 #88
I'd say they are pretty green. Aerows Feb 2016 #89
I've asked that same question at least a dozen times LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #46
They haven't distributed that memo yet. arcane1 Feb 2016 #51
There is no answer that they CAN give LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #64
Meanwhile, reinstating Glass/Steagall has bipartisan support in congress. arcane1 Feb 2016 #66
Here's how it works... thesquanderer Feb 2016 #83
I've said that. She'll prove she can work across the isle by compromising WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #86
you think hill would have better luck?? bowens43 Feb 2016 #2
I am asking about Bernie's Plan B FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #4
So only Bernie has to answer this question huh? liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #73
From what I hear from Hillary she isn't even going to try madokie Feb 2016 #38
I'm asking a reasonable question... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #41
Whats not reasonable madokie Feb 2016 #47
Voting for him on what he says he is going to do --- sorry jwirr Feb 2016 #81
Plan B is "keep trying." Maedhros Feb 2016 #5
So Sanders is running on a Revolution that may not happen, FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #9
I like the keep trying attitude Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #45
If you have a better plan B, I'd love to hear it n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #48
Well, if you'd lay off the polemics for a second and listen to what the man is saying, Maedhros Feb 2016 #84
What's Hillary's Plan A? Kall Feb 2016 #6
Save FrenchieCat some typing ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #11
Damn- this thread got more Hillary mentions than mine did. Wow. bettyellen Feb 2016 #75
Rather than "grand promises," think of them as Ron Green Feb 2016 #7
Bernie Sanders states specifically what he wants to do as President, FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #12
The error in your thinking is right here. jeff47 Feb 2016 #34
So Plan A is not to pass any legislation during 2-4 Years of a Sanders administration. FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #42
No. jeff47 Feb 2016 #44
With this post, you have proven that you aren't honestly looking for an answer. arcane1 Feb 2016 #50
Plan A is to propose the required legislation. Plan B is to mobilize the electorite to call write Vincardog Feb 2016 #52
If Hillary won the 2008 primary, and voter turnout is down from then, and she's lost this time... cascadiance Feb 2016 #8
This thread is not about Hillary Clinton.....sorry! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #17
That's like asking what the U.S. will do about climate change and saying China doesn't matter... cascadiance Feb 2016 #54
Nope, it is a "what if Bernie wins" thread. Unless he is giving Hillary a big job, she does not bettyellen Feb 2016 #76
I think your goal is to paint a scenario where there's a no-win situation where he can't succeed... cascadiance Feb 2016 #80
actually this reply is pretty awesome, thank you! sometimes you have to take a gamble and trust bettyellen Feb 2016 #82
Well, if we have a president to veto TPP and other trade agreements... cascadiance Feb 2016 #90
True! Although as Hillary has seen, it is not easy stumping about the horrid shit you won't do! bettyellen Feb 2016 #91
If the people cannot be heard with a ballot... DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #10
This thread is going to be all about Hillary Clinton.... nt betsuni Feb 2016 #13
Another attack tarted up as a faux question. cali Feb 2016 #15
Yup. nt artislife Feb 2016 #18
The question is not an attack.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #20
Watch this artislife Feb 2016 #16
The 2010 gerrymandering was done tight as a whistle... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #24
Then Hillary loses. artislife Feb 2016 #26
Gerrymandering affects House and state races.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #31
In whose mind is that a FACT? artislife Feb 2016 #33
You don't have to believe Facts.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #43
Tell me the next time that Hillary comes here to Portland in front of a crowd of 28,000+ people! cascadiance Feb 2016 #61
What's Hillary's plan, period? pinebox Feb 2016 #19
Sigh FrenchieCat....... jehop61 Feb 2016 #21
You won't have to worry...We real progressives will do the work TheProgressive Feb 2016 #22
Bernie recieved 50k more votes than Obama in '08.....so....i don't get this talking point Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #23
I'm looking at overall votes split between the Democrats and the Republicans FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #27
Except you're also ignoring that there are more registered Republicans in NH jeff47 Feb 2016 #37
I am listing the results of the General Election in 2008 and 2012. FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #49
No, you are listing a small subset of the result, and leaving out the ones jeff47 Feb 2016 #53
Seems like Bernie did his job. Shouldn't Hillary have turned out more folks? Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #65
Same as plan A: democratic economy/political democracy. Gregorian Feb 2016 #25
So there is no plan B.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #28
This question can be asked of both candidates. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #29
No Plan B is necessary. bvar22 Feb 2016 #30
I understand your answer.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #36
If not this year, then next year. bvar22 Feb 2016 #57
Doesn't it suck how, when you're the Establishment, all that 'freeze' stuff stops working for you? Shandris Feb 2016 #32
Veto every piece of legislation* sent to him by the fascists, nationalize KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #35
That plan does not give us any of the policies he's promising.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #39
He's promising he'd work for them, not that he'd deliver them himself... cascadiance Feb 2016 #56
True. Short of dissolving the Congress (something I would not KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #70
K&R sheshe2 Feb 2016 #40
Plan B is Hillary's plan A azmom Feb 2016 #55
Sorry, Bernie Sanders. There is zero evidence of your ‘political revolution’ yet Gothmog Feb 2016 #58
Get clobbered nationwide. nt arely staircase Feb 2016 #59
In the absence of removing the Republican majorities in Congress, no Democratic LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #60
I am going to try and answer this just MY point of view demosocialist Feb 2016 #62
Bernie is not a miracle worker. Vinca Feb 2016 #63
Use the Bully Pulpit to constantly shame the GOP and incite voter rage against them. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #67
k&r DesertRat Feb 2016 #68
The only thing a populist can do jeepers Feb 2016 #69
Plan B is to keep fighting the good fight he has fought his entire life. mhatrw Feb 2016 #71
great post! liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #72
Kindly... 99Forever Feb 2016 #74
There is no plan "b" mikehiggins Feb 2016 #78
Bernie Sanders’ “Revolution” Isn’t Good Enough Gothmog Feb 2016 #79
There is no plan B and plan A is strictly a fantasy workinclasszero Feb 2016 #92
LOL SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #93
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