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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders is going to have to speak on more issues affecting black people. [View all]JustAnotherGen
(32,973 posts)122. He needs to tell us the middle point plan
From the cities -
In addition to the physical violence faced by too many in our country we need to look at the lives of black children and address some difficult facts. Black children, who make up just 18 percent of preschoolers, account for 48 percent of all out-of-school suspensions before kindergarten. We are failing our black children before kindergarten. Black students are expelled at three times the rate of white students. Black girls are suspended at higher rates than all other girls and most boys. According to the Department of Education, African-American students are more likely to suffer harsh punishments suspensions and arrests at school. Black students attend schools with higher concentrations of first-year teachers when compared with white students. Black students are more than three times as likely to attend schools where fewer than 60 percent of teachers meet all state certification and licensure requirements.
So he sees the issues we have from pre to high school.
Now this -
Communities of color also face the violence of economic deprivation. Lets be frank: neighborhoods like those in west Baltimore, where Freddie Gray resided, suffer the most. However, the problem of economic immobility isnt just a problem for young men like Freddie Gray. Despite hard-work and the will to get ahead, millions of Americans spend their entire lives struggling to survive on the economic treadmill.
He then speaks to the mortgage crisis. However, he doesn't address why these were neighborhoods tat were accessible to black people. IE FDR's housing administration which assisted with the expansion of Mr. Crow's segregation.
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et us not forget: It was the greed, recklessness and illegal behavior on Wall Street that nearly drove the economy off of a cliff seven years ago. While millions of Americans lost their jobs, homes, life savings and ability to send their kids to college, African-Americans who were steered into expensive subprime mortgages were the hardest hit.
I don't disagree with who was the hardest hit - but Wall Street merely took advantage of a situation that George Romney lost his job for pointing out during the Nixon Administration. Wall Street is no different than the share cropping farmer - the laws were present to allow the abuse. They were just trying to make a buck off of a group's misery - and the racism at the core of what America is allowed the laws (or lack thereof) in he first place.
Then -
ADDRESSING ECONOMIC VIOLENCE
We need to give our children, regardless of their race or income, a fair shot at attending college. Thats why all public universities should be made tuition free. We should pay for that with a tax on Wall Street speculators.
How does he prepare these kids? September 2017? He points out that from pre School on black children are at an unfair disadvantage. What specifically happens - what is the plan to shore up our pre, elementary, middle and high schools? Is it a money grab from middle class and wealthy districts to provide economic parity? What if NJ does it without Fed Gov - how does he got to the future legislators in Trenton and get them to legislate - We are grabbing property tax dollars from the town because D.C says we have to give money to Biloxi. To offset this loss we are raising your personal income taxes and and property taxes even more. We are instituting a sales tax on clothing purchases. Your Federal Tax dollars are not enough. Sorry folks in Camden and Newsrk - we realize you are struggling under our cost of living but you now make $20 an hour, you are now Rich according to Fed Gov and so your small gain must now be sent out of state.
I know those assholes in Trenton will do it just like that. :
We must invest $5.5 billion to create 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans who face high unemployment rates and job-training opportunities for hundreds of thousands of young adults. We should pay for that by ending the loophole allowing Wall Street hedge fund managers to pay a lower tax rate than nurses or truck drivers.
I don't disagree with closing the loophole - but will those job training opportunities be part of the free college plan - or would he allow my state to keep more tax revenue to implement a BOCES program in par with New York's (the one in place in the 80's and 90's). Could we do that first? Before we implement free college - can we first address the needs in public high schools? The ones that have been neglected? The ones still being marginalized by a Housing Policy implemented in 1934 whose impact is felt on our inner cities today?
We must increase the minimum wage to a livable wage of $15 an hour by 2020 which will increase the wages of about half of African-Americans and nearly 60 percent of Latinos
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Business owners in high cost of living states need tax breaks as they move towards the higher minimum wage model because it needs to be at least $20 in NJ, NY, CA etc etc. The better jobs are centered around major cities with office complex bordering the burbs. We cheated ourselves out of a solid public transportation system. So those black folks in the inner cities will need access to those jobs. There's two ways - car purchase. Or live close enough to the city to take public transport. Either way - renting an apartment or paying for a vehicle is going to eat out of the $20 very quickly in my state. $20 minimum wage needs to be subsidized for small business owners in wealthy states.
