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Gothmog

(145,107 posts)
23. Why Bernie Sanders isn’t going to be president, in five words
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:49 AM
Feb 2016

The attack ads from this appearance on Meet the Press write themselves https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/12/why-bernie-sanders-isnt-going-to-be-president-in-5-words/

Meet the Press ✔ @meetthepress
CHUCK TODD: Are you a capitalist?@BernieSanders: No. I'm a Democratic Socialist.
8:33 AM - 11 Oct 2015

And, in those five words, Sanders showed why — no matter how much energy there is for him on the liberal left — he isn't getting elected president.

Why? Because Democrat or Republican (or independent), capitalism remains a pretty popular concept — especially when compared to socialism. A 2011 Pew Research Center survey showed that 50 percent of people had a favorable view of capitalism, while 40 percent had an unfavorable one. Of socialism, just three in 10 had a positive opinion, while 61 percent saw it in a negative light.

Wrote Pew in a memo analyzing the results:

Of these terms, socialism is the more politically polarizing — the reaction is almost universally negative among conservatives, while generally positive among liberals. While there are substantial differences in how liberals and conservatives think of capitalism, the gaps are far narrower.

...The simple political fact is that if Sanders did ever manage to win the Democratic presidential nomination — a long shot but far from a no shot at this point — Republicans would simply clip Sanders's answer to Todd above and put it in a 30-second TV ad. That would, almost certainly, be the end of Sanders's viability in a general election.

Americans might be increasingly aware of the economic inequality in the country and increasingly suspicious of so-called vulture capitalism — all of which has helped fuel Sanders's rise. But we are not electing someone who is an avowed socialist to the nation's top political job. Just ain't happening.

You can try to argue that the two terms are not the same but that will not stop the Kochs from running $200 milion to $300 million using that term in negative ads that would be very effective.
Why has he called himself a Socialist? redstateblues Feb 2016 #1
He has defined it as democratic socialism... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #2
They know the answer HassleCat Feb 2016 #4
words DO have meaning EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #6
As a democratic socialist for 35 years HassleCat Feb 2016 #9
The vice president of the Democratic Socialist of America EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #12
Oh, is that why we endorsed him? HassleCat Feb 2016 #16
Youre confused EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #17
Thanks. I'll fix that. HassleCat Feb 2016 #18
they know. and don't care. just another attempt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #11
they know Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #7
To quote the vice-chair of the Democratic Socialists of America. EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #5
Thank you, EdwardBernays... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #13
He is a Social Democrat. It is very clear. yodermon Feb 2016 #3
+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #10
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Juliet in Romeo and Juliet. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #8
OCT 11 2015, 11:50 AM ET Meet the Press Transcript - October 11, 2015 Gothmog Feb 2016 #14
Democratic Socialists aren't socialists EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #15
Why Bernie Sanders isn’t going to be president, in five words Gothmog Feb 2016 #23
Drop him in water if he floats he's a socialist Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #19
Nor does he believe in dialectical materialism Recursion Feb 2016 #20
it's such an insane argument anyway-- as if "socialist" is such a naughty, dirty thing Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #21
There are lots of Socialisms. According to Richard Wolff, the definition is continually changing. Gregorian Feb 2016 #22
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