We must invest $1 trillion to put 13 million Americans to work rebuilding our crumbling cities, roads, bridges, public transportation systems, airports, drinking water systems and other infrastructure needs. We should pay for that by closing offshore tax loopholes.
We must pass federal legislation to ensure pay equity for women.
We must prevent employers from discriminating against applicants based on criminal history by banning the box.
We must promote policies to give the formerly incarcerated an opportunity for education, including expanding the Second Chance Pell Pilot Program and reentry programs.
We need to ensure access to quality affordable childcare for working families, especially for parents who work non-traditional hours.
We must fundamentally re-write our trade policies and rebuild factories that were closed as a result of bad trade deals
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We must pass federal legislation to ensure pay equity for women.
We must prevent employers from discriminating against applicants based on criminal history by banning the box.
We must promote policies to give the formerly incarcerated an opportunity for education, including expanding the Second Chance Pell Pilot Program and reentry programs.
We need to ensure access to quality affordable childcare for working families, especially for parents who work non-traditional hours.
We must fundamentally re-write our trade policies and rebuild factories that were closed as a result of bad trade deals
He should drop the last section I excerpted and speak to the mid way.
What is in between free college and pre school. Nothing addresses that 34 years that put black people into redlined communities. Then address that vocational training. Can he state - will his long term supporters support -
Vocational Training. September 2017 every under Performing inner city school district will have HVAC certification, Solar Panel certification (younger nephew paying $20 K in tandem with attending Rutgers on academic scholarship so I know the cost), soldering, CNC lathe, industrial welding etc etc. We will pay for it for a Federal Tax across the board regardless of your income or wealth Level because we as a country must "repair" what was broken during the New Deal which really was designed to benefit only white Americans.
I'm not letting Clinton off the hook either. However you linked to Senator Sanders site so that is what I addressed.
There is 13 years of education missing in his racial justice plan and he's letting middle class white Americans 50 and older off the hook. They shouldn't be.
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Bernie Sanders is going to have to speak on more issues affecting black people. [View all]
JRLeft
Feb 2016
OP
He has to explain how his plan will help black and not leave us out in the cold, because
JRLeft
Feb 2016
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Drake's father is from Memphis, so he has dual citizenship but he grew up Jewish in Canada.
JRLeft
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#146
Drake spends more time in the states than Canada. His father is a blues musician
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#149
If Bernie makes inroads into Hillary's lead Bill cannot denigrate black people for it.
JRLeft
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#171
lol. good catch. I decided to address content but, you are correct in pointing out the
Hiraeth
Feb 2016
#136
+1 ... They just can't help themselves, even when talking to fellow supporters.
1StrongBlackMan
Feb 2016
#188
Because if I did ... I wouldn't get to see when you prove that my perception is accurate. eom.
1StrongBlackMan
Feb 2016
#206
A bit of everything, really, from the folks I've been listening to.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2016
#127
The "Why are you upset?" line is so overused when discussing PoC topics.
TheBlackAdder
Feb 2016
#117
Yep. It's adorable when they believe their argument is won with "You mad, bro?".
SMC22307
Feb 2016
#239
Sanders lost IA PoC by 25% after spending 3 months campaigning there, he might be reaching out
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#12
Bernie was the only 1 to mention institutional racism and the people in prison tonight.
onecaliberal
Feb 2016
#13
It doesn't matter black people are wary of people who tell them what they want to hear and then tune
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#18
Then please explain why they're so pro-Hillary, panderer and opportunist that she is.
SMC22307
Feb 2016
#23
She's my sister too. But don't you worry, she can take care of herself! nt
thereismore
Feb 2016
#208
Yes, not only a relationship but by proxy an endorsement by Obama which she smartly clings to while
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#74
I don't see how Sanders is better on any issues, not one... he constantly dismisses the effects of..
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#84
He's better because Obama had to pay back people who donated to his campaign big pharma, Wall
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#86
Sanders has taken money from banks, corporations etc... Again, he can't throw ONE STONE...
uponit7771
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#93
Hopefully Hillary, She can take there 2 million and spend it against trump but its 2 million
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#99
I believe Hillary will be the nominee, but a lot of voters will stay home Trump, has a
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#102
Statistically Sanders numbers in mostly white states are the same as HRCs in 08 so I don't think
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#130
No question about that! Regarding swings, Bernie is not after them at all. With what? Democratic
thereismore
Feb 2016
#219
The 90s was very very positive for PoC in America, I think whites miss this....
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#132
It was better than the 80's, but it was an illusion. A tech bubble, a deregulated economy that sent.
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#150
Economically blacks were NOT decimated by Clinton policies of raising capital from the rich....
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#183
They didn't do a big fat nothing last time so yes, just based off the AA community prospertity durin
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#97
Yet that voter will be denigrated as "low info" here by people who were never aware before
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#214
A. He didn't endorse her even by proxy. He's said nice things about both of them.
Fawke Em
Feb 2016
#218
The "your long time friend associate sucks hang with me" slogan isn't a good campaign tactic...
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#71
That's a lot of it. As a white guy, I get where you're coming from. But you need to understand that
thereismore
Feb 2016
#209
Hillary is benefiting from her association with Bill. They both figured out that
thereismore
Feb 2016
#231
It doesn't have to make sense, and it doesn't matter why they're supporting her.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2016
#129
the only reason it doesn't make sense is when people discount that others have different experiences
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#215
Criminal justice inequality, black people go to jail for shit white people get to skate on.
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#22
+1000. My face gets flushed thinking about this. There is no excuse for this country to be like
JudyM
Feb 2016
#60
He still has to speak to our plight, and not in the same way he did in Iowa or New Hampshire.
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#24
Especially since Bill Clinton had a hand in expanding the prison complex during the 90s
davidn3600
Feb 2016
#44
I'm white so I won't pretend to understand the issues affecting black people...
white_wolf
Feb 2016
#39
Ask what can I do change the system, ask what can you do to eradicate a system which is
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#63
I feel we'll be blamed if this doesn't work out for Sanders and many Sanders supporters will
uponit7771
Feb 2016
#77
Is MORE mind boggling that what people "feel" about Clintons resume trumps reality...
uponit7771
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#179
Yes, it's not up to other people to blame the marginalized for not voting for the dominates person..
uponit7771
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#180
Sanders lost IA PoC by 25% after spending 3 months campaigning there, he might be reaching out
uponit7771
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#76
I'm not buying it Bernie Sanders is doing fine his popularity is growing exponentially with all POC.
Snotcicles
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#65
He wants to provide universal health care, double the minimum wage, provide tuition free
tularetom
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#80
So you are saying that don't understand him? I doubt that is what you mean but that is what we are.
Live and Learn
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#173
Then they don't agree with reducing prison populations, free education, getting rid of private
Live and Learn
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#229
Same here. I don't know anyone that thinks they have a personal freindship or relationship with
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#248
He will. He has been picking up some great endorsements - Ben Jealous was one. I heard that he
jillan
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Oh wow - that would be amazing. I feel with Ben Jealous coming out and supporting Bernie
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Bernie is the only candidate who has said "the drug war is a failed policy"
Warren DeMontague
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#115
Trust me, black people "hear" with their ears just like white people. This OP is disgustingly racist
Hiraeth
Feb 2016
#137
Somehow economic inequality doesn't affect the lives of black people.
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2016
#134
Really. Of course you don't recall. No prob. Ignore. Issue resolved. Moving on.
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Feb 2016
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m-lekktor
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LOL, never in the history of the English language has "forward together" ever been used.
SMC22307
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Listen to his reasoning on why he doesn't believe " Retribution " would work, his policies lifting
orpupilofnature57
Feb 2016
#226